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I've wanted an open world punisher game since fuckin GTA 3 and it's crazy no one has made one yet.
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Feb 16, 2020 20:11
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Vince MechMahon posted:I've wanted an open world punisher game since fuckin GTA 3 and it's crazy no one has made one yet. Yeah that seems like a no brainer but you'd have to add some element to it that makes it "The Punisher" rather than just another GTA clone. I'd picture something more along the lines of Splinter Cell or MGS than GTA but something that that uses different gangs and corrupt cops taking over areas of a city I could see. It would have to more tactical than GTA and involve more stealth and sniping and poo poo. I heard decent things about the PS2 Punisher game but most of it was just about all the crazy ways you could murder and torture people so I never checked it out since all I could think of was Manhunt and I didn't like that game.
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Feb 16, 2020 20:30
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im sure disney would be thrilled with all the uploaded videos of a character they own gunning down civilians with an m60 trying to get a 5star so they can shoot cops and the military
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Feb 16, 2020 20:31
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site posted:im sure disney would be thrilled with all the uploaded videos of a character they own gunning down civilians with an m60 trying to get a 5star so they can shoot cops and the military A properly done Punisher game wouldn't let you kill civilians or cops.
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Feb 16, 2020 20:36
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yes if theres one thing gta and its clones are known for its not being buggy or having easily abused targeting and explosion systems i guess you could try building a city entirely devoid of any cops or civvies, but the feels like it would be fairly empty and boring site fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Feb 16, 2020 |
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Feb 16, 2020 20:41
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site posted:yes if theres one thing gta and its clones are known for its not being buggy or having easily abused targeting and explosion systems I mean... or civilians just don't take damage? Unless you're arguing "but Disney wouldn't let the bad guys hurt people either!!" which is easily disproven by the vast number of Disney games which say the opposite.
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Feb 16, 2020 20:49
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site posted:yes if theres one thing gta and its clones are known for its not being buggy or having easily abused targeting and explosion systems At the very least, there shouldn't be gameplay mechanics that encourage it. There was a racing game a long time ago where you raced through city streets and all the people milling around were programmed to be olympic level gymnasts who would "always" dodge your car if you tried to hit them. I think you could get it so you could hit them, but nothing happened, you just drove through them.
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Feb 16, 2020 20:54
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ImpAtom posted:I mean... or civilians just don't take damage? Unless you're arguing "but Disney wouldn't let the bad guys hurt people either!!" which is easily disproven by the vast number of Disney games which say the opposite. i dont know where you conjured the second part from, but for the first i cant imagine any gta clone where you are gunning down bad guys and shooting grenades down the block wouldnt look stupid as hell and pretty jarring if civilians just run into gunfire and are entirely unphased like, people thought the batmobile running people over and not killing them was ludicrous enough, its gonna take a lot of suspending disbelief to have those sort of mechanics in a murder sim
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Feb 16, 2020 21:04
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site posted:i dont know where you conjured the second part from, but for the first i cant imagine any gta clone where you are gunning down bad guys and shooting grenades down the block wouldnt look stupid as hell and pretty jarring if civilians just run into gunfire and are entirely unphased I mean that is literally a common thing in video games, where they disable your gun when pointing at an NPC you're not allowed to hit and said NPC's response to explosions/etc is to flinch/cower/run instead of dying.
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Feb 16, 2020 21:12
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yes, and going back to my previous post a concern of mine is that despite those locks generally gta clones are buggy to the point where they are easily broken/abused and only useful in a superficial way and given how lovely disney license games usually are i am not under the assumption this would be an exception
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Feb 16, 2020 21:18
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BiggerBoat posted:
I think the Wonderful 101 is basically a GL game. I mean, no one can fly, but beating up enemies by forming a bunch of weapons and other crazy poo poo? That's GL, baby.
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Feb 16, 2020 21:26
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I don't really get the open world appeal for Punisher. He doesn't have any interesting traversal gameplay and he's a character who's more about planned missions than roaming around finding robbers to perforate. He works better with regular levels that can be meticulously designed and balanced for gunplay and setting traps and environmental attacks. I never played it but the PS2 game seems like it had the right idea.
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Feb 16, 2020 21:32
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A "proper" modern Punisher game would be basically the same as Hitman, except the emphasis is on making sure there won't be any civilian casualties. You study, infiltrate, evac noncombatants, and then go after everyone left in the building with a giant gently caress-off machine gun.
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Feb 16, 2020 21:36
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I'm kind of baffled that there is no game that is just Hitman x GTA. I like Hitman conceptually but a lot of times the missions are just too deliberately paced, and GTA on other hand has needed an injection of dynamism into the way it's missions play out for a long rear end time. I get that those guys like recreating movie stuff, but it's kind of making a waste of the whole "sandbox" concept. Hell, you could even throw some Mordor in there by having the security for your targets get upgraded depending on how you perform.
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Feb 16, 2020 21:46
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OnimaruXLR posted:I'm kind of baffled that there is no game that is just Hitman x GTA. I like Hitman conceptually but a lot of times the missions are just too deliberately paced, and GTA on other hand has needed an injection of dynamism into the way it's missions play out for a long rear end time. I get that those guys like recreating movie stuff, but it's kind of making a waste of the whole "sandbox" concept. Saints Row, and probably GTA itself I'd think, has assassination side missions. Many are setup so that there's a gimmick you can use, but you can also just use anything in the game. There's also Assassin's Creed of course.
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Feb 16, 2020 22:49
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Punisher would be best with a small open world, and a single night mission. Basically Arkham City but with very different combat. Hell make it a defenders game with MK, Luke Cage, etc game play similar to how the Arkham games added in night wing and others
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Feb 16, 2020 23:04
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BiggerBoat posted:Yeah that seems like a no brainer but you'd have to add some element to it that makes it "The Punisher" rather than just another GTA clone. I'd picture something more along the lines of Splinter Cell or MGS than GTA but something that that uses different gangs and corrupt cops taking over areas of a city I could see. It would have to more tactical than GTA and involve more stealth and sniping and poo poo. It’s kind of a Max Payneish, dive and shoot. I haven’t played it since high school, but I had a ton of fun with it.
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Feb 16, 2020 23:23
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The Hitman/Punisher approach sounds like a pretty good idea actually but you'd need more cover based shootouts and tactical gunfire. The whole idea with Hitman is not being seen and being subtle. When I think Punisher I think some of that but also several instances of total mayhem. Maybe do the Hitman approach with getting in but then having to shoot your way out. Which, to be fair, some Hitman levels do turn into if you gently caress up enough but that's not the general idea behind the missions.
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Feb 17, 2020 00:19
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For a Punisher game rip off Raid/Dredd. Frank goes to a building but it’s a trap by the kingpin or whoever and the whole place is flooded with bad guys. Make it semi open world within the building or more of a Castlevania approach where you build a larger and larger arsenal. So Arkham Asylum rather than City I guess
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Feb 17, 2020 00:33
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I'm not an expert, but from what I remember he doesn't start a ton of fire fights in populated areas anyways.
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Feb 17, 2020 00:36
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The Punisher game will take place entirely in the warehouse district, after hours.
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Feb 17, 2020 01:07
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OnimaruXLR posted:I'm kind of baffled that there is no game that is just Hitman x GTA. I like Hitman conceptually but a lot of times the missions are just too deliberately paced, and GTA on other hand has needed an injection of dynamism into the way it's missions play out for a long rear end time. It's because the two gameplay models are basically opposites. Hitman levels are very carefully constructed to allow for multiple possible approaches, all of which were at least partially anticipated by the designer. The GTA model of open-world game--see also the Ubisoft model--is very carelessly constructed, because the goal is specifically to create unplanned, dynamic events. (In general, Hitman makes more sense if you consider that most of the time, it's a puzzle game with action sequences as a sort of failure state.) To blend the two approaches, you'd basically be talking about making a Hitman game set in a single city-wide level with a potential for random events, which is not going to be something you could realistically achieve within a decent time frame in a standard working environment. That's the kind of project you kick down the road until you can tell your network of slave AIs to "make it that way."
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Feb 17, 2020 02:27
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BiggerBoat posted:Moon Knight - I just love MK so give me an Arkham game with him with more brutal combat, some torture elements and maybe add some levels with the alter egos where you have to drive a cab for a little bit or sneak around as Marc Spector at some big corporate party or a bad guy's mansion. You could do some cool levels with Egyptian tombs and werewolves and poo poo. I dunno. What the gently caress?
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Feb 17, 2020 04:06
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How Wonderful! posted:What the gently caress? Punisher had em.
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Feb 17, 2020 04:52
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Oh, well if the Punisher did it.
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Feb 17, 2020 06:14
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You wouldn't want to do something morally ambiguous in a video game about a morally ambiguous character.
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Feb 17, 2020 06:15
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I mean to be fair the Batman games have torture elements. Remember crushing the guy under the Batmobile wheel?
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Feb 17, 2020 06:16
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ImpAtom posted:I mean to be fair the Batman games have torture elements. Remember crushing the guy under the Batmobile wheel? Yeah, modern gritty Batman sort of makes Moon Knight's "what if Batman was a psychopath" stuff less compelling.
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Feb 17, 2020 06:18
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Sometimes you need to shove a dude head first into a piranha tank in a video game, and that's okay.
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Feb 17, 2020 06:43
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Everybody has a different line I guess, all of that feels like the opposite of fun or tasteful to me. Although I hate it when characters do that kind of poo poo in the comics too, which I'm aware is something of an arbitrary distinction when I'm all in on punches and kicks and all that but it is what it is.
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Feb 17, 2020 07:20
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I know this is stretching it on the comic books reference, but I want a Half-Twisted Metal Half-Fortnite/CoD style Transfomers game.
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Feb 18, 2020 15:13
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Lurdiak posted:You wouldn't want to do something morally ambiguous in a video game about a morally ambiguous character. Yes, please give me a videogame where instead of fast paced combat I have to mash X to torture somebody. Sounds fun as hell.
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Feb 19, 2020 23:35
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Jagermonster posted:Yes, please give me a videogame where instead of fast paced combat I have to mash X to torture somebody. Sounds fun as hell. Man I hated that Trevor section in gta v (and Trevor in general). I also hated "No Russian" from cod mw2. I guess Batman does do some terrible stuff over Arkham trilogy but my mind just glosses over it because Batman.
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Feb 20, 2020 00:09
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"You must do this bad thing to proceed in the video game that we want you to buy and play" "Okay." "How dare you do the bad thing, this is morally complex."
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Feb 20, 2020 00:10
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Yeah, Spec Ops kicked rear end
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Feb 20, 2020 02:16
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Jagermonster posted:Yes, please give me a videogame where instead of fast paced combat I have to mash X to torture somebody. Sounds fun as hell. Worked in Bayonetta.
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Feb 20, 2020 02:22
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To veer off this, I would personally like a Damage Control game that's like a more PG/PG-13 Viscera Cleanup Detail, having to clean up after the big super-battles are already over. Failing that, an Xcom-like where you command SHIELD mooks, just starting out with regular soldier-mans but quickly upgrading them with cybernetics/vibranium gadgets//some kinda magic stuff/other comic-booky things.
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Feb 20, 2020 11:40
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A strategy game where you play as Doctor Doom controlling your dozens of Doombots as they set up an elaborate plan that will finally best that blasted Richards.
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Feb 20, 2020 12:03
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Crowetron posted:A strategy game where you play as Doctor Doom controlling your dozens of Doombots as they set up an elaborate plan that will finally best that blasted Richards. Are all the plans launching the Baxter Building into space?
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Crowetron posted:A strategy game where you play as Doctor Doom controlling your dozens of Doombots as they set up an elaborate plan that will finally best that blasted Richards. no one controls doom!!! 
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