Star Citizen: Death of a Space Thread?

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Redundant: Sep 24, 2011; Even robots have feelings!

Toops posted:

Did you play D:OS1? If so, is there anything in the game mechanics in 2 that differentiates?

lol listen to us, talking about game mechanics for an actual video game and not just dreaming up unfathomably complex fantasies about how awesome this video game's mechanics will be later, just as soon as it revolutionizes everything we thought we knew about what's possible.

To add on to what Bofast said there's mainly been a lot of stream lining. Some stats have been merged, AP is now a flat 4 as standard as opposed to being calculated by stats (that no longer exist), the way armour/barriers works was changed a lot and the way status effects/knockdowns work was pretty dramatically changed too. Nothing that really breaks up the core game play loop, just QoL changes that reduce the micromanagement required. From less of a direct game play perspective everything being voice acted is new too I think and their story telling has also come a long way, for a lot of D:OS1 I had no idea what I was doing or why I was doing it. They apparently fixed that in the Enhanced Edition but I never played much of that. There was also no "competitive co-op", it was just a standard party RPG for whatever that ends up being worth.

D:OS1 was a good game, D:OS2 feels like a pretty notable improvement across the board.

I can't believe that when I finally catch up my first post is about a different game and the thread is facing down the full force of the goon conquering 3.0. I guess the thread will die as it lived... rubbing.

# ¿ Oct 9, 2017 18:30

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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 18:45

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thatguy posted:

New leak from the guy who leaked the other stuff. Looks like he's successfully removed the watermark with a neato filter as well as blurred the names. This leads me to believe we should expect more/longer leaks in the future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-wMcs-2lbQ

Check the fidelity. Your move, goons :smug:

# ¿ Oct 9, 2017 19:25

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AP posted:

Countercounterpoint

I'm in Europe, have no clue what any of that means and have zero desire to learn.

Looks like somebody has spent too much time kneeling and is therefore scientifically predisposed to losing. That kind of attitude won't get you far in the 'verse.

# ¿ Oct 25, 2017 21:33

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Mirificus posted:

I always find it weird when people revel in their unpleasantness like it's some kind of badge of honour.

# ¿ Oct 30, 2017 17:18

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Mirificus posted:

Since reddit-bot didn't post a screenshot of the comment I assume it never actually happened. Confirm/Deny?

Citizens making up stories about "even goons" mocking Derek for this one specific thing is kinda sad. It's OK guys, goons mock Derek for all kinds of things over here, join the party. We have cake and Chris got nowhere near it.

# ¿ Nov 1, 2017 18:42

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I can't wait for Reddit-bot to post the screenshots of citizens talking about Derek Smart begging for a job at CIG. It will be peak :smug:

# ¿ Nov 5, 2017 14:27

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Golli posted:

Two more job listings:

Staff musician

Seeking a talented violinist to provide real-time, live musical background to employees and users as required.

- Ability to work in a fast-paced, ever-changing environment
- Demonstrated ability to pacify unsettled users with appropriate pieces
- Familiarity with motivational music to improve production of developer staff
- Repertoire must include at a minimum
- "Flight of the Bumblebee"
- "Nearer My God to Thee"
- "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

Furniture coordinator

- Ability to move, rearrange, acquire, and dispose of furniture pieces in a multi-national, ever-changing job environment to maintain appearance of full productivity and normalcy.
- Feng-Shui certification desired, but not required
- Familiarity with Restoration Hardware furniture sourcebook a must

Calling the low key lay offs now. 2 weeks, ELE etc.

# ¿ Nov 5, 2017 18:40

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Thoatse posted:

Apparently depriving Agent of pancakes leads to some seriously scorched Earth. Hell, I'm glad. For the Earth scorching obviously, not the pancake deprivation. Nobody deserves that.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2017 23:26

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Toops posted:

Same team. But it's charisma. The number one trait that con artists share is they have a natural charm. Doesn't work on everyone, which is why the number two trait that con artists share is how to spot a mark.

I feel like Roberts relies more on reputation than charisma. A reputation that he built in the early days when the industry was small and expectations were low. A reputation that only a small group of people are aware exists. I guess that small group are 100% his marks though so I can't argue about that second trait.

# ¿ Nov 7, 2017 19:53

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FrozenLederhosen posted:

Should I buy Nier or Divinity:OS 2? I like both types of games equally...

DOS2 is great but I am going to buy Nier too so I guess my suggestion is "both".

# ¿ Nov 7, 2017 19:58

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Mirificus posted:

Hello fellow goons, it's me, ~~reddit mole~~quiet thread lurker. How about that local sports team?

# ¿ Nov 10, 2017 22:41

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TheLastRoboKy posted:

Looks not half bad to start but man the longer you watch it the more you start seeing the problems crop up. Problems that really should not be there this long into dev. Problems baked into the entire design of the game. Also that ship's viewport is still hot garbage that eats too much screen for little to no benefit.

I'm not really schooled in this sort of stuff so other than it looking incredibly dull and dropping to single figure FPS what should I be looking for/laughing at? Full disclosure, I couldn't make it through 7 minutes of tedious, slow flying so I did some scrubbing through.

# ¿ Nov 12, 2017 15:46

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Mirificus posted:

As one generation falls, may another rise from the ashes. I say let the most vocal patients runs the asylum for a little while if they want to take over as mods. What's the worst that can happen?

e:

Dementropy posted:

Looks like the perfect man for the job, sign him up!

# ¿ Nov 12, 2017 19:00

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Toops posted:

Just sounds like you guys aren't very good at internet arguing. Remember, people rarely admit defeat on the internet, so your main goal is to make your opponent look stupid.

Here's a page out of the playbook:

I see, I see. So, where can I sign up for the weekly newsletter?

# ¿ Nov 14, 2017 00:11

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VictorianQueerLit posted:

Throwing out a moon and calling the ability to move cargo between grimhex and olisar trading fulfills pretty much every promise if you are a big enough of an rear end in a top hat to argue the existence of 0.00001% of a feature technically delivering on that feature since 0.00001% technically isn't 0%.

The rest is emergent game play. Give people cargo and pirates will naturally follow, then people will form their own police force to counter the pirates. It's just a sandbox, it's not Chris Roberts fault if you don't have any imagination. You just wait until 4.0 when base building is fully implemented and we get a ~~second~~working planet, goons will be clamouring to play the BDSSE. 2 weeks.

# ¿ Nov 20, 2017 23:39

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Truga posted:

https://twitter.com/pcgamer/status/933102746630107141

Good stuff overall. If I'm honest I don't have a problem with cosmetic loot boxes because I don't care enough about my pixels but the money they bring in means I aren't forced to pay for stuff I do want. Still a step in the right direction should always be applauded.

# ¿ Nov 22, 2017 00:42

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trucutru posted:

It's still gambling and should totally be regulated, specially in games where you can trade those cosmetic items.

Skipping a few pages to reply so apologies if I'm repeating things.

I agree but banning loot boxes won't fix the industry. They will just try to fill the shortfall with equally terrible practices. I wouldn't bet against things like enforced DLC or whatever being brought in as a replacement.

EA won't turn over a new leaf, you'll just see things like having to pay to unlock leagues or in FIFA, or charging $9.99 for an "Empire Pack" to unlock Darth Vader with no alternative approach. Blizzard might start charging for map packs or heroes or whatever.

I admit its selfish but loot boxes had no impact on me, I just worry about what shady practice will replace them if they go.

I also wouldn't be shocked if they leant into the gambling and just put a "you must be 18 or over" type warning before you buy them. I don't know if you can separate that from the overall rating of the game though.

Like I said, its a good thing and absolutely a step in the right direction, I just aren't ready to celebrate yet.

# ¿ Nov 22, 2017 12:17

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trucutru posted:

All of those are perfectly fine. I would love to see them try to do that.

I dunno where are you from but in pretty much anywhere, being categorized as "gambling" means that something as simple as a "you must be 18 or over" warnings do jack poo poo, gambling is regulated seriously because people tend to do really stupid stuff when gambling.

See, the issue is not the companies trying to milk all the dollars they can. The issue is them using gambling practices to do so.

In the EU the second I turned 18 I could walk into any casino and throw away as much money as I wanted on whatever sort of game I wanted. Things like bingo websites get advertised during prime time television. Same goes for all the gambling/betting mobile apps, they advertise them during every single sporting event so maybe I just don't see the same sense of heavy regulation :shrug:

I would much, much prefer OW to keep selling loot boxes to people who want to play dress up than to start charging me for maps for example. Same goes for FIFA and it's ultimate team, charging for each individual league would be a travesty. Hearthstone can keep selling cards as long as i can earn them in other ways and the game is free.

I'm not trying to claim that loot boxes are good for games or anything, especially with things like PUBG and CS:GO having boxes that you have to pay to open and EA putting notable content and pay to win type stuff in there. That's why I originally specified that if it's cosmetic only and you can get them without paying I just don't really care and think there are far worse ways (for me) that these companies could try to gouge money.

# ¿ Nov 23, 2017 00:43

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trucutru posted:

Try making a casino at home.

You just listed a shitload of super-regulated stuff and wrote "I just don't see the same sense of heavy regulation"

There are gambling machines in pubs, service stations, hotels and a whole bunch of other things all across the country. I'm sure they're regulated too but they get away with simply putting an '18+ only" sticker nearby which is why I asked if that was feasible in game.

You waved it away as "no, because it needs to be regulated" but if it can work for my local with 0 supervision I'm sure a company can find a way to make a similar gambit work.

E: Blizzard has already bypassed gambling laws by giving away card packs if you buy 1 dust. There are absolutely loop holes. Regulations mean very little.

Redundant fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Nov 23, 2017

# ¿ Nov 23, 2017 01:00

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Truga posted:

lol do you have any loving idea how much oversight those "gambling machines in pubs, service stations" etc get? If the place tampers with them or the company making them makes them incorrectly, they get turbofucked.

Are loot box generators being tampered with in some way? Legit question. I know some places require you to announce the drop rate but assuming all the numbers are working out correctly what's to prevent the 18+ sticker?

# ¿ Nov 23, 2017 01:04

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trucutru posted:

Look, this is some reddit-level discussion stuff and this is not the thread for it. So I'm out.

If you don't realize the inherent problem with gambling in video games (even for cosmetic stuff) and how it is a billion times worse than buying teams or whatever if FIFA games then I don't think I'll be able to make you see it. The games have to get money, just ask yourself who are they trying to get money from with the gambling mechanic?

As for the "why make regulations if they gonna be bypassed" then gently caress! I have no words.

I'm absolutely not arguing against regulating gambling in any way and aren't a fan of loot boxes. I think companies should be more open with those things.

I'm just asking "if given proper regulations and oversight is it possible that they could put an 18+ part and carry on like nothing happened?"

Golli posted:

The issue is that credit card companies have special requirements or prohibitions on purchasing gambling items using their products.

Without an easy way to make impulse lootcrate purchases, the economics start to break down.

Ah, the answer is no. I wondered why fruit machines etc only take cash.

# ¿ Nov 23, 2017 01:16

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trucutru posted:

Ok, I lied about being out, I'll answer this one but you first answer me if you honestly believe that a 18+ sticker would do anything to prevent children from gambling in their games.

Well, yes, let's change that to they need *all* the money.

Not really. In the same way the sticker doesn't stop kids gambling on the machines in some of the places I mentioned before. I'm not asking if its ethical though (gambling pretty much universally isn't), just if they can try to create enough wiggle room to get away with it.

The answer was already answered well from an economic limitation perspective by Golli but I'm still happy to hear your thoughts.

# ¿ Nov 23, 2017 01:32

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Beet Wagon posted:

Imagine my surprise to find out I haven't given CIG enough money to get PTU access lmao.

Also, saw this on reddit:

If that's true it means the TEN HUNDRED MILLION SQUARE KILWRATHIMETERS OF SPACE TO EXPLORE might as well not exist lol

So QT is basically a loading screen then?

# ¿ Nov 23, 2017 17:53

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Zzr posted:

This whole project is a long loading screen waiting to crash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCtdyNFwQWo&t=3614s

# ¿ Nov 23, 2017 18:53

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Dooguk posted:

I do like sweet potatoes, but have never had them in a pie. Wrong side of the Atlantic I suppose.

Starts food bucket list as I am quite old.

Finding a pie is tough in the UK but making them isn't that traumatic and the ingredients are pretty cheap and easy to find. It took me a few hours but I aren't very good at baking.

# ¿ Nov 23, 2017 20:16

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ManofManyAliases posted:

Sorry, busy atm.

Busy responding to summons? Playing the mighty 3.0? Eating at risk animals? This is important. For the space court.

# ¿ Jan 3, 2018 22:59

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D_Smart posted:

I agree.

D_Smart posted:

Agreed.

I'm no big city lawyer, but weren't their points kind of contradictory?

e: drat, sniped and I'm phone posting. Can someone with a nice dogge or catte spotte me a taxxe?

Redundant fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Jan 4, 2018

# ¿ Jan 3, 2018 23:58

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D_Smart posted:

No

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3800238&pagenumber=3369&perpage=40#post479894120

And No

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3800238&pagenumber=3369&perpage=40#post479893898

Oh good. Now you've linked the posts again it all makes more sense and I fully understand how CIG will simultaneously settle without responding/appointing counsel and be unable to settle without responding/appointing counsel. Good.

e: that is a dashing and handsome catte, thanks.

# ¿ Jan 4, 2018 00:10

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I think we can all agree that Derek has a 100% success rate of calling twitter storms.

# ¿ Jan 4, 2018 18:57

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Just posting to make the list... Derek Smart was right?

# ¿ Jan 4, 2018 19:50

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So after finally catching up with the thread I will take this brief reprieve to say that I bought 3030 Deathwar in the Steam sales. I'm aware that has basically nothing to do with SC but it seems like the sort of spacey game SC fans might like if they weren't so caught up on imagined "fidelity". As for me, I have no idea what I'm doing and the important ship is definitely going to end up being found by someone else. Who needs lots of money though, I have my new found career as a bike messenger/taxi service to focus on.

# ¿ Jun 24, 2018 11:56

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Colostomy Bag posted:

Along with Clifford's pocket change, we also have many taxpayers to thank for this debacle.

As one of those tax payers I feel like I should apply for a refund.

# ¿ Jul 2, 2018 16:10

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Mirificus posted:

Star Citizen: I'm right, and you're wrong (citation needed)

Considering the only space game I've played much of is Deathwar I honestly think SC might have provided me with the most hours if enjoyment. Its a vicarious enjoyment deftly enabled by some top tier posting, bit enjoyment none the less. I think my drunk brain is trying to say that thread, you're my favourite space game. See you in the verse, commando's!

# ¿ Aug 20, 2018 02:33

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Bofast posted:

Is that a tit in a toupee? Crobbird.

# ¿ Aug 21, 2018 16:16

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Hav posted:

Edit: Didn't like the 'feathering' on the arm.

Proc gen birds confirmed for 3.6! The Jesus patch is finally here (again).

# ¿ Aug 21, 2018 17:35

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Is there a kind person or bot who could link me to the Crobblers letter to the escapist? Its for a ~~lawsuit~~ :airquote:

friend

# ¿ Aug 22, 2018 12:33

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orcane posted:

Hello commando:

https://archive.is/33W9O

It's so beautiful :allears:

About half way through reading it my teeth went numb and I started sweating profusely, is that normal? I guess it must be the ~~contact high~~ *waves hands* fidelity.

# ¿ Aug 22, 2018 12:52

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Mirificus posted:

https://twitter.com/real_lethality/status/1032337737255399424

How else am I going to clean the glasses after making dozens of Hairy Roberts for my high class passengers? By hand? Pfft, that's for the peasants who didn't buy in early.

# ¿ Aug 22, 2018 22:46

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Koil posted:

They forgot the scale factor!! Run before she clips through the floor!

# ¿ Sep 8, 2018 13:44

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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 18:45

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Beet Wagon posted:

Don’t you gotta like... have achievements in your game to make an achievement hunting video about it?

Based on the capitalisation I assume they're talking about the YouTube channel. They make all sorts of stuff, not just achievement hunting videos. The last thing SC needs is mainstream exposure though so I say do it.

# ¿ Jan 1, 2019 20:18

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