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TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx
I have returned.

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TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx
In the 3 days I have reflected on several things. But mainly on the similarities between dog fighting and videogame development.

Both seem really easy to an outside observer. A child can train these pits its in their blood to kill and every child knows how to have fun.

But in reality it is extremely difficult and can end in severe maulings by the bitch or members of the community.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

TheAgent posted:

actually wait
  • sqlude is the only planned sq42 release; everything else is delayed indefinitely
  • the rest of the chapters depend on the success of sqlude and additional ship sales
  • 2.6, then sqlude, then 3.0
  • all that subscriber nonsense I posted about awhile back is still being discussed, ie certain classes, missions, skins, weapons locked behind sub

Well that's the MVP right there. There never will be anything else. Especially if they are going to see how 'lude is received (it wont go well). It will take all of 2017+ to poop that stuff out, they'll limp around for months (collecting pledges) and then they will shut down.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Nothing will shut down until the money stops rolling in, and backers have shown to be almost inconceivably resistent to failure on CIG's part

We'll all be here a year from now, wondering what the hell happened/didn't happen. As long as they can keep the Citizens from playing their broken heap of poo poo they'll be happy

Yea I think they'll make it to 2018 in some form. But they have to release something for SQ42 next year and that will be the end of them when they can't hide behind "alpha" anymore. The dream balloon has to pop at some point.

But yea if theres one thing this thread has been perpetually wrong about (me especially) its the willingness of the backers to be poo poo on then spend.

TheLightPurges fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Dec 3, 2016

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

BigglesSWE posted:

They did get pretty drat pissed over that sale some weeks ago. "Muh autistwagon cost me more than that!"

But then they shoved that boring Star Marine footage (I think it was? These names, man, only a shitizen can truly keep up) and all was good again.

Yea they do seem to get mad but the very second they show anything that allows them to believe that stuff is happening over at CIG they open their wallets. Even if its a pile of poo poo.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

aleksendr posted:

But it has already been presold to the vast majority of its audience since 2014 at the jolly tune of 45$. They should know if it is a success...

Old backer money doesn't count. And remember they've been telling themselves and potential future investors that they're only 10%of the market.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx
How far do you think the "well you cant judge them on this release they're a rookie dev studio on their first time out" will carry them?

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

I.N.R.I posted:

Hi everyone, hope you're all having a fabulous day of screaming at everything and saying how bad you think it is. This post is just a quick reminder for you all to call or visit your parents wherever possible because they love and care about you

Star Citizen sucks eggs

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx
The second they said they were doing Cloud was when I knew they had no intention of succeeding. Any MMO worth a gently caress has their own servers they control.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

Beet Wagon posted:

"Oh neat CIG has new weapon artwork out, I wonder what creative and practical designs they've come up with..."



"Hmm, that's actually not bad looking, aside from being really front-heavy. Something about that seems familiar though, I wonder where I've seen that befo-"



WTF is wrong with these people.

Put this n reddit.

TheLightPurges fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Dec 3, 2016

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

Wrecked Angle posted:

Sorry, I'm gonna have to disagree on that one, they aren't that similar.

You could make the case for almost every modern gun being derived from some previous model. There's only so many ways you can configure and style some handles, a barrel and a trigger.

Of course, whether you would want to go for a '21st century assault rifle' aesthetic in you space game set nearly 1000 years into the future is another matter.

They literally have all the same angles. Look at the stock and mag especially. Its not an accident.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx
I understand with modern weapons there is a bit of form convergence but look at the sheer variety of firearms out there today. And this is 900 years in the future in the game they can do whatever the gently caress they want.

Their new art shouldn't happen to look like a competitors gun that released last month.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

Quavers posted:

Looking at the super-accurate funding-tracker SC is doing extremely well at bringing in more cash for not-in-game ships.

One wonders why the grey market still needs to trade at 20%-30% below value with all this enthusiastic demand & cash swimming around.

Definitely not a scam.

Yea that's what I don't get. Something doesn't add up. They barely crack 10k views for their anniversary stream, regular streamers are lucky to get low 3 digits of users, forums and reddit are fairly slow. I'm supposed to believe they took in 7 million last month?

I'm not saying its completely made up but there is stuff being counted in there that is throwing these way off. The community is far too small and interest demonstrably too low to consistently give these clowns 30-40 mil per year.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

Solarin posted:

PS this is probably what Derek's 'gonna get sued 100% end of story' blog was addressing. If they are manipulating this and lying about their actual funding then we got some good times ahead.

They say all over their website they are a 100% crowdfunded project, that claim has to be complete bullshit but I have no idea if there is legal standards around the term crowdfunded

This investment group is a large group of normal people. Some could call it a crowd.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

I.N.R.I posted:

What's wrong with being in a wheelchair?

Most people think it sucks if you can't walk.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx
You just know they all wrote those themselves lol

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

Decrepus posted:

Everyone made money selling jpgs and/or Bitcoins.

FACT

Everyone said gold was a scam but if you bought gold anytime in the last 30 years you made serious bank.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

Beet Wagon posted:

It's pretty funny how we've become comic book supervillains to those guys. Part of me feels obligated to correct the narrative, but on the other hand letting people like Cymelion believe that we have some kind of master plan to get all the citizens to refund is probably the funnier option.

He doesn't think these things because of some evidence he saw so why would you, a Lieutenant of Satan, be able to persuade him of anything?

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

KM Scorchio posted:

I've been looking around online for information on this "Tickled" film and came up with something called "Gay Tickled Asian Twinks 7". Is this the thing you're all watching that is good, cos if so i'm, all over it.

Some brave goon was just jackin it on the fetish part of pornhub and found a familiar face. I call him brave because he shared with us.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx
My contribution to Star Citizen is getting the subreddits rules changed to remove the "dont spam your youtube/twitch/blog on this reddit"

Because I'd report a bunch of INN's near daily threads and warn them in thread to quit it or suffer the consequences of admin action.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

Sappo569 posted:

That seems like an awful lot of important people to be hiring this late in the game

19 from Engineering?

16 Art types? That's all they produce is art work, and they need MORE?

I guess either so many are leaving they can't replace them fast enough,or Crobberts wont be happy until he has 500 people under his will and whim

Yea theres only a few options to have that many open spots. Honestly all those open spots can make a large near AAA game in their own right.

A. They want to expand to 400+ people.

B. They are firing/laying off a fuckload of people and want to replace them. (moving jobs to other studios)

C. Turnover is insanely high.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx
BTW heres actual Star Marine footage. I swear its not a vid of my Knee hair

https://vid.me/bZ5x


The gun sights bug out, its a little laggy, and more importantly its literally impossible to kill the dude sniping (a one shot gun) and camping the flag you have to stand still at for ten+ seconds. People tried but could barely ding him.

TheLightPurges fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Dec 5, 2016

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

Mr.PayDay posted:

So do they pay salaries that are standard and usual in the industry? Or less? SC and CIG get their dicks sucked by the biggest german games magazines that the foundry positions should be getting spamloads of apply-mails?
Working for the record breaking crowdfunding project should pay off, right? CR still has a superb reputation in Germany , gaming "journalists" still praise him over here

A private company like Foundry42 developing for CIG in Germany should easily pay 80-100k Euro per year for Senior Devs, when public administrations like https://www.dataport.de/websites/en/Seiten/default.aspx already pay 60+k.(less salary but crisis-safe job, flexible work times, max 40 hours per week, no weekend work etc).

So, where is the/their problem filling the spots?

Every salary posted on glassdoor is below industry average. And devs have grumbled about that before. Combined with the terrible crunch (seriously the devs post updates n poo poo at like 9pm where they are at) and the fact that its immediately obvious its FUBAR leads to anyone experienced leaving and only hiring new grads.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

TheLightPurges posted:

BTW heres actual Star Marine footage. I swear its not a vid of my Knee hair

https://vid.me/bZ5x


The gun sights bug out, its a little laggy, and more importantly its literally impossible to kill the dude sniping (a one shot gun) and camping the flag you have to stand still at for ten+ seconds. People tried but could barely ding him.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/259596-The-Star-Citizen-Thread-v5/page1854

Its from there. And its probably real so Derek got owned?

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx
Also if anyone wants to laugh at how broken the Cattepillar is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkmPnG4z4B0

The first 30 seconds kinda sums up the whole vid.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

The superfluous walkways in the cargo section annoy me. They serve no purpose other than to look cool and provide another way to walk around. Maybe they serve as an alternate FPS path? But if so it seems like just going outside the ship would be equally logical. More importantly they take up space that could be used for larger items or pieces of cargo. Maybe they make more sense with other modules that have two levels?

But yeah, it's hilariously broken. Are there any large ships that are actually polished and done?

Citizens loved it on the subreddit. They prob just thought "Evocati its gonna be buggy". They aren't fixing that poo poo in a week. Thats the product lol.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx
I just realized what was bugging me about the vid. There was no music.

Even "realistic" shooters like BF1 have underlying music. It doesn't dominate the game and I rarely notice its there until now when there was none. Virtually all shooters/games do. It sets the mood and the pace. In BF the music gets faster as you near the end of the round etc.

TheLightPurges fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Dec 5, 2016

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx
The utter contempt they show their customers at every level of the organization is what makes CIG stick out from any other random lovely company. I mean it makes sense.

How can you have genuine respect for a customer if you shovel poo poo in their mouths for years and they still pay you thousands of bucks for nothing? You can't. I can see why they've given up.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

SirPhoebos posted:

Was wondering why the Star Citizen thread hadn't updated in 3 days.

Also closing before page 6666? :sad:

If Derek releases the long awaited ELE funding tracker blog I'm sure Beer and Beat can be convinced to reopen the thread for magic 6666.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx
This thread desperately needs AssRapistDude420

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

ManofManyAliases posted:

No. From what was told to me, evocati were testing different builds. In a day, they send out multiple builds. Some are more focused on flight dynamics while others on FPS gameplay. The evocati have their own chat, discord, ptu forums, etc. They're all in one test group, but testing different things. The results are tabulated and they'll use those to streamline the builds so that the can get it out to PTU quicker.

I hope this is true because this is the stupidest loving thing I've ever heard especially for such minor poo poo.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/5godvs/what_do_you_suppose_the_honesty_knob_does/

The Honesty Knob. A cogent discussion of the in game mechanics offered by this device.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx
I just want them to release it. Because this can gently caress them hard. Most people dont have enough context to know if a space game is good and what are essential simple elements.

Everyone has played a million fpses and has a good idea of what to reasonably expect. Some will see right into the shoddiness of it and get woke.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx
This guy is gone forever though

quote:

Dude...I made about my whole org join up...some of them tried to play with us, but had problems. Server, own PC being to old, Server again, disconnects, pad full, disconnects...

...playing with more then 3 is really hard...and we made it to 5 one evening.

Of course my friends complain about what I made them join...."this BS is what you keep talking about?"

The thing is, its open development...nothing you can do exept smile and say "one day you'll thank me".

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

lol drumpf

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx
Toast finally get paralegaled for the TOS?

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

Sabreseven posted:

Thats £67,088 exactly. Not sure what a graphics coder would get these days but about 10 years ago it was more like £30-35k, highest I ever heard for similar work was £48k but that guy had awesomely specific qualifications that defied belief.

It certainly doesn't sound very industry average to me, but I'm way out of date on that stuff nowadays. :shrug:

85k in Southern California is more like 50-55ish in actual America. theres a reason disco is a grey haired old man and lives roomies.

TheLightPurges fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Dec 6, 2016

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx
I legit dont understand when the citizens talk about exploration and discovery of new star systems as a mechanic. To the point of buying a 1200 dollar exploration package. I thought all the systems were fleshed out and had all this lore? Whats to explore? Why can't I do this in a fighter? Is a derelict begal invisible to a fighter?

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

WLMortis posted:

It's made of the worst type of cloth

Its the worlds itchiest sweater on a pole with several very uncomfrotable naked mole rats inside it.

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TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

Ghostlight posted:

Personally I'm a big fan of how every photo of development happening on a computer that's come out since we made fun of crunch-time working outside of hours has carefully cropped the lower right of the display out.

For laughs you can just see dev ptu update posts on their forums. Shits all at 9pm

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