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Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Beet Wagon posted:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cq9GN1X1Qc

Fuckin... great job CIG. Just keep doing what you're doing.

I'm the stock photos filling in for an environment artist.

Crazypoops fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Jul 21, 2017

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Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



hot balls man no homo posted:

How the hell do these tires even work? On a normal tire, every rotation of the axle spins the tire one full rotation so your car moves forward whatever the diameter of the tire per rotation.

These super space tires are tiny tires within tires. Every rotation of whatever overly complicated axle within that monstrosity spins the little tire within the tire one rotation. That rotation moves the inner part of the outside tire whatever the diameter of the small tire. And that spins the outside part of the outside tire and moves the car forward a small bit more but that ratio decreases with the thickness of the outside tire. It's been a while since I did calculations with circles, all that pi arr squared stuff so I can't do the math. But it shouldn't be complicated, axle spins, wheel turns, car moves.

It's like having your car in low gear, but now it's all the time. That white smoke is your blown head gasket, and that just means it's working.

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Wrecked Angle posted:

One of the things that is consistently amazing to me about Star Citizen and CIG is how they seem to be massively incompetent at just about everything and yet somehow also running a whale-milking operation almost to perfection.

It really does make me wonder sometimes who or what is really behind all this.

Everything is just soooo spot on to exactly what you would do if you wanted to extract maximum ongoing funds from backers it's uncanny! The 'limited' ship sales, the CCU and 'ship melting' systems, the grey market, the subscriber system, evocati and concierge, the list goes on.

Then you've got the delays, but sometimes they almost seem like scripted delays, they wait and wait and wait and then just as things start to get to a tipping point there's something produced which is just enough to satisfy the uprising.

Again with the ship sales ask yourself this, are they desperately hawking everything for a quick buck or could you see that actually all these sales are being 'expertly' managed to generate a certain amount of revenue? We all know that if they wanted a few million quid overnight they could put "Banu Alienship 2.0" on concept sale without even showing any design and they'd rake it in, so why don't they? Someone there has some marketing savvy and we know it's not Crobbler himself.

It's just remarkable how we all assume that all the evidence points to CIG being completely incompetent when actually we're missing the point. CIG are completely incompetent at making a computer game, but they're massively shrewd and accomplished at making nerds part with their cash.

Confidence Scam

- Stages of the con -

Foundation Work

Preparations are made in advance of the game, including the hiring of any assistants required.

Approach

The victim is contacted.

Build-up

The victim is given an opportunity to profit from a scheme. The victim's greed is encouraged, such that their rational judgment of the situation might be impaired.

Pay-off or Convincer

The victim receives a small payout as a demonstration of the scheme's effectiveness. This may be a real amount of money, or faked in some way. In a gambling con, the victim is allowed to win several small bets. In a stock market con, the victim is given fake dividends.

The Hurrah

A sudden crisis or change of events forces the victim to act immediately. This is the point at which the con succeeds or fails.

The In-and-In

A conspirator (in on the con, but assumes the role of an interested bystander) puts an amount of money into the same scheme as the victim, to add an appearance of legitimacy to the scheme. This can reassure the victim, and give the con man greater control when the deal has been completed.

In addition, some games require a "corroboration" step, particularly those involving a "rare item". This usually includes the use of an accomplice who plays the part of an uninvolved (initially skeptical) third party, who later confirms the claims made by the con man.

- Vulnerability to confidence tricks -

Confidence tricks exploit typical human characteristics such as greed, dishonesty, vanity, opportunism, lust, compassion, credulity, irresponsibility, desperation, and naïvety. As such, there is no consistent profile of a confidence trick victim; the common factor is simply that the victim relies on the good faith of the con artist. Victims of investment scams tend to show an incautious level of greed and gullibility, and many con artists target the elderly, but even alert and educated people may be taken in by other forms of a confidence trick.

Accomplices, also known as shills, help manipulate the mark into accepting the perpetrator's plan. In a traditional confidence trick, the mark is led to believe that he will be able to win money or some other prize by doing some task. The accomplices may pretend to be strangers who have benefited from performing the task in the past.

(Interestingly here, the "accomplices" are also the marks, as the shills for CIG are duped themselves).

Crazypoops fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Jul 21, 2017

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Natron posted:

That's so strange, I have one of these in the very secret alpha build of my game, too. Check out this in-engine screenshot of it in action:


This is just a shot showing off a couple yet-to-be-refactored ramming space ships coming in for the kill on my Surface to Air Laser Technical. The SALT is placed in a procedurally generated landscape made by my proprietary "Smarty Terrain" generator, which is of course set to "Milford Sound, NZ" for best results.

Derek, if you'd like to license my terrain generation middleware just let me know. If anyone else wants in on this groundbreakingly fidelitous game project, a SALT can be bought for just $100, and if you'd like it in black you can just buy six of them. The Ramparp spaceships pictured are also priced to sell at just $45 a piece, but for a limited time only! Remember, they're one use only, as well, so you'd better stock up!

Wouldn't it be great if someone started selling discount "dreams". Like the Walmart version of CIG.

Bulk 100 "dreams" for only $9.95 (while supplies last)

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Hav posted:

You know, this CCU stuff could get them into trouble. They're loving around with other people's money here.

In any other industry I would say yes, they are going to burn, but the gaming industry gets away with so much poo poo it astounds me.

Fraud, Illegal Gambling, Misappropriation. I mean gently caress, pick out any F2P game and you could probably find 4-5 felonies just in the god drat advertisement!

How the gently caress every other industry gets regulated the poo poo out of, but the gaming industry which brought in $91 billion dollars last year gets a loving shrug and a pass.

This whole loving thing with Crobbles shows that the gaming industry absolutely requires government intervention and regulation. What's happening with CIG is incredibly destructive and will have dire ramifications down the road for anyone involved in the industry.

I mean, they already dismantled Crytek. I can only imagine the havoc Crapples has caused to the industry over there. These things don't exist on a island separate from the world. It has a wake that spreads through everything it touches.

What if some shitflam man came in and hosed around with ID back in the day, the way shitberts is with Amazon and Cry, where would the industry be now?

Crazypoops fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Jul 22, 2017

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



D_Smart posted:

Here we go again. It's like 2015 all over again

"First man on the moon: hands-on with Star Citizen Alpha 3.0"

Of course, once again, information like this is behind a media paywall instead of being shown to backers who gave them $155M to date.

*not pictured: game

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017




What is it that makes these people completely overlook E:D. Like do they have a piece of radioactive shrapnel in the part of their brain that knows about it?

Like if you showed them a poster and told them to say the name at gun point. "eeeEEEELllliiiaaa- NNNNNOOOOOOOOO ccccchhhhhHRHRRRRRRRIIISSSSSS!" *gun shot*

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017




If only there was a safe place for them to discuss SC, some kind of human habitat or a cluster of buildings sometimes called a compound?

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Beet Wagon posted:

it basically just ends with everyone here covered in poo poo.

Spoiler Alert!

Sigh, now i know how SC ends.

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Amazing Zimmo posted:

https://twitter.com/SandiGardiner/status/888477677522255872

Can anyone explain to me what this has to do with cargo? or anything for that matter?

You mean when you're playing a space sim you don't go on a drunken rampage through the galaxy with your best friend Cratey?

Update: That Crate crashed the ship. He's a loose cannon.

Crazypoops fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Jul 23, 2017

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Combat Theory posted:

Here's the double whopper of Darkstar in full troll mode. That butt slide glitch we actually got from a cig qa video, what's more hilarious than getting killed by a t-posing commando? Getting killed by a butt sliding commando.

https://youtu.be/MbPvKUWiRs8

https://youtu.be/X4leFrga2Tk

:allears:

The best part is him having to watch that loving animation every time.

Crazypoops fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Jul 23, 2017

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Ghostlight posted:

I blame the toxicity of nerds that fled into computers because it didn't challenge their social skills that became rats backed into a corner because it turned out that computers and social skills aren't mutually exclusive.

I believe we're all quite aware of the origins of this thread sir.

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



What if they somehow release 3.0 and there is some kind of game in there? Is it even possible?

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



XK posted:

Maybe we'll all load up 3.0 and SimCity will be in there.

But think about how entertaining it will be reading citizens explaining how it's genius and game development.

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Colostomy Bag posted:

Welcome. What is your SC story? With our handles I feel like we are long lost brothers.

I played the crap out of Everspace, got an old familiar taste for space sims, looked up SC, found Derek's blogs, blogs led me to SA, SA led me to Major Tom YT videos, those led me to E:D, now 400 hours in E:D (probably enough going to take a break until next update. I will leave a negative review at about 1,000 or so hours about how shallow it is though since that is a requirement.)

Now confused about why anyone would back SC when E:D pretty much fulfills all desires for space simmining, and still lurking because this thread is more entertaining then the internet.

The End.

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Beet Wagon posted:

so I guess it would mostly be me sucking Titanfall 2's dick for two pages lol.

Still a better use of your time than playing SC.

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



G0RF posted:

Chris Roberts, making the hard calls on Squadron 42.






:five:

It's pretty incredible, really.

Jesus Christ what a nightmare it must be to work for that man.

"Oh I missed that the suit is for space in the concepts, this is actually for underwater. Also, what color is his underwear?"

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Beet Wagon posted:


e: gently caress it, here's holograms in Titanfall 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68R1ijUTvyM

Wow Titanfall 2 looks fun as gently caress.

I haven't played FPS's since the days of "Okay we're all making Call Of Duty now", looks like the industry is back to trying to be fun again.

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Raskolnikov posted:

:aaa: really?

Game Development Relationship Status: It's Complicated.



Wow they must have quite the koolaid cocktale for baby hirees.

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Nicholas posted:

I kept track of it a long time ago. Not sure if thats what you were referring to

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=1&threadid=3748466&perpage=40&pagenumber=829#post454015043

pre:
 
Item					Count	Price		Total		Images
INDUSTRIAL TOOL CHEST 4-DOOR MEDIA	1	$1,895.00	$1,895.00	http://i.imgur.com/FGof4QD.jpg
FRENCH LIBRARY SINGLE SHELVING		2	$1,795.00	$3,590.00	http://i.imgur.com/ASUbshK.jpg
BLACKHAWK 51" COFFEE TABLE		1	$1,495.00	$1,495.00	http://imgur.com/uZSXx8Q.jpg
FLATIRON ROUND DINING TABLE		1	$1,395.00	$1,395.00	http://i.imgur.com/FGof4QD.jpg
FLATIRON DESK				9	$995.00		$8,955.00	http://www.ultraimg.com/images/CUdg57NVEAAb2yq.jpg
										http://imgur.com/MrqkxAQ.jpg
SPUTNIK FILAMENT FLOOR LAMP		2	$595.00		$1,190.00	http://i.imgur.com/dXhi4G9.png
										http://www.ultraimg.com/images/arf.jpg
BLACKHAWK 2-DRAWER SIDE TABLE		1	$1,095.00	$1,095.00	http://i.imgur.com/6yXtjdi.jpg
AVIATOR CHAIR				2	$2,795.00	$5,590.00	http://i.imgur.com/Jgz48w3.jpg
TV EASEL - POLISHED-NICKEL		2	$2,495.00	$4,990.00	http://imgur.com/MrqkxAQ.jpg
										http://www.ultraimg.com/images/arf.jpg
AVIATOR WING DESK			1	$2,395.00	$2,395.00	http://i.imgur.com/FGof4QD.jpg
AVIATOR OTTOMAN				1	$1,495.00	$1,495.00	http://i.imgur.com/TeW0Sth.gif
~$34,000.00
* the flat iron desks are the only semi functional furniture on here (semi, because they make pretty poor office desks)
** only items that could individually identified
*** for pricing on the aviator chairs i assumed they went with the nicest leather because who cares about backers money
**** thats almost definitely an RH couch in the last gif but i can't identify it

Um can you keep it civil please?

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Mr.Tophat posted:

No need for apostrophe friend, that can be refactored

A little mocap will fix that right up.

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



XK posted:

Gonzo.

Too bad. :(

Yah as soon as he started having his meltdown CIG employee's came rushing in trying to stop the containment breach.

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Thoatse posted:

can't even craft a record player



so shallow #notevendeep

(hours played - 2309120-49021828012110-1-000000.1∞)

Crazypoops fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Aug 1, 2017

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017




:stonk:

Mirificus posted:

I think samfreez is referring to his Star Citizen backer number there. His High Admiral title indicates he's spent $1000+.


Well that's slightly better. Still though, that's like 1000 chocolate bars.

Crazypoops fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Aug 1, 2017

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



D_Smart posted:

MAN DOWN!! MAN DOWN!!!

$17K REFUND!!

THROW MOMA FROM THE TRAIN! :pgabz:

God drat it Derek, could you please keep it CIVIL in here?

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Wait,

Is he seriously straight faced saying that rendering to texture hasn't been done before?

:confuoot:

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Tippis posted:

Is there a timestamp or something where he actually displays this ignorance of the last 20 years of computer games?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ4mou4OR4U&t=240s

I'm pretty excited about this new technology too. Also, have you guys heard about 3d accelerated graphics?!

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Lazrin posted:

maybe the project has less of a chance of finishing because of his involvement... but he's the only one who started making a star citizen, so i gave him money.

i gave jc at dual universe money too.

it's not faith at all... someone's trying to do something i want to play, so i give them a financial hand. that's the beginning and end of it.

Chris Roberts: He's just trying to do something

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



I don't know how anyone can look at this project and not see it needs to be completely scrapped and redone.

Like that low FPS that the game has right now, that's not because they put too much stuff in and need to reduce clutter. These are bare loving scenes. There's something fundamentally wrong with the engine if that is happening right now.

They've had 5 years and just loving now they're going to stop the useless videos and actually do some work?

Who the gently caress makes a space ship game with the loving cry engine?

Why do they have a TV show about what they should be doing instead of making a TV show?

Why is a game like 6 seperate games?

Why is Sandi the face of the company? I've seen more likeable scorpions.

Did they kill Ben?

How the gently caress is there not a playable demo for a single player game made in the cry engine yet?

How do you gently caress up FPS multiplayer in the cry engine? That's like manslaughtering three small children while trying to learn the guitar.

Why make an MMO? Was the ability to be annoyed by 5000 13y olds what was missing from the old Wing Commander games?

and

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Who is the modern day game developer rock star? I can't think of anyone who I would consider checking out a game based on their name alone.

Yeah, it's a relic.

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Percelus posted:

did lasers just shoot out of that commandos groin?

I've changed my mind. This game IS the best game ever made.

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Quavers posted:

Happy page 1700! :toot:

Here are some old (classic?) Chris Roberts articles for light reading :tif:



And finally...

Chris Roberts: "Chairman's Response to The Escapist (Or: The Long Troll)" (2015)

I don't know how that loving wall of excuses didn't set off all of the alarm bells.

Like that letter should just be titled "Red flags: The Movie".

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



aleksendr posted:

Something feel.. Off. Cant figure it out but the hips feel wrong, like they are pinned too high above her pelvic bone.


It's because whoever mocapped that is wearing loving heels. :ughh: That's why it looks like a supermodel is walking down the isle.

aleksendr posted:

Also women dont "sway" once they are loaded with 30+lbs of field gear.

They don't sway at all without heels, that's why heels are a thing.

Crazypoops fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Aug 6, 2017

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



toanoradian posted:

There's so many red flags coming out of SC a US president might ask Roberts to tear down the wall.

:rimshot:

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



TheAgent posted:

I still can't believe the new thing people are talking about is "procedural cities"

like mortherfucker, no

no

they can't even procgen a loving moon

just no

Doors, they can't do doors.

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



aleksendr posted:

Weird.

As time goes by and release loom CIG convention presence get lower and lower.

i always beleived it was supposed to be the other way around, no ?

I wonder if that's the plan, are they going to just quiet down and sneak out after everyone's stopped paying attention, or is Chris's ego too big for that?

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



his nibs posted:

Looks like he's doing a birthday Star Citizen stream today :shrug:

https://www.twitch.tv/wtfosaurus

Probably realizing he missed the boat.

3 years streaming a poo poo pile, he has zero experience to show for it.

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



D_Smart posted:

Yeah. It's amazing that all of them are now all of a sudden SHOCKED that there is no loving game and that they've been backing an active scam.

I have to say, CIG really passes it off AS IF there IS a game though.

I almost bought the starter ship because on the site it appears to have working finished content.

Then you run the game and it's a poorly optimized CRY mod, but you've already put money into it so you're already into justify purchase mode (if you didn't have your guard up as mostall gamers do).

Then you just keep looping that, and you end up with the most die hard of backers.

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Jobbo_Fett posted:

Hey gently caress: Steve Derek

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Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Rad Russian posted:

Their mocap in-game looks absolutely amazing compared to the poo poo CIG has been putting out after throwing upwards of $40 mil into the mocap studios with A list actors. The untold tens of millions of dollars Croberts has wasted on producing complete garbage is unbelievable.

That's because good mocap is highly reliant on the animators to clean it up and improve the timing and motion so it's more readable.

Croberts is god so I imagine nobody is allowed to touch that poo poo after he's done pretending he knows how to make movies.

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