Kakarot posted:

TheAgent posted:

because gently caress why not

quote this post with your five best predictions of tomorrows live stream, whoever is most accurate wins wither a copy of elite dangerous or planet coaster or a steam game of equivalent or a donation to some loving charity because its christmas you stupid game addicted nerds

mdxi posted:

Posting on the 5th (6th?) page 128, because powers of 2 scale better for special-ness than multiples of 100.

GLORY TO THE STIMPIRE! TORMENT ETERNIZATION FOR ALL GOONIES!

CrazyTolradi posted:

Star Citizen: Who put that crap in there?

EDIT: Catte tax

Beet Wagon posted:

Daz reminded me I haven't been fulfilling my obligation to the thread haha.

Kayak went hiking today and couldn't handle being on a platform over a waterfall, it was awesome.

Hopefully this works, the Awful app is in fact awful.

e: there we go that should fix it

ewe2 posted:

Sorry in advance for this rant, I just wanted to make it clear as clear why there are problems with CIGs/Parrys "explanation". Please point out mistakes or confusions/omissions.

Just managing the pieces of a website in git can teach you a lot about how VCS actually works and not how Ben Parry wants you to believe, like just skipping main development line history. Good VCS patterns are about minimising merge conflict and small, manageable deltas, regardless of the size of the project.

Let me break it down into a hypothetical, the kind of hypothetical that the Reddit crowd hates because they'd have to apply braincells to it, and let's pretend we're using git because its an excellent distributed VCS that lets you decide how to manage your workflow:

You've got engine code, it's made up of different bits that different groups of developers can work on, and like a good game company you want to make modifications to make the greatest game ever and you want builds to work so you can demonstrate how things are going (you know, not like SC). There will be a bunch of stuff that doesn't use the engine at all, ignore that in this discussion, it would be added at the build branch stage to make a build work and then get added to the main branch. Here we're only concerned with bits that need the engine code.

Ideally we'll have a development branch, a build branch and a main branch. You're the guy coordinating this because your developers are all working on their bits of the engine and when they put in changes, you make sure all the different bits agree and you take a snapshot of the current development branch and call that the build branch (and add those bits I mentioned above), and if it builds, those changes make it into the main branch. Clear so far? You can give these snapshots whatever name/version you like as long as it makes sense to everyone.

Ok, so down the track your builds are going fine but meanwhile the engine developer has released a new version of the engine and you want to take advantage. So you grab the new engine code, and to be safe, you clone a new copy of the original engine code and you do a merge to see what the changes are and make a diff from that. You now literally have what changed between engine versions. Well, like you would expect with a new engine version, they've changed the API you use to access its code and they've restructured its different bits quite a bit, there are new bits, older bits have gone. You do the same technique as before, comparing your current main branch (NOT the development branch, guess why) to the code and oh dear there'll be merge conflicts everywhere, the engine is quite different. What to do?

At this point we are up to BEFORE the LY fork, at 3.8 whatever version. We can break the task down: some bits can be easily discarded, some bits will be added, but there'll be a chunk that will have to be integrated piece by piece preferably along structural lines and meanwhile you have to educate the developers who can't continue along the lines of continuous development/builds until these changes are made. You have to educate the developers on the changes to the API, you have to reassign developers to the bits that are changed/new, and you may have to take a deep breath and throw a lot of good code away simply because you don't have the time or resources to rebase everything. "Rebase" sounds simple but only works if your modifications are only in the parts of the new code that didn't change, and in the case of an engine only some of that will be true.

Ideally, you can give some developers the freedom to rebase their own development work on the new engine code, but in some cases you'll have to do the work yourself and get them to clone from that. And THEN it's back to making the builds work, having "rebased" on the new code and then you've got a main branch which is a fork off the engine code.

And THEN you have the LY fork. Take the above scenario and repeat, unless you're prepared to simply throw away all the previous work. Unless the LY fork is amazingly compatible which I do not believe for a second.

I want to point out that as far as I understand, game development is rarely this organized or as careful. An object hierarchy is fine for business software development but usually only gets as far as the UI and maybe file operations but everything else is written pedal to the metal good old functional programming and that is a dog to manage even with the help of a VCS. The whole point of object orientation was to make large projects even feasible but that breaks down with the way games work which do multiple things at the same time like a mini-OS, it's that complex.

So when Ben Parry tries to tell me that it was easy I'm just dumbfounded. Because he should know better. And this discussion is only applicable to if they did it as he claims, ripptide might be closer to the truth.

Kosumo posted:

You are Goons; What would you do?

You are driving down the information highway in your shopping trolly when you round a corner to find a truck that was moving old tires as roll over and the tires have all caught on fire.

Do you -

A - Get out of your trolly and proceed to make a circle around it while all holding hands and singing Goon-di-ya.

B - Photoshop some orphans onto it.

C - Hop out of the trolly and proceed to lie on the ground in comedic homosexual poses while claiming to be dead.

D - Go to doxx the fire only to be reminded by Fyad to "Don't Do what Derek Does!".

E - Claim this is surly the end of CiG.

F - Yell at the fire and tell it it is poo poo and that's not a meltdown, you want to see a real meltdown, you need to see Branson.

G - Inform the fire that we are glad that it's family is dead and then start to toast some bread on it.

H - Give it and tell everyone you would pet.

I - Attempt to jump it in the shopping trolly ..... backwards ..... while doing a flip ..... and debating the finer points of cooking in cast iorn frying pans.

J - Get pgabz to edit the config file and then just clip though it.

K - Tane.

L - None of the above or anything else even, ever.

This 'You are Goons; What would you do?' Is made possible by your catte tax. Always pay your catte tax - helping make the BDGSE.

Thank you.

TheLastRoboKy posted:

Thanks to certain circumstances and pressures a dwarf can "tantrum" which is probably closer to being described as "going loving berserk and trashing everything and everyone nearby". A tantrum spiral is where the damage wrought by an angry dwarf causes other dwarves to start throwing tantrums who in turn do damage that causes other dwarves to tantrum and so on until your entire fortress is just hosed beyond recovery.

I just made the natural connection that if you put dwarves in space there would be an inevitable moment where a tantrum spiral on a space colony causes said colony to be dropped on the planet.

Ghostlight posted:

Spacebase DF-9 already happened and failed.

Chalks posted:

Try rimworld, it's almost exactly this and it's really very good

redwalrus posted:

That book is amazing, I even felt inspired to start my own...

Thoatse posted:

At least they Archer'd the chair..

Beet Wagon posted:

Besides, everyone knows Toast is wiley. While Crobberts is trying and failing to wring one more dollar out of the golden goose I bet our friend MoMA here is going to be heading out the back with a $20,000 espresso maker.

MeLKoR posted:

Derek Smart's neural AI is already smarter than a whale.

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Honestly I'm kind of surprised with all the creepy stalkers Derek attracts they still don't manage to dig up any real, legit dirt on him. Whining about him having a mortgage is just weird

Spermanent Record posted:

Well, I mean, nobody likes mortgages, besides banks.

cool new Polack jokes posted:

For anyone who doesn't get it, Star Citizen is so broken at the conceptual level that the motherfucking Zybourne Clock is a more thought out premise, and is starting to look like a more worthy recipient of $142M. Think of all the Wikis you could start with that kind of dough.

Asema posted:

Rez was literally just pushed to VR on the PC and it pretty much instantly joins Superhot and To The Top as must have VR games.

no_recall posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6veBz299dw

Final Fantasy : Sky Citizen

Thoatse posted:

You can read even more about it in his Jew lie blog

Mr.Tophat posted:

Misato

Mr.Tophat posted:

lmao

reddit war-room

"We cannot underestimate our enemy, they are experts at this kind of warfare. We must be prepared for them, we must resist!"

some thread in SA

"goku"

Mr.Tophat posted:

Neat. Reminds me I need to play some more DBZ Xenoverse. My character is a Namekin called "Gogarot" and I love him very much.

Anyone got any music recommendations for cleaning a home? I've got to spring into action like, an hour ago. Could do with some motivation.

StarbloodKiss posted:

christo roberto, if youre reading this...this is real fidelity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIr0icfALJk

can you use prank props as deadly weapons in sc? I think not

Mr.Tophat posted:

Strong answer, powerfully strong, so strong it might change my answer

but I know I could get slam drunk with Misato and discuss the greatest anime, crowboy beeblap, so

Mr.Tophat posted:

What do you think is on a namekian's head? Antenna?

Pu-lease

Mr.Tophat posted:

So you're saying I should two time? Gotcha, ice cold man, as ice cold as the beers I'd knock back with Misato and as ice cold as Gendo pulling the trigger

Mr.Tophat posted:

So you're saying I should two time? Gotcha, ice cold man, as ice cold as the beers I'd knock back with Misato and as ice cold as Gendo pulling the trigger

Young Freud posted:

But Misato won't do anal, while Ritsuko will do anything if you got a neckbeard.

Mr.Tophat posted:

Whoah buddy, love triangles work, love squares, how shall I put it

ah, yes

n the words of my marriage councilor, 'that's no good'

Mr.Tophat posted:

Sounds like your counselor was telling you to get supplies for a disaster zone





checks out

McGiggins posted:

So dereks ele was as flacid as usual?

derk. you're making me look bad to my nongoon friends.

how can I sing the song of the warlord when the prophecy is wrong?

Mu77ley posted:

Not sure where they law stands with regards to signing away your IP in a loan deal and then trying to move it out of the company to rip off the bank though (if that is indeed what they are doing).

Ayn Marx posted:

My man these people don't exist hope this helps

Tippis posted:

But has he yet to reveal his true form?

Beet Wagon posted:

One little hurricane and everybody decides this is just an anime thread now?

Wuxi posted:

I don't want you to die in a hurricane, but anime is good.

Mr.Tophat posted:

Get in the everclear shinji