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glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


grack posted:

So next step is fixing St. Louis' craptastic goaltending, right?

This more than coaching seems to be the problem to me, based solely on stats because I haven't watched the Blues hardly at all. They have 4th fewest shots on goal allowed, but are last in save %.

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Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

I hear this Ben Bishop is being shopped. Maybe we can trade him for a 3rd rounder again.

a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES

Vertical Lime posted:

https://twitter.com/AustinKarp/status/826792734363095043

now if only they offered it for not cablevision/comcast

oh my god finally

Technetium
Oct 26, 2006

TRILOBITE TECHNICIAN
QUITE POSSIBLY GAY

Zodijackylite posted:

loving finally!


No, this is dumb. You could look solely at stats and call it "a vicious and meaningless spike in goals-per-shot-on-goal allowed" or maybe they think their coach is doing a bad job which is causing this, like Dmitrij Jaskin, first line center. Was that real?

Maybe they should've fired the guy who thought Jake Allen and [insert backup goalie here] was a good tandem to start the season.

It was not.

He also signed the rapidly and seriously declining Steen to a multi year deal, traded away Oshie for jack poo poo, lost Backes and didn't replace him, signed Jake Allen long term for no apparent reason and mangled the coaching job beyond recognition. Hitch was not and is not the problem in St. Louis. Despite all this Hitch still coached them to a top 5 possession team, not his fault they have the 3rd worst save percentage of all teams.

Mike_V
Jul 31, 2004

3/18/2023: Day of the Dorks
Doug Armstrong sucks but do not blame him for Backes leaving. I would have been seriously pissed if he gave him the contract the Bruins gave him.

Seriously, look at the difference between last year's team and this year's team:

GONE:

David Backes
Troy Brouwer
Steve Ott (lol)
Brian Elliott

ADDED:

David Perron
Carter Hutton

Backes is a definite minus for this year and maybe next year, but David Perron has been playing way better than Brouwer. Ott being gone is addition by subtraction and Brian Elliott has been benched in favor of Chad Johnson. Jake Allen has completely fallen off a cliff in a way that seems attributable to a collapse in defensive systems (hello departure of Brad Shaw to Columbus!). The main issue with the team from my eye test is that they look like they have no idea what they're doing. Team defense is non-existent and players frequently are unable to complete simple passes. Their offensive system consisted of dump and chase and cycling the puck around the perimeter. This worked when they were winning board battles but they never win those this year and spend almost no time in the opponent's zone until they're down 5-1 and the opponents throw their lovely players on the ice, allowing the Blues to lose 5-3.

Mike_V fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Feb 1, 2017

Technetium
Oct 26, 2006

TRILOBITE TECHNICIAN
QUITE POSSIBLY GAY

Oh he shouldn't have kept Backes, but not solving the hole he left is an issue.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
I think it's fair to say that St. Louis has issues in a number of places but look on the bright side - you're not Canucks' fans!

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
Conor Sheary is out for 4-6 weeks apparently.

Welcome back to the top line, Chris Kunitz.

Duck Rodgers
Oct 9, 2012

Mike_V posted:

They fired Jim Corsi too, so maybe they will stop playing so goddamn deep in their net now.

Just goes to show that the old school 'plus minus' traditionalists are still in charge

fits
Jan 1, 2008

Love Always,
The Captain
stars traded for a goalie, technically

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/826875904886439937

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

both those guys coming from arizona suck

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Ginette Reno posted:

Conor Sheary is out for 4-6 weeks apparently.

Welcome back to the top line, Chris Kunitz.

please no :ohdear:

i actually really like having chris kunitz on the fourth line - he's legitimately good as a fourth line player, aside from it keeping him away from the top lines

though, with malkin out too, and the possibility of cullen not being back for the next game, it's pretty much inevitable that the penguins forward lines are going to be weird and probably bad though at least sullivan had the good sense to reunite crosby and hornqvist

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


ThinkTank posted:

Hitch just got fired a few months early. Yeo takes over straight away.

https://twitter.com/StLouisBlues/status/826792219654946816

AHHHH AFTER 10,000 YEARS I'M FREE

Oh who am I kidding, even though the coaching system has obviously been an issue, this team is still underperforming like crazy so I don't really expect much of a rebound here with the Power Ranger Yeo.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Bishop is available? Dallas traded for a goalie? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh... never mind.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Also, can anyone (with a totally serious face) explain to me the rationale behind the victory lap? Like, we're going to fire him and we have his replacement ready but, nah, one more year.

Mike_V
Jul 31, 2004

3/18/2023: Day of the Dorks

JoelJoel posted:

Also, can anyone (with a totally serious face) explain to me the rationale behind the victory lap? Like, we're going to fire him and we have his replacement ready but, nah, one more year.

Doug Armstrong is his best friend and no this hasn't hurt the Blues at all what are yo

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


Reminder that they pissed off Kirk Muller with the victory lap, leading to him leaving and oh man this team is a mess

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


Also apparently Brodeur and Ty Conklin are sharing goalie coach duties, so that sure is a thing that is happening.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Shadow Ninja 64 posted:

Reminder that they pissed off Kirk Muller with the victory lap, leading to him leaving and oh man this team is a mess

Kirk Muller is so cool :allears:

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Just start registering every puck anywhere near the net as a shot. That'll bulk up that save % real fast.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

JoelJoel posted:

Just start registering every puck anywhere near the net as a shot. That'll bulk up that save % real fast.

If it lands in the trapezoid, it's a shot!

Shots for everyone!

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Shadow Ninja 64 posted:

Also apparently Brodeur and Ty Conklin are sharing goalie coach duties, so that sure is a thing that is happening.

Both the Blues and Devils would be so much better off today if they'd just had the guts to say no to Marty just once in the last 8 years. He's been objectively terrible at everything he's done since about 2009, why does he keep getting opportunity after opportunity to royally gently caress up consequence free?

Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause
Sometimes it's hard to.....



trim the fat

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



in very rare positive fancy cats news, Huberdeau and Barkov both shed the non-contact jerseys. Barkov is skating with Jagr and Bjugstad so he should be back within a couple weeks. Huberdeau is eyeing week 1 of March. maybe their season is hosed but at least the last months can be more fun

DOOMocrat
Oct 2, 2003

hifi posted:

both those guys coming from arizona suck

they are to fill in for holes in the ECHL/AHL so

still every trade that is not a goalie above .900 is maddening

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

ThinkTank posted:

Both the Blues and Devils would be so much better off today if they'd just had the guts to say no to Marty just once in the last 8 years. He's been objectively terrible at everything he's done since about 2009, why does he keep getting opportunity after opportunity to royally gently caress up consequence free?

On the other hand the devils waiting so long meant they could get Schneider and really only lose out on a couple years of really great goaltending between the start of Marty's serious decline and the rise of Schneider's awesomeness (notwithstanding this season).

fits
Jan 1, 2008

Love Always,
The Captain
also from 30 thoughts friedman says cap likely to be flat next year :rip:

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Thufir
May 19, 2004

"The fucking Mayans were right."

ThinkTank posted:

Hitch just got fired a few months early. Yeo takes over straight away.

https://twitter.com/StLouisBlues/status/826792219654946816

It me, the guy that is wrong about everything.

edit: hey it is February now, we should get a new thread.

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