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Cymbal Monkey
Apr 16, 2009

Lift Your Little Paws Like Antennas to Heaven!


Gothic folk/folk-noir has been coming back recently, lead by a charge of mostly women putting out some of the best albums in any genre of the last few years. What is gothic folk? Well basically it's miserable folk songs with Robert Smith on guitar and borrowing all sorts of stylistic elements from old school goth, doom and industrial. It's been simmering for a while but lately there's been a glut of this stuff and I couldn't be happier because I loving love it. So what's good? Well...



Chelsea Wolfe is probably the patron saint of folk noir and one of the people who's setting the standard for the genre. She uses tons of electronics and brings a massive doom influence, especially on Abyss.




Emma Ruth Rundle is a prolific musician who's been going since 2008 with her first band The Nocterns, had a brief stint in post-rock band Red Sparowes, had a short lived downtempo project called The Headless Prince of Zolpidem and currently plays in Marriages. She's only recently started putting stuff out under her own name but both albums have been completely mind blowing. Some Heavy Ocean is a bit more traditionally folk, while Marked For Death brings a ton of her post-punk guitar work over from Marriages.




Marissa Nadler is much softer and dreamier than a lot of the other musicians pushing this style forward, but the atmosphere is all there.




Katie Kim was one of my favourite discoveries of last year when I got a press release for her new album, Salt, which blends drone, minimalist electronics and lovely piano melodies.




Jayn H. Wissenberg aka. Darkher. Ever wondered what Black Sabbath would sound like if they replaced Ozzy with PJ Harvey? Wonder no more.

Cymbal Monkey fucked around with this message at Jan 14, 2017 around 12:56

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chunkles
Aug 14, 2005

let's head to ruin!!


Bless you Cymbal Monkey

Captain Hotbutt
Aug 18, 2014


Would AURORA count?



She's Norwegian, and her music has a lot of death/dark/sad imagery associated with it. Her latest album's called "All My Demons Greeting Me As a Friend" and there are sad/emotionally noir-ish songs with titles like "Running With The Wolves" and "Murder Song"

She's only 20 years old and might be a little more poppy/blonde than the others that were mentioned, but I feel she still fits. There's a confidence in her songwriting, and she showed off her metal/doom/gloom bonafides in an All Songs Considered interview.

Life on Mars (David Bowie Cover)

Murder Song (5,4,3,2,1)

Winter Bird

Runaway

divabot
Jun 17, 2015
DO NOT BELIEVE THIS MAN'S LIE!
Statist shill spreading FUD!

HODL!!


like neofolk with women instead of Nazis? This sounds worthwhile.

(perennial lol: Bandcamp artists tagging their stuff "neofolk" then discovering what it actually is)

Cymbal Monkey
Apr 16, 2009

Lift Your Little Paws Like Antennas to Heaven!


divabot posted:

like neofolk with women instead of Nazis? This sounds worthwhile.

(perennial lol: Bandcamp artists tagging their stuff "neofolk" then discovering what it actually is)

It's not always Nazis! Current 93 weren't Nazis! Probably!



Captain Hotbutt posted:

Would AURORA count?

I'd say Aurora probably counts, though I'm not gonna sit around and be thread arbiter.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



divabot posted:

like neofolk with women instead of Nazis? This sounds worthwhile.

(perennial lol: Bandcamp artists tagging their stuff "neofolk" then discovering what it actually is)

Is your whole thing just posting your tepid neofolk opinions in different threads

A LOVELY LAD
Feb 8, 2006

Hey man, wanna hear a secret?



Miserable is shoegazey band by Kristina Esfandiari who was breiflly in Whirr and also fronts Doom band King Woman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJhygc0jz7Y
https://miserablegrl.bandcamp.com/

Nina Natasia is supposedly still ongoing but hasn't realeased anything since 2010.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_VNaThCRJc

Wovenhand is another band of the guy from 16 horsepower who could also probabaly be classed as folk noir.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPJjVYimkeM

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003



im going to start tagging all of my albums on bandcamp with "neofolk" in hopes divabot will write some crap article about me

anyway here's some good Folk-noir

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx4z9V2hydQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP4BnfUm0eI

divabot
Jun 17, 2015
DO NOT BELIEVE THIS MAN'S LIE!
Statist shill spreading FUD!

HODL!!


Earwicker posted:

im going to start tagging all of my albums on bandcamp with "neofolk" in hopes divabot will write some crap article about me

you might get a review if you manage not to suck. Literally tens of people could hear about you!

Cobra Commander
Jan 18, 2011


Chelsea Wolfe is definitely hitting a sound I've been looking to hear. I don't care for the occult rock fad with jess and the ancient ones and a whole host of others. Chelsea and Marissa Nadler are really really good.

A LOVELY LAD
Feb 8, 2006

Hey man, wanna hear a secret?

I never really thought of it as folk noir but it is certainly a sad woman singing about dying.

Daughter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63xjiLDRWBI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUWrcFpmI5U

us vs also us
Jul 8, 2007

Hello! I hope you are having a nice day!

https://soundcloud.com/tinygarbage/better-2

is my music folk-noir op

Cymbal Monkey
Apr 16, 2009

Lift Your Little Paws Like Antennas to Heaven!



I don't think so but it's really cool and it's seriously reminding me of something and I can't figure out what and that's killing me, but keep it up.

us vs also us
Jul 8, 2007

Hello! I hope you are having a nice day!

Cymbal Monkey posted:

I don't think so but it's really cool and it's seriously reminding me of something and I can't figure out what and that's killing me, but keep it up.

thank u just wanted to check if my music was folk-noir

soundsection
May 10, 2010


https://annavonhausswolffmusic.band...-me-deliverance

Anna von Hauswolff is also really very good and probably belongs in this thread

Cymbal Monkey
Apr 16, 2009

Lift Your Little Paws Like Antennas to Heaven!


soundsection posted:

https://annavonhausswolffmusic.band...-me-deliverance

Anna von Hauswolff is also really very good and probably belongs in this thread

Anna Von Hausswolff is a musical genius with a voice without equal and Come Wander With Me/Deliverance is probably the apex of human artistic achievement but I don't really get the folksiness? I thought about putting her in the op but I didn't quite feel the fit. But whatever, people need to know.

PS. I've heard some of her new stuff when she opened for Swans and it's loving drone doom and I'm so loving excited for the album.

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015


break out the capri suns




Cymbal Monkey posted:

PS. I've heard some of her new stuff when she opened for Swans and it's loving drone doom and I'm so loving excited for the album.

holy moly

divabot
Jun 17, 2015
DO NOT BELIEVE THIS MAN'S LIE!
Statist shill spreading FUD!

HODL!!


Cymbal Monkey posted:

Anna Von Hausswolff is a musical genius with a voice without equal and Come Wander With Me/Deliverance is probably the apex of human artistic achievement but I don't really get the folksiness? I thought about putting her in the op but I didn't quite feel the fit. But whatever, people need to know.

PS. I've heard some of her new stuff when she opened for Swans and it's loving drone doom and I'm so loving excited for the album.

The organ? harmonium? intro reminds me of seeing Nico in 1986 with the Blue Orchids backing her. (Literally the same Blue Orchids who recorded The Greatest Hit. I didn't know this then.) She was quite definitely the noirest of folk, cutting sick on her harmonium. I recorded it on my Walkman, gently caress knows what happened to the tape. Also, her voice was an octave or so lower.

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Cymbal Monkey
Apr 16, 2009

Lift Your Little Paws Like Antennas to Heaven!


divabot posted:

The organ? harmonium? intro reminds me of seeing Nico in 1986 with the Blue Orchids backing her. (Literally the same Blue Orchids who recorded The Greatest Hit. I didn't know this then.) She was quite definitely the noirest of folk, cutting sick on her harmonium. I recorded it on my Walkman, gently caress knows what happened to the tape. Also, her voice was an octave or so lower.

She's an organist, and that album was recorded on the largest pipe organ in Sweden, apparently.

Cymbal Monkey
Apr 16, 2009

Lift Your Little Paws Like Antennas to Heaven!


Important news for , Emma Ruth Rundle and Darkher are playing The Lexington in London on the 26th of April!

A LOVELY LAD
Feb 8, 2006

Hey man, wanna hear a secret?


I wish I got good bands further north, however King woman, Chelsea Wolfe and True Widow are doing some uk dates together!

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008


I stumbled across Ruby Throat recently. Definitely fits this thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M3oEITick0
Also, an older classic: Cocorosie.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006


If you like Chelsea Wolfe you will probably enjoy Zola Jesus. I see them mentioned in the same breath more often than not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY9WUZZrTpw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah8QWamNXWk

Not sure I'd call her folk, but then again, not sure I'd call Chelsea Wolfe folk either. But they're both definitely noir.


PJ Harvey isn't considered folk either, but her album White Chalk definitely fits the aesthetic of this thread. If I had to describe it in one sentence, I'd go with "A Victorian ghost playing a haunted piano."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPkaTn8lRB8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To_OYNoxdcQ

Cymbal Monkey
Apr 16, 2009

Lift Your Little Paws Like Antennas to Heaven!


Joy Shannon and the Beauty Marks are a "Celtic pagan dark folk band fronted by vocalist and Celtiic harpist and cellist Joy Shannon". I'm listening to Mo Anam Cara right now and it's excellent. Very, very gloomy.

Team_q
Jul 30, 2007



Hey, Older Tasseomancy might fit the bill, anything newer gets a bit more electronic and a bit more dark pop.


Diana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAWA5vtWmfA

(as Ghost Bees) Vampires of the West Coast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtKiUPtuDWQ

Soft Feet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFdxY4Vfwjo


Here they team up with another band you might want to check out, if you don't mind some dude singing

Tasseomancy with Timber Timbre - Darkness of Things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDfAM-WQqSU

Vienna Circlejerk
Jan 28, 2003

The great science sausage party!


I already love so many of these and I'm really excited to listen to the ones I haven't heard yet. Here are a few others I've enjoyed:

Mariee Sioux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnnjhArueNY

Alela Diane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sVDOdayOsc

Some of Jesca Hoop's songs qualify, I think, like this duet with Sam Beam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIxq2-RYAJg

Cymbal Monkey
Apr 16, 2009

Lift Your Little Paws Like Antennas to Heaven!


On the subject of men singing, my friend Tom Morris has a band called Her Name is Calla that totally fit this bill, he's an amazing musician.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrRbClg6bM0

Solo work is good, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMtaJ3aNvgA

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

Only the smallest QB can ascend.


Cool stuff, checkin out the links now

Here's a more traditional folk song but one of my fav's. https://youtu.be/TJCZLKdd8ZI

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precision
May 7, 2006

Double great.


I kinda feel like Black Heart Procession is the first band that did this really well, way back in the 90s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuLB-LOut7w

More recently, I really dig Barn Owl and Esben and the Witch

Papa M (of Slint) also did a great folk-noir album back in the day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe5Cqz1i4Uc

God Of Paradise
Jan 23, 2012



My favorite folk noir artists were men.

This is my personal favorite neo folk album. Nada! by Death in June.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwtE_PJB4rI

Swans, however, were and are the pinnacle of genre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwqqI8gzhoI

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Cymbal Monkey
Apr 16, 2009

Lift Your Little Paws Like Antennas to Heaven!


God Of Paradise posted:

Swans, however, were and are the pinnacle of genre.

Swans are the pinnacle of whatever it is Swans are, but it's not neofolk.

precision
May 7, 2006

Double great.


Cymbal Monkey posted:

Swans are the pinnacle of whatever it is Swans are, but it's not neofolk.

To be fair, some of M. Gira's solo albums fit the bill of neofolk well enough. Particularly How I Loved You.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



precision posted:

To be fair, some of M. Gira's solo albums fit the bill of neofolk well enough. Particularly How I Loved You.

None of his stuff had anything to do with the scene that neofolk came out of though, which is probably the most important thing, because the actual sound of neofolk is really just reverby acoustic guitars with guys talking over them.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003



technically a record can only be considered neofolk if it was literally recorded either within the grounds of Schloss Wewelsburg or in a chamber containing at least 2.35 cubic meters of soil from said grounds

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



Earwicker posted:

technically a record can only be considered neofolk if it was literally recorded either within the grounds of Schloss Wewelsburg or in a chamber containing at least 2.35 cubic meters of soil from said grounds

Thank you

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13Pandora13
Nov 5, 2008


We are legion.

I'm not entirely sure these qualify but I feel like they're kind of-sort of in the same vein.

The Romanovs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0keMZoj2Zak

Vermillion Lies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmPNhNLSJJg

Phildel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CghQKrk0hWM

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