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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Just saw that Archer is getting moved over to FXX. I bet they're happy they got that three-season renewal now...

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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Mu Zeta posted:

I've seen critics say The Crown has amazing performances and that it's not the stuffy costume drama you think it is, except it's exactly one of those stuffy costume dramas. There's also ridiculous dramatic music during simple sequences like someone walking into a house or taking a boat ride. Watched 3 episodes so far and it's so loving boring.

The fourth episode is somehow even worse.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

What is the deal with season 5 of House of Cards anyway?

It'll probably drop at the end of February or the beginning of March, and two of the senior writers who joined the show in the third season stepped up to replace Beau Willimon.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Kraps posted:

Any recommendations for a show that feels like Leverage, meaning episode sized chunks that are semi-serious yet feel-good?

Burn Notice, Royal Pains, The Closer, Franklin & Bash.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Open Source Idiom posted:

And there's a fourth season planned as soon as Amazon loses their exclusive rights to produce the show (so around August this year, apparently).

Uh, what? Amazon doesn't have any production rights on the show. They were interested in producing a fourth season when NBC dropped the ax, but they insisted that it go into production almost immediately, which Fuller refused to do (he insisted on having a full season's worth of scripts written before they'd start filming, as he did with the previous three seasons).

Amazon has the exclusive streaming rights, which is what you might have been thinking of.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Shageletic posted:

So thinking about dropping Netflix after this month. Anything good on there? Doesnt seem like it.

House of Cards season 5 should come out end of February or early March. Series of Unfortunate Events looks pretty good. Most recent seasons of Bates Motel and Better Call Saul should probably drop by the end of February.

Of course, that's a difficult question to answer without knowing what you're looking for.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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I think the accent that Frasier and Niles use is more mid-Atlantic.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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So, we know that season 2 of American Crime Story will be about the aftermath of Katrina, and Ryan Murphy has said the third will be about the murder of Gianni Versace. Today, it was announced that the producers have optioned the book A Vast Conspiracy.

It's about the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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For those wondering, Netflix just announced that House of Cards S5 drops May 30.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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I wonder if they were late on starting production because of Willimon leaving.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Pan Dulce posted:

Ever have a supporting actor on a tv show leave because they think they can do better on another show as lead? Do either shows, the show they were on previously or the one they get into next ever succeed?

Terry Farrell left Deep Space Nine to star alongside Ted Danson in Becker, which had a decent run.

It's kind of cheating, but Steve Carell leaving The Daily Show for The Office, and Colbert leaving to do The Colbert Report, worked out pretty well for everyone.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Rageaholic Monkey posted:

Well that's ballsy :stare: Not quite 24's nuke going off in Los Angeles ballsy, but still!

Didn't that happen twice?

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Bruceski posted:

Ferguson was lightning in a bottle. I don't think even he could recreate what he had on that show.

He's got a live weekday "format-free" show starting on SiriusXM next week, in which he basically gets to do whatever the gently caress he wants for two hours every day. I'll be interested to see how that shakes out.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Josh Lyman posted:

I saw his stand up tour a couple years ago.

It was disappointing. :(

Really? I saw him in Madison back in ... I don't know, maybe November of 2014 and thought it was great.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Aphrodite posted:

I saw his TV special and it was torture.

I do think he's better when he has someone to play off of. His Late Late Show found its footing relatively quickly, but it didn't start becoming something really special until Geoff Peterson came along (and then it became next-level transcendence when they brought Josh Robert Thompson in to voice him live, instead of using a sound board).

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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Digital Jedi posted:

Someone posted a tweet few pages ago from X-Files. Having never watched the show decided to start it. On episode 5 and show is pretty cool. Enjoying Mulder's character a bit.

Tap out the moment people start babbling about super soldiers (season ... 7, I think, or maybe 6).

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Gobbeldygook posted:

Session 6 and 7 are still good. Season 8 is when it falls off a cliff and the super soldiers story starts.

I always tend to treat "Closure" as the actual series finale.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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precision posted:

Coming up next on CBS, the new hit show How I Got My Architect's Degree

You joke, but don't forget that CBS ordered a second How I Met Your Father pilot a few months ago, because apparently the first attempt like two years ago wasn't awful enough.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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precision posted:

Hahaha, seriously? I knew about the first one but missed that they're gonna try it again

Yeah, they commissioned the This Is Us creators to write and shoot a new pilot.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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How I Met Your Father is now dead for the second time, as the This Is Us writers who were working on it got promoted to executive producers on the show, so now they don't have the time.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Shageletic posted:

Anymore details on why Bryan Fuller left the project?

Nothing outside of the same stuff that already came out -- production kept getting delayed because Fuller kept delaying turning in scripts, CBS told him to poo poo or get off the pot, he walked to focus on American Gods and Amazing Stories..

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Norwegian Rudo posted:

It's Scott (Lumberjack Dexter) Buck.

Don't forget that Marvel Studios also put Scott (Lumberjack Dexter) Buck in charge of The Inhumans.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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TV Zombie posted:

I wonder why the FXnow app requires service provider information when the CW app doesn't. It just seems like a unnecessary hoop to follow in order to stream their videos.

Presumably because FX is on cable and therefore makes its money on subscriber fees, whereas CW is over-the-air broadcast?

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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bull3964 posted:

So, word is that Viacom is pulling out of Hulu's TV service before it even launches.

I would say their days on DirecTV Now are numbered unless they are giving them a pass since it's associated with traditional pay TV.

It's fascinating watching a media conglomerate commit suicide.

Didn't they just sign on with Hulu for the live-streaming backend like a few months ago after the initial month of All Access did a complete faceplant?

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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I know that Dexter is probably the gold standard for dramas, but is there a sitcom that flew off the rails so spectacularly as How I Met Your Mother? Those last three, maybe four seasons are just astounding in how bad they are.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Scrubs dipped in the sixth season and the seventh might possibly be one of the worst sitcom seasons in history, but it's redeemed by the eighth, which is pitch-perfect all around. Even the Med School season wasn't actively bad, just kind of ... weird.

Escobarbarian posted:

But HIMYM is absolutely the gold standard, especially the ending that retroactively ruined the entire show which is extremely rare

It's so bizarre in that they spent four years turning the main character into the most pathetic, sad-sack, creepy piece of poo poo since Ross Geller, and then in the finale he gets everything he ever wanted.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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swickles posted:

I honestly don't know about HIMYM's writing history, but did they have the same showrunner the whole time, or at least core writing staff?

Pamela Fryman directed all but like seven or eight episodes, and Carter Bays and Craig Thomas were in charge the entire time.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Rhyno posted:

I quit HIMYM after season 4, how'd it end?

The ninth season is all about Robin and Barney's wedding weekend.

The finale does a lot of time-jumping but, as I recall, they get divorced, Barney becomes a father from a random hookup, Ted and the Mother have their kids, then in voiceover Ted says that she got sick and died, and we see the scene where Ted and the Mother meet at the train station. After "and that, kids, is how I met your mother," then the kids convince Future Ted (Radnor in some of the most hilarious "aged" makeup I've ever seen, and it's horribly awkwardly stitched with footage of the kids shot in season 2) to go bang Robin, so he shows up at her door with the blue French horn, last shot is of him holding it up at her window smiling, cut to black.

So, short version: It's an hour-long wet fart in the middle of church.

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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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DrVenkman posted:

HIMYM is probably the good standard, and while those early seasons were pretty good, Lily never stopped being an awful, selfish and petty character.

Hers was definitely the first case of character assassination, while Marshall survived relatively unscathed until they turned him into a manchild (I've never been surprised that Segel was the last person to sign for the final season), but Ted is just the ultimate in "how can we make this guy even more loathsome?" (Especially beginning in the middle seasons, when they started adding in a ton of subtext to suggest that he'd been in love with Lily this whole time, too, not just Robin.)

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Snak posted:

My favorite thing related to it is Jason Segal giving it poo poo in This is the End.

Yeah, he was miserable on it for the last few years and made it clear around the seventh season that he'd fulfill his contract for the eighth and then walk. They finally convinced him to return with a decent pay raise and a promise that they'd give him some new meat to chew on (which is why he spends like 75 percent of the season trying to get to Farhampton for the wedding, instead of being with the gang for more of the same yet again).

Josh Lyman posted:

The first few seasons of HIMYM spoke to me in my mid-20s.

The Marshall / Lily breakup storyline is still hard for me to watch, because five years ago, that was me -- I got laid off and my wife and I were on the rocks, so rather than stick around in Wisconsin and fight, I took a job in Baltimore and lived there for a year (and I even said some of the same moronic "we need to find ourselves" bullshit). She didn't have to let me come back home.

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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Rhyno posted:

God drat it, NINE seasons?

After being on the brink of cancellation for the first few years (which is why they kept introducing potential backup Mothers like Victoria), it suddenly became a ratings hit and CBS desperately wanted to keep it going for as long as humanly possible.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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swickles posted:

HIMYM was strongest when dabbling in its own mythology. The Robin Sparkles/Slap Bet episodes are good because they escaped the typical sitcom stuff and weren't afraid to be a little weird. A lot of the moments meant to be sweet or heartwarming never landed for me, at least not as well as the same moments in a show like Parks and Rec. In fact, the only thing I remember from the show where I was like "thats a genuinely sweet thing to do" was Barney flying across country to get Lily back for Marshall, mainly because NPH nailed the whole thing. HIMYM is a frustrating show for me to talk about it. It had so much potential, and it reached it a few times, just enough to make me keep watching. Then just when I thought, ok this is just another average sitcom it took a big diarrhea poo poo all over itself in the last seasons.

Yeah, when it went whole hog with a concept episode, it was great. (Generally, anyway -- the last Slap Bet episode is just all sorts of terrible.) Like you said, the Robin Sparkles one, or when Robin "goes Canadian," or the "Murtaugh list." But, man, when it decided to take a poo poo on itself, like that abominable Band or DJ episode, holy poo poo could it get bad.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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MacheteZombie posted:

The final season still comes off a giant trolling exercise of an audience to me. It's so intentionally lovely to the audience.

I still think it was Bays and Thomas being just utterly stubborn about sticking to their plan. "drat it, we decided seven years ago that the kids were going to tell Ted to go bang Robin in 2030, and we filmed it, so, by God, we're going to use it."

:v: "Uh, we just spent the last, like, three or four seasons illustrating exactly why Ted and Robin are completely wrong for each other."

:yarr: "FULL POWER, drat YOU!"

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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DrVenkman posted:

Still, NPH was consistently pretty great, even when they gave him some very questionable things to work with.

Yeah, he always managed to make a complete sociopath / monstrous human being of a character watchable, which is impressive.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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GreenNight posted:

Probably not far after the writers gave Molder his porn addiction.

Doesn't that happen in, like, the second season, when Scully and the Lone Gunmen think Mulder's dead so they investigate his apartment?

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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X-O posted:

Which one of you asked for this poo poo?

The 20 million people or whatever who watch that show every week?

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Snak posted:

also, I lied: I cannot pick a favorite Mulder moment.

:drac: Get out of the car.
:v: Why? The upholstery's already ruined.
:drac: GET OUT OF THE CAR

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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raditts posted:

It's still fascinating to me how they took that episode where Barney emotionally manipulates Robin into accepting his proposal, complete with creepy-as-gently caress PUA-esque list of steps, and presented it as though it was supposed to be something the audience should be cheering on.

The worst part is that when Robin realizes how awful and manipulative and basically flat-out evil his scheme was, she freaks out on him and asks how she could ever be expected to trust him or want to be with him when he can be a monster like that -- but then when he breaks out the engagement ring, suddenly everything is OK and her heart melts.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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MacheteZombie posted:

That episode specifically feels like satire. It's too ridiculous to be romantic in anyway, but it's totally played like it is.

And then a few episodes later Robin finds out that Barney didn't burn the playbook, but kept it and burned a fake one, and when she storms off, he wins her back by basically saying, "Um, you've known me for eight years, all I do is lie. Lying is what I do. But I'm not lying when I say I love you." And then her heart melts again.

Like, come the gently caress on.

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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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MacheteZombie posted:

That was some awful poo poo.

Somewhere along the way (maybe after the first Barney / Robin breakup) they changed Barney from "sociopath who really does mean well for the people he cares about" to "unholy monster who no one should ever talk to," yet still expected the audience to cheer for him and be all, "Oh, what a lovable scamp" at his antics.

Oof.

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