GiP Gaming: Atlases are only hard if you suck

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Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

I�m going back and playing the original Doom/Doom2 episodes through ZDoom after finding out DOOM: Eternal is coming. If you have the Steam version of any of the old Doom games/their expansions, ZDoom picks finds them and lets you choose which one you want to play, complete with mouse-look, crosshairs, and a bunch of little QoL improvements that make them pretty enjoyable even today. Still looking for someone to add the super shotgun in the first 4 episodes, but you can�t have everything...

# ¿ Jun 16, 2019 14:59

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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 07:05

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

The collection of Ocarina of Time and Majora�s Mask was pretty solid, too. I�ve also yet to find anything that scratches the F-Zero itch, after the GameCube version melted my brain a few times over with GX.

# ¿ Jun 25, 2019 22:58

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

No matter how many hours I have in any games in my Steam library, I don�t think any of them will come remotely close to the amount of time I spent on N64 Goldeneye. And let�s not even mention Mario Kart, whose hours probably dwarf my time in Goldeneye :stonklol:

# ¿ Jun 26, 2019 02:22

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

i need tp

For your BUNGHOLE?!

# ¿ Jun 29, 2019 01:19

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Looks like she�s the one playing the game right now :suicide:

# ¿ Jul 5, 2019 23:56

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Godholio posted:

Are they supposed to drink it?

This is the least terrible thing that will be done with it.

:gonk:

# ¿ Jul 6, 2019 00:46

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

I bought Doom 1 and 2 on Steam, then downloaded ZDoom to play the .wads with mouselook, jumping, etc. Episodes 1-3 in Doom 1 weren�t so bad on Nightmare, then I got to Thy Flesh Consumed and got completely wrecked. Early cyberdemon? Up to 6 barons trying to bash your skull in at the same time? ~10 cacodemons in the exit room? An opening engagement where if you don�t cause infighting, you�ll run out of ammo before killing everything? Welcome to the second map of Thy Flesh Consumed! :haw:

I tried Evilution and Plutonia, but those are beyond me. I don�t think I made it past the second level of either.

# ¿ Jul 27, 2019 15:05

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

her name is Daisy

John Wick�s dog was also named Daisy. This makes that name the most-avenged pet name ever.

Ps you counter the blue shell by keeping some poor scrub near you, and dropping to second right before it hits ~~them instead~~. Worked fine for me on 64 and Doubledash, but I haven�t played one since then :corsair:

# ¿ Aug 7, 2019 01:46

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Slim Pickens posted:

I was tempted.

E: it's 25% off too, gently caress it, got it

You'd better glory kill that, before it comes back to life and fires off yet another hateful volley.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2019 22:10

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

gog is cool too

X-Wing: Alliance was back on GoG before it was on Steam. Game was worth the price for the Death Star II tunnel run mission alone, and then modding the game to let you fly an A-Wing instead of the Falcon made it a true :supaburn:

of a mission :getin:

# ¿ Aug 14, 2019 00:20

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Fallom posted:

Alliance was one I never really got into, for whatever reason. Does it play ok on modern computers?

I play it through Steam just fine. The program I used to mod it (AlliEd), doesn�t play nice on my computer, though...so no insane A-Wing speed shenanigans in the DS II tunnels (unless you can pull that trick with the Falcon and it�s offset cockpit).

# ¿ Aug 14, 2019 03:27

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

mlmp08 posted:

The real challenge of the game was time management and, to a lesser extent, ordnance management.

Turbolasers don't have much range, and the enemy AI gunners only do a constant line lead, so jinking on the way to a target made the enemy essentially incapable of hitting you. Missiles required constant maneuver to evade (or just shoot them), but you could essentially fly in a mass of enemy fire and never get hit if you constantly changed direction. That just meant if you didn't defang them by killing enemies, knocking turrets out, etc, you'd eventually be so swarmed that you basically couldn't straighten out for more than a fraction of a second to fire at a target or scan something or the like.

On missions without time limits, to run the score up, this meant a single TIE fighter could eventually knock out capital ships and such if you were exceptionally patient just to run up the score and get more tats.

I'm pretty sure X-Wing: Alliance followed this same model, although you could pull a shortcut and shoot all your missiles at the shield generators on star destroyers to knock the shields out faster than you otherwise would've. The wingman command system was an extreme pain in the rear end, but if you could master it there was no reason you couldn't finish almost every level on hard mode. Mag Pulse torpedoes also disabled targets for a short span the same way ion weapons would, so if you were feeling lazy with a Y or B wing you could load up on those, park behind the bridge, and just go to town :v:

# ¿ Aug 14, 2019 11:35

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Steezo posted:

Depends on how you want to play it. you can peel the cover off or dodge like a madman and shot off the guns and missile launchers off capitol craft. Also depends on the mission objective. Sometimes you have to destroy the capital ship. Sometimes you're fighter escort for the bombers, sometimes you're in an ambush trying to survive till reinforcements can hyperspace in. Or you're the ambusher trying to take them out before theirs show up. If you're in a fighter yeah, you've only got two guns and so much power cap. Once you're in an interceptor you have more options and bigger engines.

It sometimes uses you getting swamped as a sign to call for reinforcements or get the hell out of there.

It doesn't start you off by swamping you, staying past the initial objective to do more is usually up to you. Once your primary is met you can gtfo. What's time consuming is trying to figure out the hidden objectives. which show up when you look at the mission in the reaplay/holosim thing.

I dont think there was a taunt option in comms but you could usually pull aggro off a wingman by popping off a few shots. Oh and there is a training sim in the game, kind of an obstacle course. Its a decent introduction to handling and power management. You gain time by flying through the hoops or hitting targets. Been a long time, used to play the everloving poo poo out of some X-Wing or Tie Fighter...

God, the junkyard sims in Alliance were some of my favorites. Dump all power to engines, manage your throttle to change your maneuverability, and beat the times of Luke and Wedge in the X-Wing :black101:

Dude McAwesome posted:

dude that rules so much. just a lil TIE plinking away so your guy gets more purple ink

what’s jinking?

so it’s pretty much just about staying at maximum range all the time? that sounds very time consuming

1) random maneuvers to avoid incoming fire.
2) That's only if you're going for 100%. Most missions in X-Wing: Alliance had a 10min timer for you to accomplish your primary objectives, and some of them would go even faster. I'm thinking of the evac from home base (family mission), where everything spirals out of control hilariously fast and you can only try to stay ~~barely~~ ahead of it.

The only one that was a real pain on the clock was the "knock out the shield generators on the Executor mission, which you're doing in the Falcon. You're either going back to your home cruiser for reloads, or doing awkward orbits in a turbolaser field while your turret gunners plink away at them (one at a time). As soon as you knocked them out, the Executor would do its final dive...and if you were approaching from the wrong direction, the ship would hit you on the way down. I think it rotated strangely or something, or maybe it pulled up instead? I died to that a ton way back when.

# ¿ Aug 15, 2019 11:55

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Steezo posted:

Just gonna recommend Streets of Rogue if you have any friends. Your goal is to become the next mayor. Its somewhere between streets of rage and space station 13 in terms of gameplay and insanity. There are many character classes to try each with different objectives, zombies wanna make more zombies, cops want to arrest the guilty, comedians tell a joke, werewolf wants to rage, scientists test drugs on people, all while working as a resistance plant to be the next mayor by doing missions on each level. Missions usually mean murder. You're murdering your way to mayor.

Its twenty bucks and i've already gotten more enjoyment out of it with the assholes I play battlefield with than I would have from fast food or a movie. Maybe not the best metric since i go to early shows if i can help it, less people. Fun game. Like, SNES brawler with friends on the weekend and you've got the TV to yourself and four controllers and hey wanna go ride bikes fun...

it has freeze rays, shrink rays, tasers, drugs, alcohol, getting health back with drugs and alcohol, accidentally injecting sulfuric acid because it looks like a drug, purposefully giving people who hate you sulfuric acid so they can die and its one less person voting against you at the end... and more.

Streets of Rogue is great. Feels like an old arcade game, but you can create your own classes if the default ones aren�t to your liking.

# ¿ Aug 17, 2019 03:58

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

I�m feeling the itch for the Thief series again, from ~1999/early 2000�s. Religious fanatics, competing thieves, deceitful gods, and tombs full of zombies all had treasures that served better to keep a roof over your head and food in your belly than staying wherever they were. Ghosting it completely was a true challenge too, although between the difficulty and any self-imposed restrictions the game was as easy or as hard as you wanted it to be. Want to kill everyone and leave a trail of blood and bodies? Go right ahead! Want to knock them all out and throw them in a pile so they�re confused in the morning? Go for it! Want to be a true master, without ever knocking anyone out or anyone even suspecting something was amiss? Gods be with you, that is going to be hard.

# ¿ Aug 18, 2019 03:44

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

CommieGIR posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_nj6wW6Gsc

Nothing else matters now.

Oh no. Oh loving no.

:stwoon:

# ¿ Aug 19, 2019 21:33

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

That reminds me, I need to make a rover that can double as the command pod for a rocket, separate from the base to drive around, then re-attach somehow and fly back to Kerbin :jeb:

# ¿ Aug 19, 2019 21:37

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Nostalgia4Ass posted:

Can you imagine multiplayer GiP KSP sessions?

I...I�m afraid to :ohdear:

Between the relentless attack runs, flying through each other�s bases like it�s a Death Star tunnel run, and the sheer insanity of what you fuckers will undoubtedly build...I can�t wait :getin:

# ¿ Aug 19, 2019 21:46

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Ugghhh I bought into KSP before it was even on Steam, I shudder to think of how many hours I�ve actually put into it (800 currently on Steam, rookie numbers in this bracket, etc)

# ¿ Aug 19, 2019 21:55

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

not caring here posted:

Holy moly you fuckers play some games

KSP isn�t anywhere close to my Rocket League time :negative:

1364 hrs for RL

# ¿ Aug 20, 2019 00:19

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Fallom posted:

Age of Empires Definitive Edition is out on Xbox Game Pass + Steam fyi

I picked this up and requested a refund after a half hour of playing it. There's nothing it does that anything in the Total War series doesn't do better, at this point.

# ¿ Aug 20, 2019 01:22

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Within my top 6, I've got ~3300 hours down. Rocket League, XCOM 1 and 2, Kerbal Space Program, Total War: Warhammer 2, and Planetbase. That's all of what I've got installed right now, minus all the old dooms (to get the .wads so I could run them in gzDoom) and Doom 4 (because demons won't glory kill themselves :black101:

)

# ¿ Aug 20, 2019 01:49

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

I�m a fan of base building, sometimes. I just couldn�t do it there. It looked pretty and seemed like a solid port...but TW is what stole me from playing AoE, fighting without having to manage collecting 5 resources at the same time sold me on it.

# ¿ Aug 20, 2019 02:48

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

orange juche posted:

I would guess that you would want to land and take off as efficiently as possible, leave your ship that you used to reach the planet in orbit, and descend in a lander that has just enough fuel to land and then make orbit again, and no extra mass, because any extra mass will gently caress up trying to make it back to orbit.

Landing and taking off from Eve is my Mount Everest of KSP challenges. I�ve just never been able to manage it, no matter what. People do pull it off, though...somehow.

https://youtu.be/-CkKzINpe_8

# ¿ Aug 22, 2019 02:14

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

So I decided to dick around with planes in KSP, and accidentally built an SSTO spaceplane :jeb:

6 Rapiers on the back end. It'll make an 80x80km orbit with ~200 delta V to spare, and can glide back down to land at KSC without ripping itself apart (not for lack of trying :v:

) I could probably lose the forward canards, I already have to set the maneuver settings to be sensitive at low altitude.

# ¿ Aug 22, 2019 20:47

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Nah, just tell him you did it and watch him search frantically for something that isn�t there :getin:

# ¿ Aug 24, 2019 20:14

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

ElMaligno posted:

a JO cave if you will

Gotta charge those crystals somehow.

# ¿ Aug 25, 2019 19:40

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

I�m hoping KSP 2 comes out earlier in 2020, I don�t really want to buy too much right now and that�s the only thing I�ve heard of that I really want to get into. Rocket League and TW:WH2 are holding me over until then ( I hope :ohdear:

)

# ¿ Aug 25, 2019 21:39

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Vasudus posted:

Steel Beams thirsty for pipe

Please don�t read my Grindr profile out loud, tia

# ¿ Aug 25, 2019 22:43

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Lest we forget about the patron saint of WoW, LEEEEROY JENNNKINS!!!!

https://youtu.be/mLyOj_QD4a4

# ¿ Aug 27, 2019 02:21

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Nostalgia4Ass posted:

The last time I heard the term "family style" was in the USMC thread OP and was in reference to barracks activities with young ladies. It's hard not to get a certain mental image when reading that menu.

Had the same thought

RIP Schneider, glad you checked that ID anyways

# ¿ Aug 27, 2019 22:08

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

EBB posted:

When I realized that I had stopped watching even streaming things I started to cancel services and have not looked back.

I�ve only got Hulu now, and I binge something every now and again. Could probably get away with canceling it, but every now and again I feel like watching 20 episodes of Futurama and I don�t have any of the DVD sets

# ¿ Aug 31, 2019 12:50

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Star Fox? F-Zero? Super Metroid? A Link to the Past? Mario Kart? loving Pilotwings? Go ahead and rummage around my childhood some more, I think you may have missed one or two :swoon:

# ¿ Sep 4, 2019 23:37

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Nostalgia4Dogges posted:

drat wish that�s what they had prepped Nintendo online for with initial release after they kept announcing and delaying it. Hard & lame NES ROMs are fun for like two minutes

Secret of Mana won�t be added cause the port. Chrono Trigger would be cool. Add Super Mario RPG to really complete the hype.

Also Soul Blazer per-personal request of me

Secret of Evermore, Megaman X3 (and 1 and 2...I guess), Super Mario RPG (I can still hear that drat battle music 24 years later :argh:

), and Chrono Trigger would really round it out for ~10 year old me.

# ¿ Sep 4, 2019 23:55

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Nostalgia4Dogges posted:

I know the hype train has already started but Super Mario RPG would be the turbo button. People have been asking for that poo poo since forever

I remember renting it, but forgot If it was fun or not�is it not just a nostalgia trap? Was the game a later cult classic, or just really that good outright?

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

its super fun

Yea, it was a shitload of fun. Princess Toadstool beating fools to death with a frying pan, a sentient cloud that causes rain when he cries, a possessed nutcracker doll sent by angry gods, and a gigantic sword that stabs its way through Bowser's Keep while laughing its rear end off. What's not to like?

# ¿ Sep 5, 2019 00:03

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Jfc Tetris is rolling strong.

# ¿ Sep 5, 2019 02:19

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

mega man x legacy 1 has mmx 1-4 on it. aka "the good ones and 4"

The boss music in X3 is perfect.

quote:

chrono trigger has a real shot. i want chrono cross too.

Prisoners of Fate (from the fight with Miguel) is such a sad remix of the overworld theme from 1000AD in Chrono Trigger. That entire sequence is so tragic, and everyone is locked in it...except for Miguel. The theme from the Kingdom of Zeal is available on iTunes to buy, as is the music that played when Azala was summoning Lavos and explaining why everyone was going to die horribly. The same one that the monster in one of the bars will play if you tell him to play something sad.

quote:

secret of evermore is a game square-enix has forgotten about because it was a western team who made it so who cares? we'll never see it again.

I had an emulated copy on a different computer a while back, at 10 I thought that the maps were huge but going back through it the various dungeons were like 3-4 screens across sometimes :laffo:

Mana, Evermore, Chrono Trigger, and Super Mario RPG were like the 4 best RPGs on SNES, it was a mini-golden age of RPGs from a single company that actually managed to make 4 different games and sequels that were actually good, and right in a row (without any misses).

# ¿ Sep 5, 2019 02:39

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Word is in the Doom thread that Doom: Eternal's map names, weapon list, and overall plot are floating around the internet now. Avert your eyes, maybe by playing Doom 2016 and going back to your favorite set of runes with the berserker pack, and that one level where you can clear an entire set of enemies with your fists alone? :getin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZGU_JdQAow

It's so goddamn gratuitous

# ¿ Sep 5, 2019 11:35

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Space Engineers is on sale this weekend. I don�t remember why or when I added it to my Steam wishlist, but I guess it looked cool at the time? Has anyone played it/does anyone know anything about it?

# ¿ Sep 5, 2019 19:59

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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 07:05

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

I have no idea how an SNES game (using essentially a glorified MIDI sound track) managed to produce some drat good game themes. UN Squadron sounds like it deserves a chance on the briefing song alone, Chrono Trigger has a shitload of good themes, the Super Metroid escape theme is my ringtone, and the music whenever Agahnim/Gannon are lecturing you in A Link to the Past is straight up menacing. Its all far better than it has any right to be.

# ¿ Sep 6, 2019 11:51

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