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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

csammis posted:

New Thread Bonus: I have this one filed away with my Asaekkiga comics but it looks completely different. I don't know where it came from!



These are Chewri Comics, (츄리닝) an anthology comic which I was translating at the same time I did Asaekkiga way back when I was still taking Korean classes maybe...four years ago? I recall the reception to these being more hit-and-miss, but that may have been because the translations were more low quality, and I couldn't explain the cultural context as well as I can now. As an example, I had no idea what a "Chewriring" was at that time, hence why I called them Chewri Comics. I now know that Chewriring is some sort of weird foreign load word for Tracksuit, so if I were translating these today, I would call them Tracksuit.





And why not, because apparently these are being stored on the same site that has It's All Right Chief Dharma.





Which is set in an office. It too is from South Korea.

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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Tracksuit





I'm sure I've posted these before but that's kind of unavoidable when starting from the beginning.

It's All Right Chief Dharma





Works better for this year really, since nothing makes sense anymore.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Kennel posted:

Arlo and Janis is probably my favorite modern strip in this thread.

Agreed. I e-mail them to my girlfriend sometimes because they're just such great valentines.

Safety Dance posted:

Is it just me, or does Chief Dharma often times seem like it's building up to one joke before switching tracks and making another? Like, in this one, I thought there was going to be a joke about ordering next year's cigarettes now, but no, instead it's a joke about him being behind societal change.

No, I get that impression a lot too. Can never tell if he does that on purpose or if we're just on different cultural wavelengths. The title, at least, is always a pretty clear clue.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Tracksuit





I remember this making no sense way back when but now that I know this is the first time the character appears, I'm guessing it's intended to establish his personality.

It's All Right Chief Dharma





This one should hopefully be easier to parse.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Tracksuit





Well, if you want to know when this comic was first written, it was back before the Seoul subway had automated ticket service. Whenever that was.

It's All Right Chief Dharma





...Or is it restructuring?

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

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It's All Right Chief Dharma



Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

WickedHate posted:

We caught up to releases of Pop Team Epic so I'm gonna start backwards from where I started last time(to keep it roughly in sync with the newer Honey Come Chatka). Gonna be hosed when we catch up to HCC, though. Gonna have to think of something to replace it.

I don't remember if you explained this or not, but where are you even finding these things? Is there a website somewhere publishing English versions of random Yonkoma?

Tracksuit





Last time I translated this, I confused which side was the hero. At that time I was unfamiliar with how cops in popular South Korean culture tend to look and act indistinguishable from gangsters unless the creative elements make a conscious decision to portray them in a straightforwardly heroic manner. So, the exact opposite of what we do. That's today's lesson in non-intuitive cultural differences.

It's All Right Chief Dharma





Christmas was two weeks ago, so hopefully this won't be too much.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

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It's All Right Chief Dharma



Some Guy TT fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Jan 10, 2017

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

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It's All Right Chief Dharma



Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Tracksuit





So is this a metaphorical representation of the same guy we've seen up until now or is this just literally every friendship Baek-ho has? Former seems more likely, but the latter would be funnier.

It's All Right Chief Dharma



There's a new drawing of Chief Dharma at the top, and a bigger picture of the dancing image. I remember someone asking for one of those years ago.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

WickedHate posted:

Come on True, that was on you, shoulda tipped the guy.

Tipping wasn't common custom at the time, just a fad designed to make consumers feel like rich benefactors. Labor movements opposed it, counter-intuitive though that must sound, because of the belief that it discouraged class consciousness and made it easier for managers to justify low salaries by passing costs on to the customer. And they ended up being right about that. Modern tipping is little more than an extra informal tax at restaurants, which is why no one does it outside the United States.

Tracksuit



Yep, untranslatable pun.



Horror translates pretty well though.

It's All Right Chief Dharma



I like Miss Han's deadpans. Never get to mention that, since they're never full punchlines.



"Porn" doesn't really work because as was seen previously, the word in question more generally just means eroticisms, like good cleavage.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Tracksuit





It's All Right Chief Dharma



Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Tiggum posted:

Do you? What is it?

The Chargers are moving to Los Angeles this year. They've been in flux for awhile now because the dirtbag billionaire owner has been trying to extort the city of San Diego into buying a stadium for him. The situation has been going on for awhile now, so it was real bad judgment on the part of the writer to pick that particular team out of thirty-two for this plot point

I know all this because greater San Diego is my hometown. I'm kind of sad the football team that's been there for my whole childhood is gone now, but at the same time I'm proud of the region for telling the Chargers management to go gently caress themselves instead of handing out corporate welfare. The situation is not likely to end well for the Spanos family, since by all accounts Los Angeles doesn't even care about the football team they just got that actually has a history there, so it's hard to see them putting much money into ours.

Tracksuit





I like how this comic keeps reminding me what the characters' names are because otherwise I would totally forget.

It's All Right Chief Dharma





Here's a good test case for knowing whether or not a problem is caused by Korean culture. If it has to be explained to people not yet in the workforce, that's corporate culture, not national culture.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Tracksuit





It's All Right Chief Dharma



Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

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It's All Right Chief Dharma



Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Transmodiar posted:

Modesty Blaise




More than the art, more than the racism, what really irritates me about this arc is that Modesty and Willy only barely seem able to deal with a bunch of idiot rednecks. These are some of the least intimidating villains we've ever seen in this comic but they're just so insanely lucky.

Tracksuit





...I don't need to explain this one again do I?

It's All Right Chief Dharma





The police have a really bad reputation in South Korea for just not giving a poo poo unless they have an excuse to break out the SWAT team. Of course we have the exact same problem but, eh, maybe not the best day to discuss politics.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

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It's All Right Chief Dharma



Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

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It's All Right Chief Dharma



Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

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It's All Right Chief Dharma



Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Aardmania posted:

Heathcliff


You know, this is the same functional "joke" that Gilchrist uses all the time, yet these cameos never really bother me so much in Heathcliff. Maybe it's because they're not as obtrusive, or maybe it' just feels less out of place in Heathcliff's surreal environment.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Tracksuit





It's All Right Chief Dharma



Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Tracksuit



I'm sure I'm quoting these wrong, since I'm not the kind of person who remembers quotes from the Godfather movies.



So yeah, the joke's an untranslatable pun. Combination consonants are not normally used in the Korean language even with foreign words, so phonetically "Robert" is identical to "Robot".

It's All Right Chief Dharma



No matter how many times I see it happen I can't get used to the idea that in South Korea corporations are considered to have obligations to the employees, not the shareholders. I mean yeah it never works out that way in practice anyway but still.



Another untranslatable pun. The President's name is being written in such a way on the front page to look like an adverb, as that word is phonetically mostly indistinguishable from his actual name. Incidentally I don't think his name has ever been mentioned before and it appears to have surfaced here for the sole purpose of making a pun.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

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It's All Right Chief Dharma



Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Tracksuit





That's all for today. I'm tired, and I have a lot more of these than I do the Dharmas anyway.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

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It's All Right Chief Dharma



Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

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It's All Right Chief Dharma





edit: that was a more clever way of calling attention to a mistake than usual.

double edit: ...and I fixed it with the wrong file. Whoops.

Some Guy TT fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Feb 11, 2017

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Tracksuit





"Pepper" is slang for penis.

It's All Right Chief Dharma





And that's why you gotta go fast.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

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It's All Right Chief Dharma



Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

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It's All Right Chief Dharma



Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Evil Mastermind posted:

Working Daze stands unnaturally.


Uh...aren't most sports cooperative? Like, even the track team pools together points to win their dual meets. I can't tell if that was supposed to be the joke or if Working Daze is just the latest in a long line of comics that somehow doesn't understand even the most basic premises of athletic games.

Tracksuit





I like to look at this as "Marketing! They'll do it every time!"

It's All Right Chief Dharma





...And there you go. The true ending. Now I'm left wondering what to replace it with, if anything. I could keep following along with the repeats in the giant white space format. Or, I could look for older ones in the original format myself and translate them at random. They're fairly easy to find, just not in any coherent order.

Park Seong-hoon's first comic, Bean Flour, is a possibility, but they lack a chronological source and are more difficult to find than older Dharmas in general because of the comic's generic name. I'm guessing that Bean Flour, like Dharma, was published in a newspaper somewhere, but I don't know which one.

There's also Mother From Another Country. All three seasons of it are fully archived. The third season is the project that succeeded It's All Right Chief Dharma. That one, though, was a webcomic from the very beginning, although it uses a standardized format as opposed to the infinite canvas most commonly utilized by South Korean webcomics.

Or I could just stop posting. Which is probably what would have happened if I'd hit the ending a couple months ago. I'm probably game for the rest of the year at least if anyone still wants me around.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Tracksuit





The first time I posted this no one got it, even me. But now it seems really obvious, not even anything to do with the translation.

Mother From Another Country



No one actually asked for this, but it seems kind of inappropriate to post old Dharmas at the moment, since the ending made everyone feel so warm and fuzzy. Thoughts?

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Tracksuit





Note where she's pointing.

Mother From Another Country



Finally, characters goons from everywhere can relate to.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

PewdiePie was an LPer? It was never clear to me what exactly he did. His voice was so annoying I was always impatient for his ads to end. Also, didn't he participate in one of those stupid Hillary endorsement videos, or am I thinking of some other generic YouTube "celebrity"?

Tracksuit





Well at least winter's almost over.

Mother From Another Country



They have to have subtitles for normal Korean whenever these people show up in TV documentaries.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

gleebster posted:

So what are you saying? I don't know anything about poopieguy, so are you happy he is whatever, or not so happy that whatever?

Oh, and why the gently caress should I, an adult human, care about poopie?

Command Ant wasn't the one who brought the subject up. Frankly the relationship of the PewdiePie story with the Blondie comic that provoked the discussion was tangential at best. Also unnecessarily cryptic. I was the first one to actually mention PewdiePie by name, to the point I was wondering if the thread was talking about some other YouTuber. The Wall Street Journal story broke a week ago.

EasyEW posted:

Crankshaft



Is this actually being printed in newspapers? How? Seems like it would completely break the formatting.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Well yeah. But that would look silly.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Tracksuit





So, is this what the Rowdy Ringsports subforum is like?

Mother From Another Country



On the other end I used to read Much Ado About Nothing back when it was still E/N and I'm guessing it's still the same.

Some Guy TT fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Feb 21, 2017

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Tracksuit





So the goofy kid from boot camp knows the other two guys. Didn't notice that before, although half the time these characters are just models for generic jokes anyway.

Mother From Another Country



People tend to be nice to me, for what that's worth, and I go to some pretty weird places. But yeah, I have absolutely pulled that scam before, especially when I'm having a lovely day.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Stultus Maximus posted:

Retail has gotten better since then, though Gil is still missed.

Writing as someone who used to hate Retail (and has never worked retail), the strip is definitely much better now than it was during my hiatus from the thread. One factor with that has to be that Feuti got rid of that guy with glasses everyone was always dunking on. The whole plot arc with literally everyone getting pissy at him for successfully negotiating a raise was the strip's low point and it's much better when Feuti is focusing on the real villain- corporate.

For what it's worth I always thought Dilbert was kind of a jerk, which is why I never really get why people think the current version is significantly different than the nineties one. Aside from the advances in technology this whole thing with the legacy system seems like exactly the kind of sad purgatory that was always the foundation of the strip's jokes. Retail treads a much finer line because it's expecting us to distinguish between sympathetic and unsympathetic characters.

Tracksuit





I'm assuming this is some sort of riff on The Defiant Ones.

Mother From Another Country



I have no idea why she's calling it that considering that the Mother From Another Country is obviously not Canadian.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

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Mother From Another Country

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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Safety Dance posted:

Could Ottawa be the family name, like 오타와?

(I screwed around for five minutes trying to figure out how to assemble the hangul syllables before I realized I could plug that into google translate)

As in her family name? It's possible. I've never heard of that being a family name before though. Her husband and son's family name is 변, which creates a weird pun I have no clue how to translate. The son's name reads as 변기통 or "bathroom wastebasket", and it took me a minute to realize that was actually his name.

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