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Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
The most glaring/disgusting racism in the PNW(specifically WA because I don't really have experience in other PNW states) exists as economic divides that stands out mostly when you look at where people live. When I was working in Seattle, I worked in an office that was almost entirely white. I was one of two latino dudes. They hired a gay black dude once, he was there maybe a week. The office was pretty much only comfortable for the straight white male stereotype.

That Seattle is any better in terms of racial diversity and acceptance is one of those myths.

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Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

anthonypants posted:

Allegedly this is the guy who got shot in Seattle https://www.youcaring.com/joshdukes-741490

and apparently the guy who shot him is claiming self defense and wasn't charged by the police?

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
Trump supporter shot up a shop in downtown Oly inauguration night

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

anthonypants posted:

Seattle Times has named the victim, but not the shooter, out of their respect for fascism. Remarkably, they also printed this:

Even after he and the IWW supposedly asked he not be named in the press. Someone better release the name of this shooter.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2017/01/24/uw-shooter-identified/

quote:

Marc Hokoana, age 29, a known pro-gun activist, can be seen in video and still photographs at the scene shooting a protester. Hokoana is originally from Lacey, WA and graduated from Timberline High School in 2006. He is also a UW alumnus. He appears to be living in Lacey currently.

But really, we should just listen to what these people have to say. We shouldn't call this shooting violence and we should keep level heads when reporting on this incident and give everyone the benefit of the doubt. sarcasm

Doorknob Slobber fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Jan 25, 2017

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Mr. Lobe posted:

I saw that piece of poo poo trying to start things earlier! I bet he went to that event just waiting for an excuse to shoot someone.

you should email the ag or whatever that info could change attempted manslaughter to attempted murder if I understand law correctly

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

anthonypants posted:

Here's a list of Washington initiatives you don't want to sign petitions for, if you live in Washington: https://www.sos.wa.gov/elections/initiatives/Initiatives.aspx?y=2017&t=p

if you see a petition sign a big ol' gently caress YOU on there

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
IWW released another statement on the shooting The media has been absolutely hosed up on this subject.

I don't understand why our institutions serve to protect the victimizer in situations like this rather than the victim.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
There are some groups working for cool poo poo here in WA for people interested. I don't have a link, but I've heard talk of ranked choice voting and also a public bank bill thats getting a hearing in Oly.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

coyo7e posted:

I heard there's some people in Eugene who've totally got a lockdown on getting trump kicked out of office - but dude it's late and I am tired and walking home from the bar I heard that poo poo at so y'all need to look it up yourself - if you're interested.

oh yea is there a bill in the oregon senate for that? is it getting a hearing people can go to and voice their opinions?

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
Ranked Choice Voting for WA

Take that, guy who complained I didn't provide a link.

Doorknob Slobber fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Feb 8, 2017

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

the escape goat posted:

the fact that dude had 5 magazines on him is batshit. there's no reason to have 70 rounds on you unless you're in a war zone.

or you want to shoot 70 unarmed, peaceful protesters

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

coyo7e posted:

sources besides your rear end, please

The page where you can donate to his medical bills is the source:

https://www.crowdrise.com/medical-fundraiser-for-iww-and-gdc-member-shot-in-seattle

quote:

UPDATED: PLEASE DONATE ANONYMOUSLY. ALT-RIGHT TROLLS ARE COLLECTING INFORMATION.

https://www.crowdrise.com/fundraiser/campaign-updates/1173948#!/status/4

There was an article that popped up in my twitter feed a day or two ago that linked to the original alt-right website/tweet that said it was collecting info and called on people to help doxxing, but I can't find it any more unfortunately.

therobit posted:

What does this even mean? Should I be afraid someone will find out if I donate money to someone's medical expenses? What possible harm could xome from that?

The notion is the alt-right gets your information and then threatens to do physical harm to you. The question of whether or not anyone follows through is up in the air.


vv - well there ya go. I've taken every precaution I can think of to not get doxxed by these idiots and hopefully I don't ever end up having to move.

Doorknob Slobber fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Feb 14, 2017

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

anthonypants posted:

Did you forget that the guy you're talking about was shot, with a gun, and that the shooter has faced literally zero consequences

Yeah but there is a difference between getting shot at a protest by a guy who went out looking for trouble and someone tracking you down to your home where your wife and kids live and shooting all of you, which to my knowledge, hasn't happened yet. I'm not saying ones not bad, I'm just saying I don't think the alt-right has followed through on any of its specific death threats. (yet)

Mr. Lobe posted:

He is also a current student. To my knowledge, and I have been a fairly close observer of this sequence of events, he has not even faced any administrative penalties.

And this poo poo is extremely hosed up. It wasn't even widely reported in the media, and the little it was reported, it was done in a way that seemed to place blame on the victim. Yet when antifa groups break a windows its the end of the loving world.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
On the one hand prosecutor probably better. But as IWW's release said, noted socialist, activist and city council person Kshama Sawant should be publicly calling that poo poo out too

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
Gross. There is a pro Trump rally in Oly on the 4th and the MAGAs are planning on 'packing heat' to protect themselves from 'violent liberals' this is how the civil war starts, not trump, not bannon, these idiots in the streets believing fake news and shooting unarmed activists.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Relevant Tangent posted:

White people who kill other white people aren't getting away with poo poo though. If black bloc or others show up, the redhats will back down.

their permit says 500-1000 people, but I'll be surprised if there are twenty MAGAs, and the time/place of the event is already being posted all over antifa and anarchist website for the area. I stand by saying this is how the civil war starts. Our politicians are big babies who can't do poo poo, but if ignorant right wing gun nuts start getting trigger happy, it can only go on so long before both groups go to these things with guns. (if things continue the way they are.)

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

anthonypants posted:

Huh. First time I'm hearing of this. Source for this claim?

They did arrest that dude who had the gun and 70 rounds of ammo at the blm protest down in portland, he was even convicted.

Mr. Lobe posted:

Lotta nazi posters were put up last night on UW campus. This isn't the first time. It angers me that they are becoming bolder.

this is hosed up, I wish I still lived up there, I'd wander the campus at night watching for these fucks to take pictures of them

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

anthonypants posted:

Portland is not Olympia, and Michael Strickland is by far the exception and not the rule. There was even a shooting in UW that happened really recently that you should probably check up on.

Testy, testy. seattle is not olympia either, but I am aware of recent events.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
california can hang out in cascadia after the revolution but it wont ever be PNW

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
looking at history is fun to find precedence for things, but also sometimes things don't happen until they happen. Like computers or cell phones.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

GodFish posted:

Sorry, going to pull a coyo7e and ask for a source on this one, I put up a warning and some idiots I know are losing their minds about the lack of citation and I'd dearly love to shut them up with a link.




wanted to include these here for other people to see

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
The 'militia' and 'private security' parts worry me a bit, but we'll see I guess. Debating whether to go in street medic or camera mode to this one. Kind of want to put faces to some of these right wing militia and private security idiots

Doorknob Slobber fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Feb 20, 2017

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

HEY NONG MAN posted:

What do you even wear to differentiate yourself as a medic or a journo?

I'd be worried people would gently caress you up regardless of why you were there.

I just wear my normal clothes, but like its too much stuff to have to worry about everything. I like to go to protests light as it is and carrying a backpack full of medic stuff and a camera is just a bit much. Maybe I'm just a wimp.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
http://www.seattleweekly.com/news/dont-shoot-anyone-another-video-of-uw-shooting-suspect-surfaces/

quote:

In this newly uncovered video, one can see Elizabeth immediately at the bottom left of the screen donning brunette pigtails, and a dark brown, puffy jacket with a fur hood. As the cameraperson walks forward, Marc can be seen facing toward the protester line in a dark leather jacket with a brown hoodie underneath (0:08 in the video). The camera then pans and follows him as he walks toward Elizabeth (0:13).

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
Pink hats and masks and shaking cops hands, Liberal Anarchy.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

coyo7e posted:

holy poo poo, I clicked on that march 4 trump facebook thing and the first name I moused over lists himself as having attended "The Big Daddy School of Street Knowledge and Hard Knocks".

I'm not going anywhere near wherever these people congregate - they sound like school drop outs and violent criminals

I went to a counter protest today. A couple counter protesters were arrested and one got punched in the face. Meanwhile the Trump peeps walking around with their penis extension devices, and a loving surveillance nest on top of a nearby building. Emotions were high, but my take now having 'faced off' against a mass of tumpers is that they're a bunch of scared white people.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

xrunner posted:

What happened to the puncher? No arrest?

No arrest. Not sure if anything has happened since then. Though I doubt police seek out punchers.

Doorknob Slobber fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Mar 5, 2017

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

xrunner posted:

Interesting. None of the media reports I've seen have anything about it. Did it happen in an out of the way area? If a Trump supporter got punched they'd be giving it a lot of coverage and talking about the violent left...

Yeah, I've got no idea why no one is picking anything up. All I've seen in the media is the people being arrested for 'assaulting' a police officer. All I saw was someone knocking over a sign for the 'free speech zone' and then the police attacked them. Like hands around the dude's neck attacked.

The mainstream media was behind the police line though from what I could tell, recording the Trumper's speeches it seemed like.

Doorknob Slobber fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Mar 5, 2017

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
Interview with the IWW street medic dude who was shot. Its sad.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
she pee standing up

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Mr. Lobe posted:

hey on a much more positive note, I'm pretty thrilled about this:

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/activist-nikkita-oliver-to-run-against-mayor-ed-murray/

nothing gives me more delight than thinking about the SPD squirming under a Mayor Oliver. murray's a piece of poo poo (for instance he has consistently refused to stop the homeless sweeps despite city councilors turning on the practice) and I'd be happy to see him go.

whats even more fun is watching king county dems squirm with the notion that seattle might not have a dem mayor

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

anthonypants posted:

He's in Centralia, so,

There is an SA branch at Evergreen in Olympia he should contact. My experience with SA is that it isn't a super 'open' organization and you have to go through a bunch of poo poo just to start meeting with people, this was years ago though so it might have changed. There's a DSA group in Olympia as well.

Doorknob Slobber fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Mar 13, 2017

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

anthonypants posted:

In Portland I sat in a couple meetings and had a one-on-one with one of the members and then I started paying dues. Seemed pretty open to me.

I guess maybe there were no meetings here when I was trying to join, I did like a month of one on ones and then the SA dude said they were going to start having bigger meetings and nothing really ever materialized from that.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Lazy_Liberal posted:

can you imagine if folks killed police for brandishing their actual guns. because I can. and it's beautiful :allears:

Yeah. ACAB. gently caress the police. Take away their guns with laws first and then string them up when they complain like little cry baby bitches.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
instead of paying cops anything we should abolish the police

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

RuanGacho posted:

Cool, lets talk about that.

Has it always been the case or did poo poo escalate when Huckabees criminal negligence pardoned a cop killer and had the Seattle PD lose what was it.. 2 or 4 in a random diner?

I think people started really looking at them when they shot that native american dude for no reason

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
I guess there is a racist professor at Evergreen who thinks that he should be able to be racist because he's a 'scientist' and a bunch of students got arrested trying to block him in his office or something today.

http://www.afropunk.com/profiles/blogs/urgent-olympia-wa-students-reportedly-attacked-by-police-for

quote:

At Evergreen State College, a Day Of Absence was supposed to be an intentional day of caucusing to discuss intersectional issues organized by the school’s Director First Peoples Multicultural Advising Services, Rashida N. Love. A normal practice on campus for students, teachers, and staff of color, Love sent a detailed email to staff and faculty alerting them of the upcoming event, its intentions, and sign-up information for those choosing to participate.

This year, the day-long event planned to discuss racism, equity, and inclusion and was set to take place on campus. But in response to her email, professor Bret Weinstein caught up in hurt white feelings and entitlement, believed the event to be a way to marginalize and silence white opinions instead.

Doorknob Slobber fucked around with this message at 05:56 on May 24, 2017

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
there was also a swastika spray painted at evergreen yesterday or the day before. gently caress that dude in the article above that killed two people gently caress all these other nazis closeted 'scientist' nazis or whatever. gently caress them all.

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Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

herbaceous backson posted:

Is there racism at Evergreen, and the PNW as a whole? Of course-you can find shitkickers with confederate flags on their vehicles ten minutes drive from the college campus. This professor doesn't seem to be one of them.

yes. Do you live here? Do you ever step outside the i5 corridor? This place is racist as gently caress. Evergreen isn't the bastion of liberalism that a lot of people think. Anecdotally, one of my friends is a POC and a professor there and according to this person Evergreen is pretty loving lovely at diversity and its something they've been struggling with for a while. Even to the point where they're stressed about going in to work because of it.

From what I've read and heard that professor thinks there is biological reasons to discuss why black people are inferior to white people so gently caress him. I don't care if he's jewish or whatever the gently caress. You can be jewish and still be a stupid nazi/racist gently caress. See Israel.

More racist poo poo in the PNW yesterday.

Here is something another professor at Evergreen wrote on the protests going on there.

quote:

In Solidarity with the Struggle for Racial Justice at the Evergreen State College
by Peter Bohmer
I am writing in solidarity with and support for the student led movement at the Evergreen State College, “Those Who Are Not Often Heard”. The actions and demands from May 23rd to May 26th, 2017 are for the most part, very positive. I hope and trust this important movement will continue to grow, and with the support of many more students, faculty and staff win its demands. What is most significant about this Black-led student movement is the centrality and leadership of Black students, their growing and powerful voice, the growing focus on issues of racism on campus, and a list of demands that make central the needs of Black and other students of color, undocumented immigrants, and LGBT students.
The winning of these demands would lead to a far more inclusive and just campus. Most of the media attention has focused on faculty member, Bret Weinstein, and his supposed mistreatment by some students. Only one of the twelve demands mentions Bret Weinstein, and this demand calls for his suspension, not firing. This movement is about far more than Bret Weinstein.
Bret Weinstein has demonstrated on more than one occasion a very limited understanding of the institutional and systemic racism that continues to be pervasive in U.S. society as the election and program of Donald Trump demonstrates. That he believes in racial justice in an abstract way is not a sufficient excuse. His comments both before and especially on and after, May 23rd, 2017 demonstrate a pattern of not taking seriously the needs and safety of Black students and staff at the Evergreen State College. On Friday, May 26th, Weinstein appeared on Tucker Carlson’s program on Fox News and accepted and did not challenge the misinformation put forward by Carlson, e.g., that whites were forced to leave campus during the “Day of Absence” in April of this year. The focus of this day was learning to understand racism more deeply and how to challenge it. In reality, 200 white students were asked to volunteer, not forced, to leave campus for this discussion, a minor departure from previous years where students, staff and faculty of color had left campus for one day. For this history, see https://www.pdf-archive.com/…/…/doa-emails-1/preview/page/1/. Moreover, on this TV show, Weinstein contributed to the narrative that he was blocked from leaving his classroom when about 50 students entered his classroom on May 23rd to challenge his positions. In actuality he could leave and was not facing any physical threat. Also totally false and irresponsible was his claim that a mob was running the campus last week.
Occasionally, the word safety is overused at Evergreen but an interview such as Weinstein’s on Fox contributes to a climate where the growing numbers of emboldened white supremacists pose a growing and real danger, especially to Black students, staff and faculty. To do such an interview, which furthers the right-wing agenda of Fox, and also societal racism is the height of racial insensitivity. I do not believe that Bret Weinstein should be fired as he is no more racist than the majority of white people and faculty at Evergreen or in the society, but there should be a process where he has to engage in an honest discussion about racism with those most affected by his behavior.
This growing movement which has signed many of their statements as “Those Who Are Not Often Heard”, and the related student activism is very significant and positive. There have been many, although not enough, white students, faculty and staff that have supported this anti-racist movement and our support is commendable although it should deepen and grow in numbers. For those whites who are active daily in the struggle against racism in the United States, we should learn to be supportive and act in solidarity but perhaps not unquestioning support. To me, this means, supporting in actions and not just words, this movement for racial and social justice by showing up and putting our bodies on the line, and accepting and supporting the leadership of Blacks, Latinx, Native and other people of color. I prefer the concept of solidarity or accompaniment to the term, allyship, at least how it is often applied. Solidarity or accompaniment to me, means putting into practice the idea that the struggle for racial justice affects all of us, although not in the same way; and that there should be honest dialog among all participants in this struggle. This is not an argument against Black autonomy or people of color leadership, which I support, but rather for a relationship among all participants that is respectful and participatory. It is important that whites involved in this struggle should not dominate the conversations and space and be humble but our role should be more than just uncritical support.
An important demand that has been addressed by this growing movement is for increased access to this campus by underrepresented and discriminated against groups and to make the Evergreen State College a better learning experience, e.g., for undocumented immigrants. For example, the demand for more financial aid for undocumented immigrants, demand Nine, is crucial. What possibly could also be added is a demand to make Evergreen more accessible to enter and a better learning experience for potential and actual first generation college students. Issues of economic class are sometimes ignored at Evergreen. I suggest that there be explicit demands in addition to what is already expressed for increased recruiting, financial aid and academic support of Blacks, Latinx, Native American and Pacific Islanders, immigrants, first generation college students, and the incarcerated and ex-incarcerated.
In closing, I want to enthusiastically thank those who have participated in this very significant activism for racial and social justice. You are setting a very good example. Thank You! It gives Evergreen the possibility to close the gap between its rhetoric and reality. I do believe that Evergreen has made some improvements in reducing racism in the 30 years I have been here, for example, in hiring more faculty of color, and is probably less racist than the majority of universities in the United States but that is a low standard, and there is a long, long way to go. These events of the last week, May 23rd to May 26th, 2017, have brought into the spotlight the pervasive racism that continues. I urge President George Bridges and the rest of the campus, including the faculty, to commit themselves to supporting and implementing these demands in a period of intense systemic racism in the larger society and politics.
Peter Bohmer, May 29, 2017

On a side note this dude is pretty active in the community, helping people organize and poo poo.

Doorknob Slobber fucked around with this message at 19:14 on May 30, 2017

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