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So heading into the new year, Wrestlemania 33 will start to shape up. While we already know some parts of it (Big Show vs Shaq), and others have been heavily foreshadowed (Seth Rollins vs HHH), a lot of it is unknown. Here's a thread so that you can formulate and book what you think/want Wrestlemania to be, and discuss people's predictions/stupid bullshit. While trying to make this card it really dawned on me the sheer scale of how big the roster is, and many championships there are. I would argue you can't begin to have them all defended on one show. There are some pretty big assumptions on availability here (no Finn, Rock can have a match), and the massive assumption that WWE won't just do the thing of having Goldberg - Brock 3. TL;DR Card Goldberg vs Roman Reigns - Universal Championship AJ Styles vs Bray Wyatt vs Randy Orton vs Dean Ambrose - WWE Championship Undertaker vs John Cena Brock Lesnar vs The Rock Shaq vs Big Show Seth Rollins vs HHH Charlotte vs Bayley Becky Lynch vs Mickie James Big clusterfuck ladder match- US Championship Pre Show Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal Random give all the women a thing to do match Neville vs Akira Tozawa - Cruiserweight Championship Goldberg vs Roman Reigns - Universal Championship Goldberg won the rumble (punking Brock again in the process because that would be cool), and now hopes to retire as champion, never having once taken a clean loss, beating everyone ever and being the greatest of all time. Roman Reigns is of course the golden boy, and would be a good stylistic opponent for Goldberg. gently caress it, have Goldberg win, it'd be awesome. Sure, it's harmful long term to the WWE, and fails to create new stars, but that hasn't stopped them before. It'd be awesome. AJ Styles vs Bray Wyatt vs Randy Orton vs Dean Ambrose - WWE Championship Fatal 4 way. Place Randy Orton's allegience still unknown at this point, creating a match with a dynamic of quasi 2 faces vs 2 heels, and have the winner be the one who makes the most sense based on popularity and plotline. But gently caress it, let's say Bray Wyatt finally wins, possibly with Harper or Strowman's help. Undertaker vs John Cena I was originally thinking to have Cena fail at the rumble and have his big moment of equalling Ric Flair's imaginary record happen at Wrestlemania against a guy he's 0-3 against. But really, who the hell else would have face undertaker? Have Undertaker win. Brock Lesnar vs The Rock This match would be an incredible draw, and possibly a very good match. Problem is that the Rock can't get injured, while recklessly throwing people around is Brock's thing. Nevertheless, it's what I'd want to see on the Wrestlemania card. Shaq vs Big Show Shaq wins in 5 minutes, nobody cares, at least this result is more likely to get a headline. Seth Rollins vs HHH They're determined to do it, because they somehow think it will get Seth over more. Have Seth win in 10-15 minutes, please don't give trips longer than that. Charlotte vs Bayley Bayley wins, Charlotte's streak is finally broken, and at Wrestlemania. It has to be broken eventually, and if they want to make Bayley the huge star that she can be, this would be the right way to do it. Becky Lynch vs Mickie James This would work about as well with Alexa Bliss, but with Mickie James rumoured to be returning full time to the main roster, her getting another Wrestlemania match would be nicely nostalgic and a good match (If the Asuka match is anything to go off). Lynch retains. Honestly this is one that could be trimmed to the pre show or incorporated into the big women's tag match based on time requirements. Big clusterfuck ladder match- US Championship Maybe Roman Reigns loses it via cheating (say, to Jericho), maybe he just relinquishes the belt. Participants: Chris Jericho, Braun Strowman, Sami Zayn, Kevin Owens, Rusev, Kofi Kingston. Have Kofi win it, so the New Day can freebird the US Championship. Sure it doesn't make sense, but it's the kind of thing the WWE would do. ~ Pre Show ~ Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal Holy crap there's so many drat people. The Miz, both tag champions, the intercontinental champion, cruiserweights,. I'm assuming that Miz and Ambrose don't just feud until Wrestlemania, and they actually settle their issues before then. Random give all the women a thing to do match Big tag match from both rosters, faces one side, heels the other. Doesn't matter, give the face team the win. Sorry Smackdown Women's championship, but I was looking at Alexa Bliss or Becky Lynch vs Mickie James, and that isn't main card material. Neville vs Akira Tozawa - Cruiserweight Championship gently caress it, just have them have a match. Have Neville retain. What would people do differently, or how would they like to see Wrestlemania shape up? Wazzu fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Dec 30, 2016 |
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Pretty sure Goldberg/Brock 3 is already set in stone, with the assumption they'll eliminate each other from the Rumble.
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Benne posted:Pretty sure Goldberg/Brock 3 is already set in stone, with the assumption they'll eliminate each other from the Rumble. I know, but I can hope for another result that I don't hate and is the same as Wrestlemania 20. How would you have Wrestlemania look?
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I'm thinking Reigns faces Braun for the title. There's been some foreshadowing with him interfering in the main event match on Raw recently. Reigns beats Owens for the title and Braun wins the Rumble. Vince has his final deathgasm as Reigns goes over Braun.
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Jenkem Delivery posted:I'm thinking Reigns faces Braun for the title. There's been some foreshadowing with him interfering in the main event match on Raw recently. Reigns beats Owens for the title and Braun wins the Rumble. Vince has his final deathgasm as Reigns goes over Braun. That sounds awful and extremely likely.
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No way Miz isn't on the card are you nuts
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No Irish Need Imply posted:No way Miz isn't on the card are you nuts I couldn't work out who he'd be facing, and who to bump off. The only way I see him being on the card is facing Ambrose still, and boy do I not want them to feud until April. For all the good things on Smackdown, there isn't a wide variety of good main event faces, and once you take out Cena and Undertaker, you kind of need Ambrose in the WWE title match. So unless you want the WWE Championship match to just be some combination of Wyatt, Orton and Styles (which isn't awful), I considered that it was best to limit it. Seriously there's so much poo poo to feature on Wrestlemania. This version is already a drat long show. Wazzu fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Dec 30, 2016 |
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Alright here's my dumb and bad prediction that nobody will like Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg Seth Rollins vs. Triple H John Cena (c) vs. Undertaker -- WWE Championship Roman Reigns (c) vs. Braun Strowman -- Universal Championship AJ Styles vs. Dean Ambrose vs. The Miz (c) vs. Baron Corbin -- Fatal 4-way for Intercontinental Championship Randy Orton vs. Bray Wyatt Charlotte (c) vs. Bayley -- RAW Women's Championship Nikki Bella vs. Alexa Bliss (c) -- Smackdown Women's Championship Clusterfuck Ladder Match for US Championship -- Kevin Owens vs. Sami Zayn vs. Chris Jericho vs. Rusev (maybe add some more people, I dunno, Raw singles roster is running pretty thin at this point) New Day vs. The Club vs. Sheamus/Cesaro (c) vs. Enzo/Cass -- "Get every team in one match" RAW Tag Team Championship Big Show vs. Shaq -- "We're really going through with this, huh" Championship Pre-show Neville (c) vs. Jack Gallagher -- Cruiserweight Championship Andre The Giant Battle Royale with all the random geeks from both brands Random 10-woman tag, either face vs. heel or RAW vs. Smackdown, who cares really Random cruiserweight tag to get all the vanilla midgets a Mania payday This is such a bloated roster that there's almost no way to get every title on the card (sorry, Smackdown tag champions). And we'll probably have a shitload of multi-man and multi-woman clusterfucks because "gotta get everyone on the show," so it wouldn't surprise me if both women's title matches become triple threats or even four-ways.
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Benne posted:Alright here's my dumb and bad prediction that nobody will like If they do develop Gallagher, he would probably be a better challenger. Also for anyone trying to do the same, previous years total match counts (brackets indicate how many were pre show matches): 2012: 9(1) 2013: 9(1) 2014: 8(1) 2015: 9(1) 2016: 12 (3)
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I think Balor is going to make it back in time for Mania. That's not based on anything at all other than him being very positive about his rehab, so I'm prepared to be totally wrong. If he is going to get back in time,I think (hope) they'll keep the belt on Owens until Wrestlemania and have Balor take it off of him when he returns, because Balor basically can't come back and do anything other than go after the Universal Championship. The alternatives are he takes it off of Reigns (who wins at Rumble) or, in a swerve, he goes for the WWE Championship and takes on Styles (this assumes Taker appears at Rumble and costs Cena the belt). Another option might be putting Balor against Undertaker because the DEMON V. PHENOM video package practically writes itself and having Cena/Styles Pt. 3 with Cena winning. Anyways, there's my lovely fantasy booking. See ya. Edit: If Balor, doesn't come back, here's the card: 1. Goldberg v. Brock Lesnar 2. Undertaker v. John Cena 3. Seth Rollins v. HHH 4. Kevin Owens (c) v. Chris Jericho - WWE Universal Championship [Jericho wins the Rumble] 5. AJ Styles v. Bray Wyatt v. Randy Orton v. Dean Ambrose - WWE Championship 6. Roman Reigns v. Braun Strowman [Grudge match I guess, Strowman costs Reigns the title at the Rumble] 7. Charlotte (c) v. Bayley - WWE Raw Women's Championship 8. Alexa Bliss (c) v. Becky Lynch - Smackdown Women's Championship 9. Clusterfuck US Title Ladder Match 10. The Miz (c) v. Sami Zayn - WWE Intercontinental Championship Professor Funk fucked around with this message at 06:52 on Dec 30, 2016 |
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Professor Funk posted:
Based off of the TV at this point, I think these matches are as locked in as hard as anything booked by Vince could be. I think the Roman/Braun match will be for the title, though.
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I get that Brock/Rock would be huge, but Brock really wouldn't give a gently caress about taking liberties with one of the highest paid actors in Hollywood, especially when his philosophy seems to be "Don't worry, I can totally open you up in a way that doesn't hurt you" (immediately inflicts concussion).
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As much as I hope it doesn't happen, Brock beating Goldberg at Mania is pretty much a 100% lock.
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This is my best guess, though there's probably a good amount of wishful thinking here: WWE Title: John Cena vs. Undertaker Universal Title: Reigns vs. Strowman HHH vs. Rollins Big Show vs. Shaq Lesnar vs. Goldberg Orton vs. Wyatt KO vs. Jericho Styles vs. Balor (if Finn's not back, then Styles vs. Zayn. I could also see this being an 8/10 man Raw vs. SD tag with Styles on one side and Finn/Zayn on the other) IC Title: Ambrose vs. Miz Raw Women's Title: Charlotte vs. Bayley SD Women's Title: Sasha vs. Nattie vs. Becky vs. Mickie James Raw Tag Title Ladder Match Cesaro/Sheamus vs. New Day vs. Anderson/Gallows vs. Shining Stars Pre-Show: SD Tag Title: American Alpha vs. Revival Cruiserweight Title Swann vs. Neville vs. Gallagher vs. Gallagher Andre Battle Royal
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TL posted:there's probably a good amount of wishful thinking here I can tell
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These are the matchups I can see possibly at mania, though there are a lot, so assume a few are squashes or otherwise short/on the preshow/raw after Cena/Taker Brock/Goldberg Reigns/Strowman HHH/Rollins Show/Shaq KO/Jericho Bayley/Charlotte Alexa/Nikki Neville/Gallagher Orton/Wyatt Miz open challenge, answered by a callup who takes the belt Baron/Dean Becky/Mickie ARMBAR - Finn wins if he's back, otherwise another NXT callup wins. big tag match between the various tag teams IcePhoenix posted:I can tell Jack Gallagher could put on an excellent match against Jack Gallagher.
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I feel like MitB could make a return but I have no idea how to fit it onto any theoretical card
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IcePhoenix posted:I feel like MitB could make a return but I have no idea how to fit it onto any theoretical card http://www.inquisitr.com/3126593/wwe-news-womens-money-in-the-bank-ladder-match-being-discussed-for-upcoming-ppv/
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IcePhoenix posted:I can tell Ha, that'd be amazing, though I meant Swann vs. Neville vs. Gallagher vs. Aries.
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Senerio posted:http://www.inquisitr.com/3126593/wwe-news-womens-money-in-the-bank-ladder-match-being-discussed-for-upcoming-ppv/ I fear for Sasha Banks with how she bumps, but I'd totally watch this match.
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Cena/Undertaker/Styles for the title in the main event. Cena wins the belt at the Rumble. Undertaker wins the Rumble. Styles challenges for the rematch at Mania. Something something which "era" is it? Undertaker has the best worker in the world to buffer what have been a lackluster past few Mania appearances.
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Senerio posted:Jack Gallagher could put on an excellent match against Jack Gallagher. A few minutes in, both would be in some weird immovable pretzel knot and then the match would have to be called off.
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Am I the only one actually kinda looking forward to Big Show/Shaq? It'll be garbage if they go longer than 2 minutes, but I'm pretty sure they know they can't do a serious match, and Show going full comedy heel and yelling poo poo like I'M GONNA DO MY MOVE is always entertaining.
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Benne posted:Am I the only one actually kinda looking forward to Big Show/Shaq? It'll be garbage if they go longer than 2 minutes, but I'm pretty sure they know they can't do a serious match, and Show going full comedy heel and yelling poo poo like I'M GONNA DO MY MOVE is always entertaining. I don't know if I'd say I'm looking forward to it, but I'm confident it won't be the biggest waste of time on the show. Show getting in great shape for this and knowing that at the very least it's going to be one of his last matches, if not his last, makes me think they're at least going to try to make it an entertaining celeb match. And it's not like the competition's tough there Also this V Chris James 2 fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Dec 31, 2016 |
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Chris James 2 posted:I don't know if I'd say I'm looking forward to it, but I'm confident it won't be the biggest waste of time on the show. Show getting in great shape for this and knowing that at the very least it's going to be one of his last matches, if not his last, makes me think they're at least going to try to make it an entertaining celeb match. And it's not like the competition's tough there also shaq freAKIN OWNS
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MotU posted:also shaq freAKIN OWNS i saw him on this show w/ guys that make fishtanks and he is cool and apparenlty he played basketball too? idk
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Sugar Blaster posted:Cena/Undertaker/Styles for the title in the main event. Cena wins the belt at the Rumble. Undertaker wins the Rumble. Styles challenges for the rematch at Mania. Something something which "era" is it? Undertaker has the best worker in the world to buffer what have been a lackluster past few Mania appearances. Because Cena equalling Flair's record is a big deal, I can't see him just winning at the Rumble, personally. Man do I think him beating Styles avenging 3 losses would be good, but instead he's almost certain to just face Undertaker. But the limited space on the card making it a title match also makes sense. Benne posted:Am I the only one actually kinda looking forward to Big Show/Shaq? It'll be garbage if they go longer than 2 minutes, but I'm pretty sure they know they can't do a serious match, and Show going full comedy heel and yelling poo poo like I'M GONNA DO MY MOVE is always entertaining. You've got your matches against Mayweather, and your matches against Akebono. Big Show can be good, but not as reliably as I'd like. It certainly won't be absolutely awful. Wazzu fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Dec 31, 2016 |
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roamn beats everyone while the crowd boos and then vince comes out and dances
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also, big show didnt have a sumo match with yokozuna, he had a sumo match with akebono.
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Endorph posted:also, big show didnt have a sumo match with yokozuna, he had a sumo match with akebono. My mistake. Even WWE aren't quite willing to make Big Show fight a corpse in the ring. Endorph posted:roamn beats everyone while the crowd boos and then vince comes out and dances Watching him try to do Shane's dance would be at least mildly amusing.
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Wazzu posted:Because Cena equalling Flair's record is a big deal, I can't see him just winning at the Rumble, personally. It's really not a big deal though, it's only a big deal because they like to say it is in the narrative. Flair's title wins include other promotions retroactively counting, while Cena's were all WWE. Cena's also are spread among two championships which only retroactively count now that they've merged into one. Would they count it as a notch on his record if he returned to Raw and won the Universal title now? The answer to that is "only if they felt like it". Something like Taker's streak was actually newsworthy not because of the narrative they were pushing, but because it was something the audience never thought WWE would book someone to break. Cena/Flair is all narrative, the details are fuzzy retcons, and from a strictly WWE perspective Cena's already long since beaten Flair's record. sticklefifer fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Dec 31, 2016 |
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i dont really see the point in trying to draw a distinction between what some arbitrary numbers a company is heavily promoting as an important moment and a real(???) accomplishment in fake fighting like the undertaker's streak they only decided was a thing 8 years ago. this is a thing dorks on message boards care about not the average person who watches wrestling they've been playing up flair's 16 titles since he came back in 2002, commentary has brought up the idea of john cena surpassing it every single time he's had a title shot for a few years now, and cena has been actively pursuing the record since he dropped the US title. it'll be a moment when it happens oatgan fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Dec 31, 2016 |
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I really want Zayn v Owens, belt vs career as a singles match for WM. gently caress it, if we're going to waste Zayn, let's go whole hog.
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I want Dana Brooke to take a liking to Ellsworth on Raw while Carmella makes him her boy on Smackdown. Then they have a winner gets Ellsworth match at Wrestlemania. It ends with Dana Brooke walking him like a dog on a leash
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Its gonna be a shame that AJ Styles isn't getting a marquee match. I'm of the philosophy that Wrestlemania should be headlined by the 2 best current wrestlers going against each other, Wrestle Kingdom / Wrestlemania pre-25ish style. So I'd somehow build to AJ Styles vs Seth Rollins. Oh well Also why the gently caress are they putting Shaq against Big Show instead of Big Cass? Enzo promos on Shaq would be glorious, plus its gonna be a comedy match anyway so why not go all the way. Ernie Johnson to accompany Shaq to the ring and a Charles Barkley run-in SpiritOfSanDimas fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Dec 31, 2016 |
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Ellsworth will at least be in the final 2 for the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal.
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SpiritOfSanDimas posted:Its gonna be a shame that AJ Styles isn't getting a marquee match. I'm of the philosophy that Wrestlemania should be headlined by the 2 best current wrestlers going against each other, Wrestle Kingdom / Wrestlemania pre-25ish style. So I'd somehow build to AJ Styles vs Seth Rollins. Oh well Wrestlemania was about the two best current wrestlers going against each other in the main event pre WM 25? In what world?
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MassRafTer posted:Wrestlemania was about the two best current wrestlers going against each other in the main event pre WM 25? In what world? lol I dont mean like 'best in ring technician' but hottest current stars. Hart / Michaels, Austin / Rock, Angle / Lesnar, etc. Come to think of it most years dont fit that formula, but I feel like the best years in my opinion did
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SpiritOfSanDimas posted:lol I dont mean like 'best in ring technician' but hottest current stars. Hart / Michaels, Austin / Rock, Angle / Lesnar, etc. Come to think of it most years dont fit that formula, but I feel like the best years in my opinion did They've come just as close to doing that since WM 25 than they did before it.
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