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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Hello! Some of you may remember ages ago when I did a SimCity 4 LP. I have been getting the itch to do such a thing again, but a lot has changed since then. Specifically, there was actually a new city builder that isn't a pile of poo poo.

Cities: Skylines is the third game from the Cities in Motion studio, and unlike the other two this one is a full-fledged city builder and not just a transit simulation. It's not without flaws--I think SC4 is still the best of the genre--but it's quite good and benefits from modern technology like proper 3D and curved roads. I have not put nearly the same time into this game as I did SC4, but I figured I should do something different.

This will be a screenshot LP with thread participation. Skylines only allows a single city at a time, no region play, so the thread will be making the major decisions about how our dumb city develops. The old thread was more of looking at bonsai cities, this one is more you guys being the city council.

Table of Contents!





Part 1: January, 1954
Part 2: July, 1954
Part 3: January, 1955
Part 4: January, 1956
Part 5: January, 1957
Part 6: July, 1957




List of Mods:

Adaptive Prop Visibility Distance
Advanced Vehicle Options 1.7.2
All Areas Purchaseable
Ambient Sounds Tuner
Automatic Bulldoze v2
Building Themes
Cinematic Camera Extended 0.5.0
Clouds & Fog Toggler
Daylight Classic
Decal Prop Fix
Demand Master
Dropouts
Dynamic Resolution
EuropeanBuidlingsUnlocker
Extended Public Transit UI (+Trams)
Extra Landscaping Tools
Extra Train Station Tracks
Fine Road Anarchy 1.3.1
Improved Content Manager
Less Steam
Loading Screen Mod [Test]
Local-Only Passenger Stations
LOD Toggler
Metro Overhaul
More Diverse Crowd
Move It! 1.7.4
No Radioactive Desert And More!
NotSoUniqueBuildings (this one doesn't seem to work though)
Ploppable RICO
Prefab Hook
Prop Precision 1.0.1
Remove Decoration Sprites
Remove Need For Pipes
S. Korea Traffic Lights
SimCity Fudged Population
Softer Shadows
Surface Painter
Traffic++ V2
Transport Line Rendering Fix
Ultimate Eyecandy 1.4.2
Vehicle Unbuncher
WG Citizen Lifecycle Rebalance v2.1
WG Realistic Population v8.2.2
WG Resident Travel Rebalance

Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Apr 23, 2017

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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Map Choice!

We have four options for you to choose. All of these are real world maps from South Korea.

First is Daejeon.



The slogan for Daejeon is It's Daejeon, which is an accurate statement and about the most one can say for Daejeon.

Second is Cheongju.



The slogan for Cheongju is Cheongju, the happy city worth living in which makes me wonder if "worth living in" is really the bar you want to set.

Third is Busan.



The slogan for Busan is Dynamic Busan, which... I don't even know what that is. Busan IRL is a nightmare to get around.

Fourth is Miryang.



The slogan for Miryang is Miryang is also the city of cultural tourist destination and superb cultural relics and picturesque places combined with beautiful nature because I don't think they know what slogan means.

I would ever so slightly put my thumb on the scale for Daejeon but it's up to you! Voting will go a few days because it's Christmas.

Also this thread already has a break planned: I will be away on vacation for a few weeks starting in mid January, but we will have a updates before then and resuming after. Vote away!

SkyTalon2314
Aug 8, 2013

Woo. This should be interesting to see.


As far as what to vote for, I would go for Daejeon in the end. I think it looks the nicest and wouldn't be a nightmare to build with. Though Busan has the advantage of opening up to the sea, for ports, but IDR if that's even really a thing in this game compared to other City Sims. It's been... a long time since I've played this game.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


There are ports but they're not a huge deal. Much like SC4, the actual game part of the game isn't particularly difficult, but the more advanced and complex traffic simulation does mean it plays a lot differently. Optimizing traffic is the largest chunk of the gameplay. Not too surprising given the studio's past.

Bacarruda
Mar 30, 2011

Mutiny!?! More like "reinterpreted orders"
Having also gotten lost in Busan, I would like inflict the same misery on millions of sim-Koreans.

Kanthulhu
Apr 8, 2009
NO ONE SPOIL GAME OF THRONES FOR ME!

IF SOMEONE TELLS ME THAT OBERYN MARTELL AND THE MOUNTAIN DIE THIS SEASON, I'M GOING TO BE PISSED.

BUT NOT HALF AS PISSED AS I'D BE IF SOMEONE WERE TO SPOIL VARYS KILLING A LANISTER!!!


(Dany shits in a field)
Voting Miryang for the best slogan.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
I've been to Korea once. Busan sticks out in my mind from the trip.

Warmal
Aug 12, 2011

Some rivers will allow for ports as well. There's no penalty to how many ships come in, they can be rather bugged actually. So I'll put my 2 cents into Daejeon.

Dinictus
Nov 26, 2005

May our CoX spray white sticky fluid at our enemies forever!
HAIL ARACHNOS!
Soiled Meat

Kanthulhu posted:

Voting Miryang for the best slogan.

Especially if you can somehow put in some buildings that add old-looking temples and districts to contrast with newer styled amenities and high rise construction. Definitely voting Miryang.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Dinictus posted:

Especially if you can somehow put in some buildings that add old-looking temples and districts to contrast with newer styled amenities and high rise construction. Definitely voting Miryang.

I do have various Asian buildings to use, including a bunch of temples and stuff.

Pennfalath
Sep 10, 2011

Why are these teenagers not at home studying their Latin vocabulary?
Daejeon

Also, are you using any mods (such as buy more city locations than normal)? Which dlc do you have? I have the base game, but this LP will probably encourage me to play it again.

ultrabindu
Jan 28, 2009
Daejon is the place to be.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I have a poo poo-ton of buildings and a bunch of mods. Larger map, various fixes for traffic and whatnot. I'll post the list when I have all the ones I want added.

DLC wise I have After Dark and Snowfall. I pick them up as they go on sale so the disaster DLC will come eventually.

Jimmy4400nav
Apr 1, 2011

Ambassador to Moonlandia
Lets build Busan and make the North Koreans pay for it!

FailAtMagic
Apr 11, 2011
Daejon maybe you can show me how to deal with collecting dead people without building a billion crematories

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things
It's Daejon is the clear choice here.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe
Busan , will there be a train to it?

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

Advanced
Computer Touching


Toilet Rascal
Which of these is most suitable for hydro power production? Because that's the one I'm voting for, for reasons which should be obvious to anyone who's played this.

McKilligan
May 13, 2007

Acey Deezy
Let's go with Busan. I like coastal cities! Too bad my own area isn't one of the options, but Anyang is more of a sub city of Seoul than its own city anyway.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Busan

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
Cheongju.

Let's see if we can make a happy city that goes against the slogan.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
Busan.

Let's close the pocket.

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.
Miryang is also the city of cultural tourist destination and superb cultural relics and picturesque places combined with beautiful nature.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.
Miryang

Looks like a good mix of terrain types.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

Cheongju Because surely we can make a city better than just happy, RIGHT GUYS? R(GHT?

Aquasnake
Jan 30, 2013

"I... I did well, didn't I?"
I vote Cheongju.

Because citizens willing to move to a city with such a low self esteem motto should be easy for the city council to manipulate.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


With a slogan like that how can anyone vote for anything but [b]Miryang[b]

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER
We'll show Miryang what slogan really means!

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Go with Miryang and name everything like that slogan.

Does anyone have a link to the SC4 lp?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


RBA Starblade posted:

Does anyone have a link to the SC4 lp?

It's still accessible, wow. Thought it'd be in archives by now. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3410697

Here's some other winning Korean city slogans:

Aha! Suncheon
Central Gimcheon
Diversity Pocheon
Good Chungju
I.Seoul.U
Just Sangju
O2 Gunpo
Top Gochang
Wonderfull Samcheok
Yes! Uiwang

I also decided the thread will be somewhat themed, it's not going to be storytelling like the old SC3000 one but we're going to start it as 1953, the Korean War has just ended and we're rebuilding. I will limit the technology as appropriate as we go through time. And for each year I'll throw in some Korean history of the time.

Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Dec 24, 2016

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Thanks, it's always fun to look at better cities than mine come together.

ultrabindu
Jan 28, 2009

Grand Fromage posted:

It's still accessible, wow. Thought it'd be in archives by now. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3410697

Did you not get in touch with the lparchive boys to get it added?

Does SC4 run well on multi core machines? How does it compare to Cities:Skylines! ?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


ultrabindu posted:

Did you not get in touch with the lparchive boys to get it added?

Does SC4 run well on multi core machines? How does it compare to Cities:Skylines! ?

I know not of this lparchive.

SC4 doesn't use multiple cores and is crashy on it, you have to set it to only use a single core to increase the stability. That's part of the problem, it's just so old and they never released the source code to do a fan update. It was always kind of fiddly and it has real issues working and doesn't take advantage of any of the advances in computer hardware of the past decade. Skylines runs much better.

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender
Voting Miryang. It looks prettiest, which is the most important factor in a C:S map.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Miryang, because it looks a bit swampy in that screenshot.

ultrabindu
Jan 28, 2009

Grand Fromage posted:

I know not of this lparchive.

Don't lie to me big cheese. :argh:

Sjs00
Jun 29, 2013

Yeah Baby Yeah !
Busan because the ocean is cool

Ofaloaf
Feb 15, 2013

If we want one good map to play with, it's Daejeon. Good amount of open spaces, and a solid, flowing river that'll happily take away all the sewage I'm sure will be dumped into it.


What mods are you intending to run with?

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I fight with
my brain
and with an
underlying
hatred of the
Erebonian
Noble Faction

quote:

Second is Cheongju.



The slogan for Cheongju is Cheongju, the happy city worth living in which makes me wonder if "worth living in" is really the bar you want to set.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_South_Korea
:smith:

I'll vote for Daejeon because that's a lot of river and that's more visually interesting to me.

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KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat
I am so GODDAMNED nostalgic for Daejeon . I still remember going down a backstreet somewhere in there and ending up in a fancy toilet museum.

It's Daejeon is the perfect slogan for that city in the center of the sticks. Superhigh density apartments next to corrugated tin shacks.

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