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POOL IS CLOSED: Jul 14, 2011; I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.; Pillbug

Xarbala posted:

I had genuinely forgotten to check in after the last thread was closed

feel about right for star citizen

Opposite of bad things which will never get past vaporware, I had a pretty interesting beer recently -- Hitachino Nest's 3 DAYS. the story behind it is pretty interesting; the earthquake that stuck Japan on 3/11/2011 also damaged the company's brewery and they lost power. So a recent mash got to do its thing in tilted casks for 3 days and developed a spontaneous fermentation. It was supposed to be a witbeer, but to me it's much more like a Flemish red ale sour, kinda like Duchesse du Bourgogne. It's cool that the brewers managed to not only save the beer from the brink of disaster, but turn it into something special. There were only 8,000 bottles, and the local distributors finally picked some up, so I am enjoying it along with a nice tabbouleh and kale salad plus turkey bone gumbo.

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# ¿ Jul 15, 2025 08:34

POOL IS CLOSED: Jul 14, 2011; I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.; Pillbug

LorneReams posted:

Just wanted to say I had this beer last night. What a coincidence. I love Hitachino's poo poo though.

It's good stuff. And the label looks like what you'd see on like a 90s horror movie cassette cover.

Beet Wagon posted:

In the initial renders of the Retaliator the two rear turrets couldn't swivel 360 degrees without clipping through the giant vision-obscuring tailfins, not to mention the chin turret that had engine pods totally blocking it on both the left and right sides lol

God that ship was a disaster.

What about SC isn't a disaster, though? The only competently done part is separating fools from their money.

# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 03:54

POOL IS CLOSED: Jul 14, 2011; I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.; Pillbug

Deez nuts don't need refactored

# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 05:21

POOL IS CLOSED: Jul 14, 2011; I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.; Pillbug

Oleyo posted:

OK, I have some black hole in my memory and I have to ask about it.

What is all this stuff about Sandy's favorite number? I thought the 42/towel was a known and open HHGG reference. Didn;t they mention it in early videos? Did they start denying this at some point? If so, why? I mean, who can say why CIG does anything, but what is really wrong with a HHGG reference like this? It couldn't possibly be a legal matter, just the number and a towel.

What am I missing here?

e: Accidentally typed SQ42 instead of HHGG initially, blech :P

Some posters put up a bunch of theorizing about that in the last thread. I think Derek did a longer write-up, but I doubt it made it to the blog. :allears:

IIRC the consensus was that it is some sort of numerology thing with her, but also serves as a stupid HHGG reference in the old nerd shibboleth style.

# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 18:07

POOL IS CLOSED: Jul 14, 2011; I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.; Pillbug

I.N.R.I posted:

I'll read all these 10000 word long posts later. in the mean time, I want to remind everyone to call or visit their parents wherever possible. They raised you with love and care and would like to hear about the things you're getting up to in life

Have you called your family lately, INRI? You've been busy helping us be better people, but don't neglect your own happiness! And make sure you drink enough water.

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Not even gay people, just the possibility that somebody could play as a gay dude with the same name and in the same game as my perfectly straight Shepard is literally Hitler stuff

I don't even quite understand why people get up in arms about there being queer characters and characters of color and women characters and etc. Why does this bother them? Why does there need to be some plot-specific reason for all the characters to not be heterosexual, hypertrophied Teutonic demigods in homosocial settings? Do all the characters need to be attractive to the player? ...

# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 18:37

POOL IS CLOSED: Jul 14, 2011; I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.; Pillbug

Eldragon posted:

Every time Bioware does a homosexual character its always tacked on and doesn't actually add to the character; Like Bioware is going through a multiculturalism checklist before release to keep the angry bloggers happy. But now that I criticized Bioware that makes me a homophobe.

But I still don't get it. What does a character's sexuality add in general? It's probably going to be there, even if there's not a romance subplot, if it's a character at least part of the audience can identify with. So what does being straight or asexual add to a character that other sexualities don't? Why stick to that as a point of critique? I can understand if you say they actually just handle writing queer characters badly. Like instead of making this character a real part of the cast, they have no actual role in the story at all and they're just here to pipe in at bad moments "hello, fellow gays." I've never really felt that way about Bioware's smattering of LGB characters, but perhaps others do. (I've had other issues with Bioware's characters, but not that particular issue.)

I doubt SC is going to do much to move beyond the 90s Duke Nukem status quo since they haven't even managed an actual goddamn character creator last I checked, so I suppose the loudest part of CIG's playerbase will be satisfied by having fewer options. Playing undifferentiated, shaved ubermenschen is fidelitous as gently caress in this deskeletonized citizen's Stimpire.

The Titanic posted:

This is a very disappointing outlook to have.

I hope some day people will be accepting that "happiness" is arbitrary and what makes different people happy may not fit into your personal narrative of what should be. So long as it's not something like murder or something that makes you happy. Try to keep it nice happiness.

People who are embittered by other people having a shot at contentment and representation mystify me.

PlaneGuy posted:

I think it was a HHGG reference in the old nerd shibboleth style that someone at CIG convinced Sandi was a powerful numerologic integer and he's been enjoying the epic troll ever since.

This would be extremely good.

e.

Hopper posted:

I think it comes down to 2 things:
1) Insecurity. Anybody who is secure in their ways will basically have an "whatever makes you happy" attitude to gayness
2) sense of "entitlement" in terms of "I bought this game to do whatever I want in my fantasy world, and I have a very precise idea what that means, and it does not include items 1 to 56, because MUH IMMERSHUN!" And item 10 on that list happens to be "gays"

Coincidentally, 2 is also why the spergs currently fuel this dumpster fire, because Roberts is making them believe the game will be EXACTLY what they want. Those who realize it won't be... feel grief.
And as soon as the game reaches a "final" state, i.e. when there is no two ways about what it does offer and what not, that's when 2 will come into effect and the feeling for grief will multiply every second. Funding will stop, and *desire_to_post_death_threats_intensifies.gif*.

Fortunately, this game will never, ever exit development, and so its devotees will never be able to examine it for violations of the List of 56 Violations of Versimilitude.

POOL IS CLOSED fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Dec 7, 2016

# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 20:15

POOL IS CLOSED: Jul 14, 2011; I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.; Pillbug

Nicholas posted:

I thought that you could convince any bioware NPC to sleep with you and they were only gay by virtue of the gender you chose initially.

Nah, some are set up as straight and some as bi, I'm pretty sure. That might have changed in more recent titles, though?

# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 20:51

POOL IS CLOSED: Jul 14, 2011; I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.; Pillbug

Sunswipe posted:

Haven't played many Bioware games, but from what I remember: KotOR didn't have gay characters (don't know if that's a choice by them or a condition of the license). Mass Effect 1's two human romance options were straight, although either gender could romance the blue alien chick. Mass Effect 2 had a few lesbian options. If I was a cynic, I'd say it's because of a fear that the average gamer might find two men going at it distasteful, but would be fine with two women making the beast with two clits. And I am a cynic, so that's what I think.

ME1's options were straight, excepting the two spots where you can uh "romance" the asari (one consort, one party member) with Shephards of either sex.

ME2's options were straight Sheps & lesbian/bisexual lady Sheps. I thought male Shepards could romance Thane (the green alien bro), but apparently I was misremembering this because the wiki says he's an option only for ladies. (Disclosure: I totally hated romance in ME2, somehow my Shepard got date-raped by Jack and it was the worst. I don't know how I blundered into an affair with the skinhead option.) Anyway, I'm pretty sure your cynical take is the correct take.

# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 21:39

POOL IS CLOSED: Jul 14, 2011; I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.; Pillbug

I've got PWO brain now, so expect even dumber poo poo from me than usual. I also think I missed an Eldragon response to one of my earlier posts? Sorry, man, I can't find it and I'm sorta braindead right now. I'll be happy to chat with you over PMs if you've got plat.

Sunswipe posted:

If I ever replay that, I'm totally going for a Jack romance. Can't for the life of me remember why I went with Tali. Scary skinhead chick gonna team up with my butt-ugly Shepard to save the galaxy! Woo hoo!

I did my best to make my Shep look like Reno from Leon: The Professional. Having a crying girl with a fashy cut come at my digital donger was still one of the most frightening moments in gaming for me.

The Titanic posted:

I don't want to get too in depth here because my opinion may not be too popular. But I feel like lesbian is easier for a guy to take in entertainment than it is in real life. Fake relationships are also easy, and guys tend to enjoy two girls going at it like crazy. But if you go beyond "making the beast with two clits" there is a nice drop off of acceptance, understanding, and compassion. The amount of "I'm just experimenting" and "I'm doing it to make my ___ jealous." Is a lot too, and that can be rather heartbreaking at times as well. But that's another topic for another time with lots of tears and drinks! Definitely not for the Star Citizen thread of successful game management techniques!

I think it's a fair enough topic given the rest of our magnificent derails! Especially since it's something that touches on the CIG community one way or another. Having women in game who appeal to the loudest audience segment is a winning marketing strategy; having women who don't appeal to that segment but do appeal to other, quieter segments has less obvious appeal from their marketing dept's perspective. (Whoever makes up their marketing dept now, be it Sandi or an external contractor.)

# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 22:38

POOL IS CLOSED: Jul 14, 2011; I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.; Pillbug

TheAgent posted:

and even if its shoehorned in sometimes, I give bioware a golfclap for even including actually gay, man on man romances

down with the hetronormative patriarchy btw

But adding gay dudes is a slippery slope to 63 genders!

That's only 6 away from the funny sex number!!!

# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 22:41

POOL IS CLOSED: Jul 14, 2011; I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.; Pillbug

the most fabulous wine is lambrusco

i drink it while browsing jpegs

# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 22:44

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Tippis posted:

Philistine. At least browse TGAs.

how am i going to feel fabulous if i don't look at something as lowbrow as possible while drinking my fizzy booze

# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 22:46

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TheAgent posted:

no, prosecco is where its loving at if you want to get trashed and have a weird night experimenting with your best friend

that sounds like adventure, agent, and there's no adventure allowed in the stimpire

# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 22:47

POOL IS CLOSED: Jul 14, 2011; I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.; Pillbug

how many of those guys unironically describe themselves as incels

thinking about the community just gets me down, time to enjoy some bubbly

# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 22:49

POOL IS CLOSED: Jul 14, 2011; I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.; Pillbug

TheAgent posted:

look sometimes we go into the meatgrinder together but its not a sexual thing we just like to be spun around lots of huge manmeats that get into all of our orifices somehow, like any bros from the same frat would do

sounds like you got a tingler on your hands

TheAgent posted:

I had to explain what the incel community was right after the santa barbara attacks to a bunch of people at a bar while we were all slamming tequila shots

one girl said "they should like a bunch of closeted homosexuals" and I was like yea p much

that reminds me of some of the hilarious poo poo I heard after WHO redefined infertility (expanding the definition from failure to conceive after 12+ months of unprotected sex to include single men and women who want to have children but do not, which seems to be primarily a move to pressure the NHS to expand IVF accessibility). the funniest take i heard was that now all the incels will be classified as disabled and able to receive disability payments based on their inability to find romantic partners.

Ghostlight posted:

It's really only been in the last 100 years that it's changed from

two hot girls going at it: what the gently caress are you talking about how do girls have sex with each other they don't even have dicks you idiot

when i went to college in the late 00s, this was still a prevailing view. way too many people found out i was engaged to another woman and started asking me probing details about how women can even gently caress each other. i lost some friends. :sigh:

The Titanic posted:

I agree. Even if it's small and minor, or tacked on, at least they did it. I have no issues with it. Plus, it's not like any video game romance actually works good anyway. Unless it's the Sims. Because it's the Sims and they will do anything.

actually the original DA had a pretty interesting romance sideplot that i thought really added to the plot, but unfortunately i don't recall it being followed up in a satisfying way during the expansion, and i haven't played the sequels. my (female) PC romanced alistair, then morganna or w/e the witch in black's name was convinced my PC to ask alistair to knock the witch up with his gray warden baby, and poo poo got weird. it was pretty arthurian but i don't know if bioware ever did anything w/r/t a payoff in DA3.

# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 23:05

POOL IS CLOSED: Jul 14, 2011; I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.; Pillbug