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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN: Jun 26, 2009

Cartoon posted:

ADF culture is completely toxic? Say it isn't so.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-04/insulting-training-material-was-in-relation-to-west-papua/8162284
Marise, you had one job!

Having been on numerous ADF sites and courses this does not surprise me at all. The ADF attitude to Indonesia is paternalistic at best. It is none the less an outstanding failure of diplomacy to not be able to placate Indonesia after a month of trying. Or given our clown car government maybe they didn't think it was important enough to expend much effort. On the flip side not being complicit with Indonesia's brutal repression in West Papua would be a nice change of pace. Ah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah. Like this government or indeed nation gives a single rats arse about that. Just keep chucking cheap Bali booze at our culturally insensitive unwashed and keep those wretched brown poors that are fleeing from our oil wars your side of the loving ditch. I mean is it really that hard monkey men?

It was probably a regimental thing, the adf love those. Dog from footrot flats pissing on an indonesian badge or something, most likely

# ? Jan 5, 2017 02:33

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# ? Apr 16, 2024 18:28

Tarantula: Nov 4, 2009; No go ahead stand in the fire, the healer will love the shit out of you.

NPR Journalizard posted:

ftfy

Woah woah how dare you criticize my poo poo.

# ? Jan 5, 2017 02:38

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-05/poker-machines-set-alight-royal-hotel-beenleigh/8162808

Hero.

# ? Jan 5, 2017 02:49

Graic Gabtar: Dec 19, 2014; squat my posts

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-05/poker-machines-set-alight-royal-hotel-beenleigh/8162808

Half of me says that's a stupid and dangerous act that not only destroyed property and could have also endangered lives.

The other half wants to high five him.

# ? Jan 5, 2017 05:13

Recoome: Nov 9, 2013; Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Won't someone please think of the pokie machines :qq:

# ? Jan 5, 2017 07:21

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

Centrelink Twitter Account: Now referring people to LIFELINE to discuss their debts due to their call centres always begin full

https://twitter.com/Centrelink/status/816541740026892288
https://twitter.com/Centrelink/status/814717174690422784

"Centrelink has been directing people to Lifeline in the wake of its automated debt recovery system hitting welfare recipients with erroneous debt letters."

# ? Jan 5, 2017 09:20

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

Angry customer training indeed!

# ? Jan 5, 2017 09:21

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

They should add Lifeline to your signature

# ? Jan 5, 2017 09:26

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

Probably a good idea since I live in fear of getting a lovely misguided letter.

# ? Jan 5, 2017 09:29

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

Top Marxist's Plea: Kill the rich, not yourself.

# ? Jan 5, 2017 09:43

Recoome: Nov 9, 2013; Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

hooman posted:

Top Marxist's Plea: Kill the rich, not yourself.

# ? Jan 5, 2017 10:27

Recoome: Nov 9, 2013; Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Obviously I am not actually condoning violence against the borgies, it's a joke ASIS/FBI/SS

# ? Jan 5, 2017 10:28

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013

I will.

# ? Jan 5, 2017 10:31

Cartoon: Jun 20, 2008; poop

Recoome posted:

Obviously I am not actually condoning violence against the borgies, it's a joke ASIS/FBI/SS

It's alright comrade we have decyphered your cunning code :commissar:

# ? Jan 5, 2017 10:44

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy
(and can't post for 7 days!)

Recoome posted:

Obviously I am not actually condoning violence against the borgies, it's a joke ASIS/FBI/SS

Lol if you think they'd be reading this instead of jacking it to internet porn on the taxpayer dollar.

# ? Jan 5, 2017 11:21

Nibbles!: Jun 26, 2008; TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

make australia great again as well please

I must confess I'm really out of the loop as far as standard media goes. Is this a big mainstream story? Reddit has been melting down for weeks over it now and I imagine half of the media pulls their stories from there these days.

# ? Jan 5, 2017 11:29

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Some loving piece of poo poo racist has gone and assaulted families in a park in Coburg. It's all on video, but Fairfax has decided to blur his face to protect his identity because he was drunk at the time and apparently that removes all responsibility. loving shitheels.

The guy is also known to police for
Similar prior incidents

Solemn Sloth fucked around with this message at 12:08 on Jan 5, 2017

# ? Jan 5, 2017 12:03

Negative Entropy: Nov 30, 2009

Cartoon posted:

ADF culture is completely toxic? Say it isn't so.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-04/insulting-training-material-was-in-relation-to-west-papua/8162284
Marise, you had one job!

Having been on numerous ADF sites and courses this does not surprise me at all. The ADF attitude to Indonesia is paternalistic at best. It is none the less an outstanding failure of diplomacy to not be able to placate Indonesia after a month of trying. Or given our clown car government maybe they didn't think it was important enough to expend much effort. On the flip side not being complicit with Indonesia's brutal repression in West Papua would be a nice change of pace. Ah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah. Like this government or indeed nation gives a single rats arse about that. Just keep chucking cheap Bali booze at our culturally insensitive unwashed and keep those wretched brown poors that are fleeing from our oil wars your side of the loving ditch. I mean is it really that hard monkey men?

The ADF is trying hard to change and be more culturally respectable, after numerous scandals an effort is being made, but that doesn't extend to the minister.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-05/indonesia-softens-military-suspension-with-australia/8164440?pfmredir=sm

oh wait, we're buddy buddies again.

# ? Jan 5, 2017 12:06

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy
(and can't post for 7 days!)

Pretty hard to remove the rot in any organisation when it's rampant at the top.

# ? Jan 5, 2017 12:19

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Get it together fairfax.

Solemn Sloth posted:

Some loving piece of poo poo racist has gone and assaulted families in a park in Coburg. It's all on video, but Fairfax has decided to blur his face to protect his identity because he was drunk at the time and apparently that removes all responsibility. loving shitheels.

The guy is also known to police for
Similar prior incidents

Andrew Bolt's holiday not going well.

# ? Jan 5, 2017 12:32

Negative Entropy: Nov 30, 2009

DancingShade posted:

Pretty hard to remove the rot in any organisation when it's rampant at the top.

which is why this happened

https://youtu.be/QaqpoeVgr8U

# ? Jan 5, 2017 12:33

Recoome: Nov 9, 2013; Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Solemn Sloth posted:

Some loving piece of poo poo racist has gone and assaulted families in a park in Coburg. It's all on video, but Fairfax has decided to blur his face to protect his identity because he was drunk at the time and apparently that removes all responsibility. loving shitheels.

The guy is also known to police for
Similar prior incidents

Post the video

# ? Jan 5, 2017 12:42

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy
(and can't post for 7 days!)

Kommando posted:

which is why this happened

https://youtu.be/QaqpoeVgr8U

In his day Morisson would have been terrifying on the parade ground. loving terrifying.

Anyway this is a good example of what happens with institutional rot:
http://www.news.com.au/national/ten-face-action-over-sea-king/news-story/b4af91be64465fe4558a50fb77ad1843

I realise the article is highly nonspecific in details but tracking down a copy of the actual official report is non trivial so I leave that up to anyone interested. It's a very informative read though because of how it outlines all the ways an institution with good policies & procedures can fail because of unofficially accepted bad practice.
The fact it took a number of actual loving deaths to get anyone to address it is the problem. That's what it takes for people to officially acknowledge serious problems in order to address them - multiple deaths.

# ? Jan 5, 2017 13:01

Recoome: Nov 9, 2013; Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Solemn Sloth posted:

Some loving piece of poo poo racist has gone and assaulted families in a park in Coburg. It's all on video, but Fairfax has decided to blur his face to protect his identity because he was drunk at the time and apparently that removes all responsibility. loving shitheels.

The guy is also known to police for
Similar prior incidents

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/people-must-stand-up-against-these-things-man-films-racial-tirade-at-coburg-park-20170105-gtmfp3.html

thats pretty loving hectic

# ? Jan 5, 2017 13:17

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

Recoome posted:

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/people-must-stand-up-against-these-things-man-films-racial-tirade-at-coburg-park-20170105-gtmfp3.html

thats pretty loving hectic

Oh yes, there's that magnificent playful banter with Greek immigrants because Australians are just like that and why won't these other immigrants just toughen up it's all a bit of fun.

# ? Jan 5, 2017 13:27

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

quote:

Federal Health Minister Susan Ley buys Gold Coast flat on taxpayer-funded trip

FEDERAL Health Minister Sussan Ley charged taxpayers thousands of dollars for a trip to Queensland with her husband during which she bought a $795,000 Gold Coast investment property.

Government documents reveal in May 2015, after announcing at Brisbane�s Wesley Hospital $1.3 billion in funding to list new medicines and vaccines, Ms Ley went to the affluent suburb of Main Beach.

She billed taxpayers $370 on her travel allowance to stay the night on the Gold Coast with her partner, on the same day she bought the ocean-view apartment.

Ms Ley confirmed to the Herald Sun the property was bought during the trip, which she declared was for �official business�.

She said the apartment purchase �was not planned nor anticipated�.

�All travel undertaken was in accordance with the rules,� a spokeswoman for Ms Ley said.

Ms Ley�s office would not confirm whether the investment property had been negatively geared.

Her office also refused to say whether $268.30 for chauffeur services, which was also charged to taxpayers, had been used by the couple to travel the 80km to Main Beach.

Ms Ley�s spokeswoman said the couple had travelled to the Gold Coast because the minister had �stakeholders to meet with�.

Ms Ley�s office would not provide the Herald Sun with a list of these people.

Ms Ley�s spokeswoman said the minister�s partner had been invited to accompany her to a function in Sydney the �previous evening.

�He then travelled with the minister to Queensland under family travel arrangements.

�The EMB (Entitlements Management Branch) was consulted at the time to confirm Ms Ley�s partner�s travel was within the rules,� she said.

One source told the Herald Sun that Ms Ley�s partner negotiated the sale.

In total, the couple claimed a sum of $3949 in flights for the 48-hour trip.

A code of conduct states ministers must not use their �office for private purposes and �due economy is to be observed at all times�.

The Herald Sun recently revealed Ms Ley spent more than $12,000 chartering a private jet to fly to the Gold Coast for a meeting last year.

It is less than a week since the Federal Government moved to restrict access to the aged pension for 300,000 older Australians.

http://www.hitlersun.com.au/news/fe...cf3b225300c16a9

# ? Jan 5, 2017 13:31

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy
(and can't post for 7 days!)

Well who doesn't impulse buy an 800k apartment? Nothing to see here, move along.

*wipes arse with $100 notes taken from ATM using official travel card*

# ? Jan 5, 2017 13:36

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy
(and can't post for 7 days!)

You know, in retrospect Bishop's helicopter joyride is looking like a loving bargain.

# ? Jan 5, 2017 13:46

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

I've made some dumb impulse purchases but gold coast real estate isn't one of them.

# ? Jan 5, 2017 13:47

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy
(and can't post for 7 days!)

Yeah my last impulse buy was a pair of $180 headphones off amazon (DT990s, they're good) and either she's got so much silver up her arse that 800k is literally lunch money or she's a bare faced liar.

I'm thinking it's mostly the latter because if $800k was lunch money you'd send an agent to make such a purchase,

# ? Jan 5, 2017 13:50

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

https://twitter.com/LachlanHeywood/status/816991689260707840

# ? Jan 5, 2017 14:36

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

quote:

One Nation chaos: website static and staff quitting

Pauline Hanson�s One Nation party has been unable to update the body of its website since October last year when a key figure in the organisation, Saraya Beric, was pushed out, stunning even diehard One Nation loyalists.

The young Brisbane woman turned her hand from playing the violin for a living to running Senator Hanson�s online and social media strategy during last year�s federal election campaign. She worked 16-hour days to manage the party�s Albion headquarters on a shoestring. Loyalty? It runs only one way in One Nation, Ms Beric complained yesterday, speaking publicly of her disillusionment with Ms Hanson.

The dysfunction behind the scenes has also hit the office of NSW senator Brian Burston, whose former personal assistant Diana Allen unloaded to The Australian yesterday. Party co-founder David Ettridge and former president and national treasurer Ian Nelson continue to take potshots at Senator Hanson and her high-profile lieutenant, James Ashby.

This was capped by the altercation on Tuesday outside a Perth court in which former One Nation senator Rod Culleton claims to have been assaulted by ex-state Liberal parliamentarian Anthony Fels, who wants to contest a seat in the March 11 West Australian election for One Nation. Police are investigating the incident that left Senator Culleton nursing bruises and a sprained wrist.

The One Nation website has not been updated since August 15 because, Ms Beric said, the offices of the three remaining senators did not pass on news to party headquarters. Only two of the 36 candidates introduced recently by Senator Hanson for a Queensland election expected this year have their profiles up.

Ms Beric, 32, resigned her �office-bearer positions as �national and Queensland secretary on October 13 last year and was locked out of the site but with the know-how to run it. The page templates and codes to update it were �all in my head�, she said yesterday, breaking her silence about the drama inside the Hanson camp.

She emphasised that she did not �spit the dummy�, but the situation had become untenable.

She was told that her authorisation to do any other work as a fulltime contractor had been withdrawn, and she should leave what she was doing to get the party registered for the WA election.

�I am disappointed at the treatment of some people in the party,� she said. �I am disappointed that the party seems to have swayed away from its principles and values, but there are some great candidates still involved and I hope that they will stay true to themselves and the Australian people.�

Diana Allen lasted only seven weeks in Senator Burston�s office, and said she quit after claiming the chief-of-staff referred to her as a �petulant princess�.

�That�s not how you talk to a woman of 50,� she said from her Lane Cove home in Sydney.

Senator Hanson hit back yesterday at Mr Nelson and Ms Beric, saying they had �their noses out of joint� through missing out on jobs following the election. She agreed she had been a friend of 66-year-old Mr Nelson � though not a close one � and that he had approached her to rejoin the party when it was revived in 2013. �He has just turned and is basically a lonely man,� Senator Hanson said. �One Nation was basically his whole life. He has no one in his life and now that he has lost this, he has � become bitter and nasty. I�ve got no time for him.�

As for Ms Beric, who worked 16-hour days during the election for a gross salary of $800 a week, Senator Hanson said: �Saraya was vying for a job in the parliamentary office, which I told her she wasn�t capable of doing.�

Ms Beric disputed this yesterday. After Senator Hanson asked her to set aside her music career, she became �Jacky of all trades� in One Nation, managing the office in Brisbane, taking on the roles of IT fixer, candidate manager during the election as well as social media manager and office-bearer.

When Mr Nelson went into bat for her to get a raise, Mr Ashby offered to increase her pay to $50,000 a year. Mr Nelson said this was insulting; forthright �discussions with Senator Hanson ensued.

Ms Beric said, however, that Senator Hanson never spoke to her about a new role and she had not sought one on the parliamentary staff.

She had wanted to focus on marketing and online work. �Pauline just sent James to talk to me,� Ms Beric said. �If she was told I wanted a job with her, that was not the case. She has not bothered to have a conversation with me.�

Mr Nelson said: �I was disgusted by how Saraya was treated and told them so. I couldn�t stand how the place was being run, and I�m not the only one.�

The man who replaced Ms Beric as office manager and Mr Nelson as treasurer, Senator Hanson�s brother-in-law Greg Smith, said he couldn�t say why they had severed their links with the party.

Mr Nelson handed in his membership card last August, ending a 20-year association with One Nation in which he also served as state director of the pivotal Queensland division.

�It�s the same for any business: if you lose people they have to be replaced,� Mr Smith said. �That�s just the nature of the business. People leave for many reasons.�

Ms Allen said she had worked for media companies and top corporates including Leighton Contractors, Siemens and Honeywell Group, and was appalled by the chaos in One Nation.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...59293559130d11f

# ? Jan 5, 2017 14:45

Futuresight: Oct 11, 2012; IT'S ALL TURNED TO SHIT!

People need to start realising that the waiter rule works for immigrants, homosexuals, and every other minority or disadvantaged group too. The way people treat those they can get away with treating badly reflects who they are. People like Pauline will gently caress you every chance they get because they're just lovely people. It should not be a surprise to anyone.

# ? Jan 5, 2017 20:07

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...59293559130d11f

Unfortunately this is all too common in any organization when they think they're on the way up. They'll probably get taxpayer money to just start a new site and wipe that one. Burning people like that won't help when they get into trouble, though.

# ? Jan 5, 2017 20:30

Negative Entropy: Nov 30, 2009

DancingShade posted:

In his day Morisson would have been terrifying on the parade ground. loving terrifying.

Anyway this is a good example of what happens with institutional rot:
http://www.news.com.au/national/ten-face-action-over-sea-king/news-story/b4af91be64465fe4558a50fb77ad1843

I realise the article is highly nonspecific in details but tracking down a copy of the actual official report is non trivial so I leave that up to anyone interested. It's a very informative read though because of how it outlines all the ways an institution with good policies & procedures can fail because of unofficially accepted bad practice.
The fact it took a number of actual loving deaths to get anyone to address it is the problem. That's what it takes for people to officially acknowledge serious problems in order to address them - multiple deaths.

oh I figured you were meaning cultural insensitivity, racism and sexism.

With word of One Nation forming a coalition with the Qld LNP and now burning down internally, we can only hope they burn together.

# ? Jan 5, 2017 22:36

Recoome: Nov 9, 2013; Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Speaking about racist bigots in a park, here's the first ultranationalist rally being held in the Brisbane area since 2015. Allthough the event page makes no mention of it, the rally is just near an Islamic centre/mosque.

Restore Australia is Mike Holt's crew, notable for jointly organising the last ultranationalist shindig with Reclaim Australia on the 22/11/15 in Brisbane CBD (Emma Miller Place to be exact). They've been pretty quiet after that, especially since they failed to attract the crowds of last time and also were drowned out pretty well (protesting matters). The location is definitely strategic, as being closer to Brisbane would probably provoke a stronger counter-protest (and there are definitely enough mosques around).

Idk about the turn out, however, seeing as it's been ages since they last held a public rally coupled with the relative remoteness of the locale (it's not really a prominant location, other than the mosque). Both sides (if there is a counter-protest) will probably have reduced numbers so I don't know whether this rally will have much of an impact (lol made me post tho)

# ? Jan 6, 2017 05:00

snoremac: Jul 27, 2012; I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.

Could anyone recommend some good history books on the colonization of Australia or the history of Indigenous Australians? I'm reading books about the horrible histories of other colonized countries and figured I should probably read about my own, which I only know about in broad strokes. I'd preferably want it to be available as an ebook on Kindle but recommend anything as long as it's not Andrew Boltish.

# ? Jan 6, 2017 05:35

EoinCannon: Aug 29, 2008; Grimey Drawer

snoremac posted:

Could anyone recommend some good history books on the colonization of Australia or the history of Indigenous Australians? I'm reading books about the horrible histories of other colonized countries and figured I should probably read about my own, which I only know about in broad strokes. I'd preferably want it to be available as an ebook on Kindle but recommend anything as long as it's not Andrew Boltish.

Fatal Shore by Robert Hughes is pretty good for the history of convict transportation.
Dancing with Strangers by Inga Clendinnen focuses more on the indigenous tribes, I haven't read it all yet but it seems pretty good.

# ? Jan 6, 2017 05:50

open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

These might not be what you're looking for, but a few books on the subject that I've read and enjoyed are: History of Australian Land Settlement, 1788-1920 , A Million Wild Acres , Botany Bay Mirages, The limits of hope, Settlers and the Agrarian Question: Capitalism in Colonial Australia.

None of these really focus on Indigenous Australia from an Indigenous perspective, so hopefully someone can recommend something that does.

open24hours fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Jan 6, 2017

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Cartoon: Jun 20, 2008; poop

http://www.kooriweb.org/foley/resources/pdfs/197.pdf

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