|
I’m not a good father. There is something ridiculous in asserting my dignity which I resist automatically. My teenage son identifies with this undermining of my own authority. When he was 14, I was mad at him and used a vulgar expression in Slovenian: “Let the dog gently caress your mother.” He replied: “That already happened 15 years ago. That’s how I was born.” Link
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 19:09 |
|
|
# ? Dec 3, 2024 17:46 |
|
And his name was Albert Einstein
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 19:12 |
|
Slavoj is wearing mostly fur. To his right, on the floor, is the headpiece of a dog costume, which is upturned and rather pungent. Slavoj’s face is a blinking slab of clay looking out through thickets of drenched grey hair. His mouth is moving rapidly, but he has not spoken in several minutes. His immense mind is swelling palpably. At some point, a sound like a stalled car engine echoes through the elevator, and the whole scene slips down several feet. One of the men in the corner screams. Slavoj, in a kind of perversely hygienic zen state, is unperturbed. The intercom crackles and buzzes, then clicks off. A set of emergency strip lights perks up. One of the smartly dressed people steps cautiously toward the center of the elevator to try and peer through the doors. Slavoj quickly grabs the man with one paw and his own nose with the other. “Birds,” he spits. The man gasps and slaps hysterically at Zizek’s thick fur arm. “We say, you know, like animals, like this, birds,” Zizek says. His grip is jaw-like. “Oh we are animals, we are animals. We are birds trapped. This is vulgar.” Zizek lets go in order to swat at his own eyeball and tug his own nose simultaneously. The liberated man tumbles backward into his smartly-dressed fellows, who are now stacked more tightly than before. “Obscene,” Zizek notes, squinting at the carpet. “Of course in this film, the Dark Knight Ascending or whatever, you know, you have this wealthy industrialist, stockholder, whatever, who dresses up in an obscene costume, to look like a bat. And then you have a cat woman, and so on, and so on.” Zizek is interrupted by a pen that somebody has thrown at his face. “Don’t, no,” one of the persons whispers. “Violence,” Zizek conjectures. He is gathering fresh thoughts and chewing on them. “Is he talking about the new Batman movie?” one of them asks. Nobody answers. “But the mainstream you know critical response is that this is a very serious film. It is such bull poo poo. But this, I claim, is ideology. That we do not notice that our characters are dressed like animals, doing, you know, insane things, with violence and technology and so forth, and we applaud, say, yes, this is real, this is the real world, finally, thank god.” Zizek is creeping toward the corner. The three smartly-dressed persons are keeping pace, sliding across the elevator wall to another corner. One of the persons stretches out and slaps the emergency alarm bell one more time, just before it is out of reach. “Why not? Why do we not see it? The world that Christopher Nolan, who has made this film, wants to paint for us, he does not hide it at all. The background is the centerpiece, you know, the lower classes and criminals and so on, fighting the plutocracy, this is not simply the world that the animal people live in. It is actually their story, they talk about it, so we cannot see it except as they do. Very stupid.” Zizek’s head suddenly shakes left and right very rapidly. Swarms of baby sweat beads burst off his facial hair and float away. “I think that, you know,” Zizek continues, excitedly plucking at his nose, “a tension between the characters, you know, living their own lives, and so on, and the world that they do not notice. This is the world as it really is, you know, these are stories that happen. The stories about us cannot exist without the world we live in, but we don’t worry about so much. We worry about, my god, my wife, you know, she cheats on me with the senator, or whatever.” Zizek laughs. “Is he… married?” one of the smartly-dressed persons asks, their hand raised to their mouth. “So this grand operatic play, drama, film, where the hero is one society and the villain is another society, you know, but really they are a bat person and some kind of robot man, my god, give me a break. It is disgusting. But there is another irony, you know. This Bruce Wayne, the philanthropist playboy et cetera with such business acumen, he is not real to the film. He is like a ruse. And really it is when he is unmasked, when you know the situation gets bad, that he puts on a simple physical mask but becomes what we really already know of ourselves. He is then this violent,” Zizek pauses here to ruffle his own hair madly, “insensate, raving lunatic who climbs buildings and frightens criminals and whatever. This I claim. Let me start, with, an example, which may surprise you.” But Zizek is interrupted as the elevator creaks again and seems to very slowly lurch sideways. Then, with a terrible whipcrack, everything drops another ten feet or so. The elevator stops again with a deafening clang, then settles, groaning. Zizek has lost his balance while the three smartly-dressed persons lean on one another for theirs. Seeing an opportunity, one of the smartly dressed persons kicks Zizek squarely in his tan dog belly, and Zizek tumbles backward, yelling “barbarians!” “Quick!” yells one of the smartly dressed persons. “The maintenance hatch!” And they point to the hatch which, indeed, seems to have come loose.With frankly impressive unspoken coordination, they hoist one another up through the new aperture and on top of the elevator. Two of them make it out. The third man, left in the elevator, is beaten senseless by the force of Zizek’s random kicks and flails. His suit wrecked and ruined, the man collapses backwards, mumbling about indecency. After the other two have reached the top, they spot a ladder that runs some endless length up the shaft. No sooner have they all begun to climb the ladder, however, when they hear a tremendous bang behind them. The elevator has not started to fall again. But, looking back, they see a horrifying dog head peeking out from the top of the elevator, one terrible dog eye fixed on them, the other staring wildly into the dark. Zizek has begun to extricate himself with awful strength. Transfixed, the two smartly dressed persons watch as Zizek pulls himself fully upward, stands triumphantly atop the elevator, and places the dog head over his own shoulders. Now fully costumed, he shakes his entire body. His tail whips at his legs and he begins coughing. “It’s not possible,” one of the smartly dressed persons gasps. Zizek resumes speaking, but his voice is transformed by the dog head. What comes out instead is an absurd, menacing growl, made louder by his desperation to be heard. His hands shoot out from him like the snapping mouths of blind coyotes. “RAGGH BAGGHH GAGHHH,” he bellows. The two smartly dressed persons nearly kick one another in their desperation to climb away. Zizek too leaps onto the ladder, and not a moment too soon. As soon as he bounds off of it, the elevator finally gives way, scraping down the seemingly infinite shaft and screaming the entire way. Zizek is kicked in the face, and his dog head flies off. Its gaze does not relent as it disappears into the shaft’s inscrutable pit. “I think I cannot imagine a better example of ideology,” Zizek explains, completely undeterred. The two smartly-dressed persons are nearly choked by the toxic odor that rises from Zizek. “Rise, rise,” Zizek mimics, “and so on. But what does this mean, rise.” Somewhere far up the ladder, a short burst of light cracks the tunnel. “So when the film presents its own ideology, and of course, is so awful that it makes a mockery of itself and of the audience, we are most noble as animals, and so on, how do you stand even further back and say, what is the real ideology that the film is based on. And I say then, look at how the characters are rewarded for their actions, the archetypes they embody, and so on.” The smartly dressed person at the top stops and clutches his stomach. “I can’t breathe,” he says. “I can’t breathe. We’ve got to slow down.” Zizek refuses to stop, although he does not address the complaint. When he meets the second person down, who has also stopped, he simply reaches out and grasps the person’s ankle with his terrible dog hand. Then he yanks hard on it, and the second person’s trousers are ripped off. “Degenerates,” Zizek belches. The second man, now pantsed, pauses to examine himself. In his embarrassment, he loses his grip on the ladder and falls, tumbling down the naked pit, still horrified by the loss of his trousers. The remaining smartly dressed person redoubles their efforts and climbs ever harder. Zizek’s pace remains constant, and with a dancer’s grace, he has incorporated nose tugs and beard slaps into the spaces between steps. “Nolan tries to do something that I think he cannot do, which is to say something by remaining silent. There are a lot of arguments on these degenerate websites you know, newspapers and Huffington Post and so on, about whether the villain is the Occupy Wall Street or the, my god, Mitt Romney’s old company, I mean. Who thinks of these things, I don’t know. But in the film, Nolan leaves it open, what he thinks, he does not say it explicitly, so you know we are left thinking that maybe he is saying something through the story itself, instead of having Batman stand up at the end and say ‘OK, I believe this and this and so on and so on.’” “Have you even seen the movie yet?” asks the smartly-dressed person. “I don’t think it’s been released.” “Vulgar,” Zizek remarks. He continues: “But it is precisely because everything in the film has already been recognized, given significance, by the moral actors in the film, that he cannot do this, because their judgments must then be his, which he hands to us. So either he is saying the obvious, you know, that it is necessary to dress like an animal and beat back the savages, my god, for Nolan, these poor and imprisoned or whatever. Or he is trying to distance himself from that statement by remaining ambiguous, but then only saying nothing.” “My god,” Zizek laughs. “Either it is a disgusting film or it is a very bad film.” The smartly-dressed person pauses to argue with him. “You haven’t seen the loving movie,” he shouts, turning around and hanging onto the ladder with one hand. But Zizek merely tugs at the person’s tie, pulling their face down to Zizek’s. An enormous furry paw caps the man’s head and pulls down what appears to be a toupee until it is obscuring the man’s eyes. Blind, flailing, the man drops off the ladder and hurtles into the pitch-black abyss, still complaining that nobody has seen the movie. “Idiots,” Zizek explains. As he continues to climb the ladder, he speaks at length about the stupidity of Commissioner Gordon, the feminist inversion of the Catwoman, and so on, and so on. Some untold distance down the pit, a dog’s head with long powerful ears nods and blinks and sniffs at the impenetrable air.
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 19:13 |
|
child owned by child
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 19:24 |
|
thread owned by vote
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 19:28 |
|
I didn't know Morally Inept was Slovenian
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 19:39 |
|
The hills come alive with the sound of a collective, "huh? Well, ok"
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 19:40 |
|
how will CineD handle their comparisons of sausage party to the cambodian genocide now in the face of this ownage?!?!
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 20:11 |
|
Fat Shat Sings posted:how will CineD handle their comparisons of sausage party to the cambodian genocide now in the face of this ownage?!?!
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 20:13 |
|
get that OUT of my face posted:has anyone ever gone to CD and pointed out the belief among internet tankies that Zizek is a CIA psyop? what is a psyop also, how bad is CD as a discussion forum that they needed to make another forum to talk about movies edit:...he said, gesturing wildly towards BYOB
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 20:56 |
|
Danger posted:I’m not a good father. There is something ridiculous in asserting my dignity which I resist automatically. My teenage son identifies with this undermining of my own authority. When he was 14, I was mad at him and used a vulgar expression in Slovenian: “Let the dog gently caress your mother.” He replied: “That already happened 15 years ago. That’s how I was born.” SupermechaGodzilla then writes a million word post about how you just don't get it
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 20:58 |
|
God own, but don't know these chaps.
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 21:03 |
I guess he... works from home
|
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 21:08 |
|
is this thread another alt right thing where all the alt righters in gbs complain about a person who nobody normal knows about? gonna assume so and not check back seeya
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 21:20 |
|
A misanthrope posted:is this thread another alt right thing where all the alt righters in gbs complain about a person who nobody normal knows about? I'm quite a Zizek fan but I am also just a fan of teenagers owning their parents.
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 21:31 |
|
slagoff jizzek
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 21:34 |
|
I've read more words by SMG than zizzek, so I know a thing or two.
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 22:41 |
|
I once dated a girl. Well I've dated a few girls but this is about a specific girl. The first time we had sex she starting talking about how she fantasized about loving her own father. I was like OK cool that's weird but whatever gets you off and kept givin it to her. Then she tells me she wants me to film her getting done by a dog. a huge dog, like a mastif, and I was like well thats pretty hosed up in my head but also drat I'm already this far in. So I finished and drove her home and never talked to her again. On the ride home she confirmed that yes she really wants to do it and it wasn't some heat of the moment passion thing. So long story short this was a few years ago and I might have a kid who has a mom who wants to gently caress dogs.
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 22:43 |
|
Fat Shat Sings posted:how will CineD handle their comparisons of sausage party to the cambodian genocide now in the face of this ownage?!?! When you look at what the text actually says, the son was saying Zizek is the coolest. His son was only owning him ironically, because capitalism is the decoherence of market information given form. Which you'd know if you'd ever watched Transformers 3: Dark of the Moon (Bay, Micheal 2011). Strategic Tea fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Dec 15, 2016 |
# ? Dec 15, 2016 22:53 |
|
Dave Concepcion posted:I guess he... works from home
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 22:58 |
|
Sad Bratwurst Pug owned by life
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 23:00 |
|
i am emphatically in favor of this shitshaming of slavoj let the man be rolled in poo poo and piss, down a steep hill, and no one will ask him is he ok at the bottom
|
# ? Dec 15, 2016 23:41 |
|
A misanthrope posted:is this thread another alt right thing where all the alt righters in gbs complain about a person who nobody normal knows about? Actually the zizek fans are more on the "bernie bro" side of the spectrum
|
# ? Dec 16, 2016 00:04 |
|
ArbitraryC posted:Actually the zizek fans are more on the "bernie bro" side of the spectrum which means anyone who disagrees with them must be an alt right investment banking NSA agent
|
# ? Dec 16, 2016 00:12 |
|
zizek is really good that long rear end post is also really good and apparent zizek son is quite good as well peace
|
# ? Dec 16, 2016 03:55 |
|
get that OUT of my face posted:has anyone ever gone to CD and pointed out the belief among internet tankies that Zizek is a CIA psyop? What's a tankie
|
# ? Dec 16, 2016 04:22 |
|
pop fly to McGillicutty posted:SupermechaGodzilla then writes a million word post about how you just don't get it I think that's because he's the only philosopher he can name BIG PUFFY NIPS posted:zizek is really good that long rear end post is also really good and apparent zizek son is quite good as well Zizek is ok but he's mostly a pop culture figure. hes not a particularly distinguished academic
|
# ? Dec 16, 2016 04:23 |
|
Zizek is a gross moron who nobody takes seriously and who says really Bad things about trans people and gays
|
# ? Dec 16, 2016 04:40 |
|
zizek is actually a pretty solid writer but no one knows it because everyone i know including all of you who are about to lie, doctors biologists etc spend more time clicking on youtubes than reading books he also is unfortunately going to live his entire life selling more books, bumper sticks and so on, and sometimes ruins a talk with a sentence like "now is the time for thinking, we should all just think now and not act" imagine what he imagined he would do if given this kind of an audience if you described his current fame to him when he was a young communist soldier in the army
|
# ? Dec 16, 2016 04:46 |
|
butterbar posted:Zizek is ok but he's mostly a pop culture figure. hes not a particularly distinguished academic yeah cause academia is just churning out good thinkers right now you know like
|
# ? Dec 16, 2016 05:29 |
|
butterbar posted:What's a tankie I think that's a sort of slang for Stalinist?
|
# ? Dec 16, 2016 05:45 |
|
butterbar posted:What's a tankie it's a holdover from cold war days when the Soviets violently suppressed revolts in Czechoslovakia and Hungary. "tankies" were the lefties who didn't think sending tanks against civilians was a big deal (or even thought it was cool and good) as long as it was the commies doing it i think in the modern context it basically describes people who are so fervently anti-USA/western that they basically say everyone who disagrees with them is an imperialist stooge and every institution is a CIA front of some sort. the kind of person who would essentially argue that people have a duty to tolerate any degree of oppression or brutality from their government as long as it is even somewhat in opposition to The Great Satan, Amerikkka
|
# ? Dec 16, 2016 05:56 |
|
Lunchmeat Larry posted:Zizek is a gross moron who nobody takes seriously and who says really Bad things about trans people and gays
|
# ? Dec 16, 2016 06:10 |
|
A misanthrope posted:is this thread another alt right thing where all the alt righters in gbs complain about a person who nobody normal knows about? is this post another A misanthrope thing where he storms into every single thread no matter how unrelated in order to complain about the loving stupid and irrelevant internet villains du jour of course it is
|
# ? Dec 16, 2016 06:22 |
|
butterbar posted:Zizek is ok but he's mostly a pop culture figure. hes not a particularly distinguished academic Hahah imagine being this basic
|
# ? Dec 16, 2016 06:29 |
|
I'm Crap posted:is this post another A misanthrope thing where he storms into every single thread no matter how unrelated in order to complain about the loving stupid and irrelevant internet villains du jour yeah
|
# ? Dec 16, 2016 06:33 |
|
I don't exist I promise
|
# ? Dec 16, 2016 06:35 |
|
Nigmaetcetera posted:I don't exist neither do i. just ask my wife! hahahahahahfahaha jk im not married
|
# ? Dec 16, 2016 06:42 |
|
extra stout posted:zizek is actually a pretty solid writer but no one knows it because everyone i know including all of you who are about to lie, doctors biologists etc spend more time clicking on youtubes than reading books Heh, amusingly enough the only way to appreciate zizek is to watch him speak on youtube. Because if you try to read him it becomes immediately obvious that he is a hack. Every text you take there is one (or both) of 2 things happening - he makes some sort of really far fetched connection between things without any proof or sources (like "there is enough evidence to believe that ancient egyptians colonized iceland") and than proceeds as if it's a firmly established fact or just drops the whole thing entirely and talks about movies. In addition there is the whole "post-Lacanian" thing. It is awfully convenient for Zizek since he is the foremost authority on Lacan for the simple reason that nobody but him knows or gives a gently caress about Lacan. Referring to Lacanian as some sort of school of thought gives his writings an air of authority as if there is a group of thinkers who approve of his conjecture but utterly falls apart when you realize that Zizek is the only "Lacanian". tl;dr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uh5MB17v9A
|
# ? Dec 16, 2016 06:46 |
|
|
# ? Dec 3, 2024 17:46 |
|
A misanthrope posted:neither do i. just ask my wife! hahahahahahfahaha I have no memory at all of making that post, I feel like somebody has cheated me
|
# ? Dec 16, 2016 06:50 |