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Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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I'm gonna make a bold rear end prediction: a third engine manufacturer is announced before the season ends (this is going to be completely wrong, but i wanna be positive)

Also less bold rear end prediction, the new car bodywork will look Good™

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Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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Yeah i wouldnt bet on Ford coming back to indycar anytime soon, and with VW making GBS threads the bed, VAG's long interest is surely dead. Still pulling for a third manufacturer though, be it FCA, Nissan, Hyundai/Kia, Mercedes, or whatever

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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NHRA, and Formula Ford is dead in most of the countries where it used to exist.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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Texas lowering the banking in 1 and 2 from 24 degrees to 20.

http://www.indycar.com/News/2017/01/01-06-TMS-repave

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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I mean they could do it, they would just go slow as hell. Also the racing would blow rear end because rooster tails+limited grooves on ovals would mean nobody would even get close to each other. Thats basically what happens when it rains at the Daytona 24, everyone spaces out perfectly equidistant to each other going through the banking.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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Sigma Autosport also folded up after 5 races, which is why Ganassi picked up Dixon to keep the field at 18, which was the series contractual minimum for the races.

I did like Sigma's schemes, while they lasted.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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Human Grand Prix posted:

Franchitti's rookie season consisted of him driving his rear end off and then getting hosed over repeatedly by various factors.

My dad was team manager. They were pissed that Mercedes was sticking them with some dumb, young touring car driver in order for Hogan to get free engines. By the 2nd race, nobody was complaining anymore.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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i went to TF to see if some goober had already posted a "MAYBE CARL IS COMING TO INDYCAR" post, and there was already a 26 post thread about it. drat, theyre quick.

also a potential young Mexican driver with Carlos Slim support testing for SSM's third car:

http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/137620-indycar-auto-gp-champ-to-test-with-spm

seems to have been driving all over the place with mixed results, but some wins. apparently won the Auto GP title last year, which i forgot existed.

Cygni fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Jan 11, 2017

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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gret posted:

e: LOL in the 2016 season only 9 drivers started a race in the series and only 2 drivers competed in all of the rounds.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Auto_GP_Formula_Open_Championship

and then it merged with BOSS... you legit cant make this poo poo up.

i love the idea of a series merging straight with BOSS instead of folding up shop like, sure, lets just cut out the middleman and get right to it.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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TV Sched, basically the same as this year I think

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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no airbox :getin:

interesting lack of aeroscreen on any of them, wonder if thats no longer a 2018 thing

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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cota is bad fia is bad tilke is bad texas is bad

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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COTA sucks because it's in a lovely state and it's way too wide and sweepy so it makes everything that's not F1 look slow and boring. Also those high speed aero corners kill passing. Also it's name is terrible.

Been on that COTA hate train since the day they announced it baybee

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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ok both of the last 2 posts are pretty true

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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Pigot is going to be confirmed in the #20 for the roads/streets, with a 3rd car for Indy.

http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/137736-indycar-pigot-seals-ecr-road-street-deal

Also IndyCar really seems to be publicly wooing an additional engine manufacturer lately, I don't remember them doing this openly before. I imagine that this is really directed at a specific group.

http://www.indycar.com/News/2017/01/01-16-INDYCAR-new-OEMs

Cygni fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Jan 17, 2017

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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Firestone reupped long term:

http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/137748-indycar-multiyear-contract-extension-signed-with-firestone

Teams also are going to get more sets of blacks for the weekend (to encourage more practice), and a Friday practice specific set of reds to use.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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God yes.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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Coletti tweeted about IndyCar for the first time in forever today with this, too:

https://twitter.com/stefanocoletti/status/821847353707626497

Coletti+Maldonado, what a KV Racing combo that would be.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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After this in '86:



Plus all the high level driver defections over the years to CART, then Mansell... yes, the FIA was worried about CART. Worried enough to blackball tracks and even whole countries to keep CART's international expansion in check. Rockingham, Lasuitz, and Motegi aren't all ovals by accident or choice.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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All three were planned from the start as ovals, specifically because of F1/FIA horseshit. I highly doubt Honda would have ever built an oval in Japan if that wasn't a consideration, but I don't have any insider info about Motegi or anything.

And yeah, I watched Mansell come over. Like you said, legitimate or not and for whatever reasons, F1/FIA was clearly spooked about CART. I personally don't think it ever stood a chance of somehow overtaking F1 on the world stage, but it certainly was well on its way to being marketable in a lot of markets that F1 still covets.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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harperdc posted:

oh, it's not just that. It's also the fact that the Old Man, during a meeting with the FIA at the Ferrari factory while threatening to possibly walk away from F1, fired up the engine in the background.

ok thats baller as hell

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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quote:

EDM superstars CHAD DEL CHAD and NOUGAT will headline, along with support by RL STINE, CHARLES BRONSON, ADVENTURE TIME and THE PARENT TRAP.


man im out of touch with the kids these days

alternate joke is just to quote leon:

https://twitter.com/leyawn/status/445926596143095809

Cygni fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Jan 24, 2017

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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Peanut President posted:

What is this post?

Fuzzy bein Fuzzy. Should count our stars it doesn't also bring up the split or fantasy schedules/whatifs.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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maybe you shouldnt pick apart their reasoning and just accept that they dont want to pay for an indycar program

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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Honda pretty aggressively separates their US arm from corporate, from what I understand. Monetarily, all US Honda profit goes back to the US arm and not corporate, for example. There are a couple companies like that, Porsche NA is also really independent. I think it helps them politically,

Uncle probably knows more than I do about that stuff though.

Honda HQ was definitely involved in the CART era, if the number of trips my dad took to Japan are any indicator. They also did a full engineer rotation through the program, which was pretty cool. Fun fact, the computer shift without lift thats now pretty common in a lot of racecars was originally a technology transfer from Honda motorcycles to Honda's CART program, that got worked out over thousands of testing miles at Firebird in the early 90s.

Apparently the Toyota oligarch dude (Akio Toyota, i think) was super into CART and racing though, and was a super chill dude that hung around the paddock for every race.

Cygni fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Jan 28, 2017

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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CactusWeasle posted:

My honest first thought was "how does an IndyCar driver afford all of those?"

TK is old enough to have driven during the $1m+ salary days.

Also Aleshin confirmed with SPM afterall: http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/138004-aleshin-returns-with-spm

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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Karam is going to run the 500 with DRR again, pencil him in for a crash while running in the top 10 about halfway through the race. Aka the Townsend Bell.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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I got my Long Beach tix ordered a few weeks ago, and im thinking long and hard (much like a boner) about Indy or Phoenix tix as well

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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Looks like the test will have timing AND video (?!)

good second monitor material for a friday work day imo

http://racecontrol.indycar.com/

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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KingShibby posted:

Mikhail Aleshin pretty much just blamed Obama for the hold up in his SMP Racing offseason sponsorship issues

well yeah, his ride is literally funded by the shell bank that putin and his best budz use to embezzle and launder funds. it was explicitly targeted by the sanctions after putin annexed crimea, and its still used by them to channel funds to the *cough cough* "Ukrainian rebels" putin is paying.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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Rossi into the wall

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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phoenix almost looks like a place for humans to live right now with the hills all green and such

(it is not)

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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now Rahal in the wall. maybe dont crash in an open practice day that doesnt mean anything, just my advice 2 them

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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now add JR to the list of victims today. quite the repair bill for this test.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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Sato

https://twitter.com/indy44/status/830611847753654274

Bourdais/Newgarden

https://twitter.com/indy44/status/830622240588832769

JR

https://twitter.com/indy44/status/830624884665495552

heres Rossi, def a mechanical failure of sometime (engine or gearbox seize?)
https://twitter.com/indy44/status/830509007123075072

Cygni fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Feb 12, 2017

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

FuzzySkinner posted:

I'm in the mood for dumb questions to ask the thread.

Considering the fact that a.) it still exists, and b.) it's actually providing drivers for Indy Lights again (Ryan Norman)..do you think we'll ever see the Atlantics become a feeder series for IMSA/ICS again?

Also how come it DIDN'T become those things past 2008 or so?

The split, as always.

Lights continued with CART after the split because they owned the trademark to the name, but the field dwindled because the cars were expensive to run and Atlantics was getting faster and more expensive itself. So they just canned Lights completely after 01 and used Atlantics as the top feeder series. ChampCar then updated them in 06 and made them faster/bigger to better fit the role.

Meanwhile in 02, the IRL decided they needed a feeder series (partially because USAC was imploding), so they started the "Infiniti Pro Series" because they didnt have the Lights trademark.

In merger talks, it was pretty obvious that Atlantics and IPS were broadly similar so there was no real reason to keep both. Atlantics had a huge field in 2007, but most of the field was using ChampCar subsidized leases on the chassis, and the cars would need new suspension and gearbox updates to run on ovals. Tony George was subsidizing most of the IPS field too, but he was the one buying the ChampCar assets afterall. Since IndyCar now had the Indy Lights trademark back, IPS was rebranded as Lights and Atlantics was sold off to go be a IMSA support series.

Atlantics only survived like 1 year of independence before folding completely in 2010 because there was unironically going to be a 1 car field at the first race (Zach Veach, funny enough). Some guys bought the ashes to join the SCCA pro-am series, like F1600 and stuff. Thats where Atlantics came from in the first place, and guys have been running them at the SCCA run-offs for years even with the pro series running. I think it folded again after that but apparently came back.

Its not a "pro" series, so thats why its not in the ladder and wont be. Although I would totally support IndyCar buying the name and rebranding Pro Mazda.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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Well we found out who was buying some of KV's stuff: Juncos apparently bought 2 of KV's cars and wants to run the 500 this year and more next year.

... by the way, there are rumors linking them to Pastor Maldonado.

http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/138182-juncos-racing-readying-indycar-program

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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Good

https://twitter.com/RaceSonoma/status/831646233944920064

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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Sounds like Newgarden's car will be in Miller Lite colors for the 500, based on his twitter feed.

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Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

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Also KV officially dead: http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/138216-kv-racing-technology-thanks-fans-team-members

Coyne becomes the only surviving team that ran in ChampCar in 07.


How about a picture a year for their tenure. Pretty sad to lose a fairly long term participant.

Mika Salo in 03:



Jimmy Vasser in 04:



Cristiano Damatta in 05:



Kat Legge in 06:



Neel Jani 07:



Will Power 08:



Paul Tracy 09:



Mario Moraes, Takuma Sato, EJ Viso, and PT '10:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9BmgSit9cA

Sato '11:



Rubens Barichello '12:



Tony Kanaan '13:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8v-X6S4wlU&t=940s

Townsend Bell '14:


Bryan Clauson '15:


Sebastien Bourdais '16:

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