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TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!


There was one that's not there now that was great and it mashed the "I Sit On You" song from Tim & Eric with "I Got My Mind Set On You" by George Harrison and I'm devastated it's gone.

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TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Slumber Party Alien Abduction was one of the best films of that year and the rest of them were lame-o.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Jack Gladney posted:

100% The Fury. It's 11 times better than Scanners, in that it repeats the best part 11 times from different angles.

Carrie is up there despite telekinesis being a much smaller part of the plot than you think. I don't know what it is but De Palma just understands how to tell a story around murdering people with your thoughts.

Scanners is kind of embarrassingly bad, even among the rest of Cronenberg's weak work. If it was his first or second film I could give it a pass but the dude had already made Shivers, The Brood and was on the cusp of doing Videodrome when he shat it out.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

I didn't like Naked Lunch when I first saw it but on a rewatch it's excellent. Scanners is borderline unwatchable save a couple scenes (the head explosion, the final psychic battle) and I've seen it in the theater.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Samuel Clemens posted:

The Fly teaches women that their creepy stalker ex-boyfriend is actually a good guy if you give him a second chance, while the seemingly nice man who treats you with respect will turn out to be a hideous monster. Also, deformed people are not deserving of love and compassion.

Young Jeff Goldblum is dreamy, though. :swoon:

I don't think that's the moral of the movie.

Cronenberg chat has got me rewatching Videodrome and I feel bad that James Woods mind was also warped by televised perversion in real life.

edit: M. Butterfly is way underrated and I actually like it a whole lot more than Dead Ringers.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Samuel Clemens posted:

I thought Woods was always fairly conservative, he just didn't bring it up very often until recently.

Videodrome is actually about the right to bear arms and to store them in our abdomens.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Death to Videodrome. Long live the New Flesh.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

CPL593H posted:

Videodrome is actually about the right to bear arms and to store them in our abdomens chest vaginas.

um, the chest is the top half of the torso protected by the rib cage. the abdomen is the lower part with your stomach and intestines. it's a "belly pussy" get it right, guy.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Dissapointed Owl posted:

Here's some cool effects trickery from the silent film era. I'd never seen this before.

http://imgur.com/a/wUAcl

These rule. I knew about Safety Last and Sherlock Jr and the general trick of matte paintings, but I'd never seen the Modern Times trick before. That's, in the parlance of our times, dope af.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Criminal Minded posted:

Besides the esteemed CineD crew, who are the best film follows on twitter?

Bilge Ebiri
Matt Dessem
Miriam Bale
Matt Zoller Seitz
Marya Gates
Kristen Sales
Jessica Ritchey
William Friedkin
John Carpenter
Keith Calder

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Yo I got a food-for-thought question for y'all. If you could remake one movie which one and why?

And to be clear, this is you remaking it. Not like "I want John Carpenter to do Jurassic Park" or whatnot.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Magic Hate Ball posted:

A Chorus Line, because boy did they ever gently caress that one up.

I asked because my pick is Fiddler on the Roof. I would focus way more on the geopolitical climate crushing down on these people. It's there but it too often feels as absent as the village wishes it was until the end. I want the audience to always be aware that collapse and expulsion is on the horizon.

Also, the songs are great but the camerawork leaves something to be desired. Like why would you ever let extras in the foreground block the dancers?

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Anonymous Robot posted:

Also I'd reshoot Sonatine shot for shot but minus the rape scene.

Why not just do a fan edit?

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Egbert Souse posted:

I briefly considered making a Scorpio Rising-like documentary in college about furries before better judgement took hold.

This would unironically own.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Jack Gladney posted:

Is this like a production that involves time travel, or archival footage of 70s Pam Grier Superman CGI-spliced into a new Batman movie?

She's still alive and working.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Tuxedo Catfish posted:

Someone beat me to "Metropolis but actually socialist" and now I'm kind of spinning my wheels and repeatedly cycling back to stuff I'd like to adapt, which isn't the same as a remake.

I'd probably take some 50's horror movie about science gone too far and the hubris of man and recast the madman as the hero.

As far as adaptations go I really want to make a film version of The Supermale by Alfred Jarry. Very few people have tried to put any of his stuff to film.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

CelticPredator posted:

I hate Armond White. He's an insincere contrarian. Hate that poo poo.

Most of the time I agree, but that Star Wars snipe is straight fire.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Lobok posted:

The whole show started with a huge self-own when the teleprompter wasn't working and he panicked. A man whose career is based on doing live comedy.

And literally any other professional comic would have managed to bounce back from that without a problem. Like you think Chris Rock would have stalled for time by pointing out famous people in the audience?

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

weekly font posted:

Every year and a half or so I get the urge to rewatch Up in the Air and when that urge strikes me, I think to myself, "Why, I remember it being good but not that good." Then I watch it and I'm reminded that, no, it is really that good and I probably don't remember that because it rises to the levels that all of Jason Reitman's other movies vocally aspire to.

This is the first I've heard of anybody talking about this movie since it came out. How's it fair versus Young Adult cause that was his peak for me?

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

I just watched Medium Cool. What are the most powerful political films of the last few years?

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

Assuming we're just talking narrative film and not documentary, using a rough cutoff of 2005-present, here's 15 in no real order:

Syriana
Sicario
Carlos
Munich
Children of Men
Gomorrah
In the Loop
'71
Heli
A Hijacking
Hunger
Lincoln
Breach
Burn After Reading
Che

I'd move it even higher than that. Post-2010. I really want to find where the fringes are at these days, who's loving pissed off. That's a good list of movies though.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Every person from Boston: Patriots Day is exploitative trash taking advantage of our tragedy and just about every one of us was deeply affected by this, not to mention the number of people who survived walking around on prosthetics who can't even go to the movies without seeing that loving trailer with Mr. Hollywood Wahlberg playing last action hero on the single worst day of their lives.

SMG: Well the extended cameo of the MIT robot is thematically linked to the...

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Spatulater bro! posted:

I'm finished with the first disc of Napoleon and so far it's loving incredible.

Abel Gance's Napoleon? My man.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

What are the best pre-election Chapo episodes? I've been listening for a couple months now and tried to go back to the beginning, but listening to them talking about Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton in the present tense kind of got old quickly. I did listen to the Dan O'Sullivan (@Bro_Pair) interview though after the DNC and that episode was excellent. So I know some of them are still worth the listen without being too dated.

edit: Also, does anyone know who people like Virgil Texas or Dan O'Sullivan actually are? They're just twitter handles to me.

TrixRabbi fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Feb 3, 2017

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Snak posted:

This. And also all the people that didn't believe the government was spying on us.

Does this mean there are GPS tracking devices in my dental fillings?

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

The only way Democrats will ever succeed in winning over Republican votes is if they actually focus on and fix economic issues. Hillary ran her entire campaign thinking she would appeal to "moderate Republicans" which worked in as much as she got a few rich people to switch to her. But she failed where it matters -- with the working class. Having a Christian or a Muslim as the DNC chair really isn't that important in the sense of winning voters, but Ellison would be a major statement not just on religion and anti-racism, but also on those economic issues where Dems actually can win back Republican voters.

Trying to steal the dogma of the Right with "well, actually Jesus was a Democrat" will never in a million years win back one single voter.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

X-Ray Pecs posted:

Democrats need to stop trying to appeal to Republicans, because that leads to poo poo like Trump getting elected. Instead, they should mobilize their base by pushing for actual progressive economic policies. Medicare For All is going to grab more voters than picking a Christian over a Muslim, because chances are that anyone who would be horrified by a Muslim running the DNC wouldn't be voting Democrat no matter what.

Exactly this. It's also why we need to find a way to dump the oldhat neolibs like Pelosi.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

FishBulb posted:

The democrats have been moving to the right and appealing to republicans since Reagan. Reagan beat them so bad they decided they couldn't win on even moderately leftist policies and decided to just be republicans but a little less bad. It's how we got a world of deregulation, decreased social services, harsh drug laws and massive incarceration and a corporate hand out healthcare reform despite having 16 years of democratic presidents in there.

Moving to the right and appealing to republicans didn't work it's time to try something else. Trying to be the sane, responsible party that comprises didn't work.

They hosed up a lot of other stuff too, like letting republicans take over state houses because they were focused on national politics.

It's not some simple "Hillary did this one thing and she failed" and we can just fix that and it's all good. They've been making a large number of mistakes for 40 years in a futile attempt to be something different than what their base wanted.

The Dems kept moving to the right thinking there was a center to be won over, but in reality the center right just became more extreme and the wingnuts became full-blown doomsday race-war cultists.

Yeah, McGovern failed, but we're at a point where Neoliberalism has collapsed and the "moderates" have all chosen sides. The only moderates left are the money Democrats like Cory Booker and Diane Feinstein who vote against progressive ideals.

This is why "Bernie Would Have Won" isn't just a meme, it's an important message to get through the skulls of people like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. The left-wing in this country is no longer content to compromise and buy into Wall Street economics. The Republicans obviously made 8 years of petty obstructionism and extremist politics work for them, it's not unreasonable to say "Hey, maybe we should stand our ground and re-adopt that New Deal-style approach to economics."

In short - It's the economy, stupid.

TrixRabbi fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Feb 8, 2017

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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I know we should worry about 2018 and blocking Republicans in the mean time, but I can't help think about who the hell we can run in 2020.

Warren is too divisive, Booker is a sham, Biden and Sanders are not actually going to run.

Kirsten Gillibrand and Kamala Harris have come up as possibilities.

Maybe it will be Zuckerberg. All hail Emperor Zuckerberg, He who sees and knows all we do.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

corn in the bible posted:

Since in the 2020 election only white christian people will be allowed to vote that's who you gotta court

True. Gotta catch those 3-5 million illegal voters, Mike Pence agrees!


X-Ray Pecs posted:

Warren also confirmed Ben loving Carson as Head of Housing and Urban Development, that alone could tank her. Gillibrand only confirmed Haley, who was also confirmed by Sanders, so she could have a chance.

In three years no one is gonna remember who voted for what cabinet positions.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Anonymous Robot posted:

Saw Targets (1968) tonight. An odd picture that alternates between gritty, distressing scenes of muted, horrific violence and light character-based comedy. This vertigo-inducing effect isn't counterproductive, however, and functions as part of the movie's greater conceit.

It's a real gut-punch to see a film begin with a title card listing recent gun massacres and assassinations and asking why, in the year 1968, we still haven't seen meaningful firearm reform legislation. I don't really think that's the core of the issue in this picture, however. Targets presents the quintessentially American character of the mass killer, a young, disaffected white man who seems on the surface like a cipher, massacring without purpose or direction.

I started to wonder why it was that Bob was this corn-fed young Kennedy lookalike, and why he's so coded as being juvenile- still living with his parents, cheeks always bulging with candy bars or PB and J. I realized that it had to do the way in which other characters, from the "other half" of the film, Orlok's half, express that their education and talent has only led them into the service industry. Similarly, Bob asks his wife if she thinks he "can't do anything," a question that appears as a non-sequitur to her but which is actually his attempt to navigate the "strange thoughts" he'd just confessed to having.

Targets attempts to trace the unique epidemic of the spree killer to the root, and centers it on a uniquely American complex wherein people find themselves without any role in society, no avenue for providing for themselves in a meaningful way or producing anything of real value, overskilled and underutilized. In a capitalist society, where one is valued by the profit they generate, this is a crisis of overproduction- a surplus of human beings.

The solution is twofold: the first is industrialized warfare. No movie that examines violence made in 1968 is going to elide the Vietnam War, and Targets is no exception. You'll never see it here, and that's intentional. Note the way in which the characters at the drive-in are completely oblivious to the presence of a sniper killing them off, because they are isolated in their cars and deafened by the sound of the film

The second solution is Bob, the psychopath. Scenes of firearm transactions- in particular, the selling of ammunition on a mass scale- pervade the film, and always on credit or bounced checks, at that. Sustaining non-productive life is highly expensive, but taking it is cheap, and Bob finds himself driven irrepressibly towards making the biggest impact he can in the only way he feels able.

I was also at this screening.

Watched it from the balcony :cool:

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Anonymous Robot posted:

Those end credits are something, huh?

The thing you really get out of the film in a theater on 35mm is that the projectionist at the drive-in gets killed right before the reel change.

I'd seen it before, but I forgot how chilling and ruthless it is. Bogdanovich really nails how senseless and horrible the spree is, but also sells the emptiness of Bobby's life. Look at the set design of his house, it's so vacant and empty. Very little wall decoration, barely any clothes in the closet, outside of the mounted guns and the magazine on the table there are no other markers of personality. It's the idyllic suburban life in little boxes, devoid of anything out of the norm. And Bobby is so cheerful and peppy it seems that the psychosis comes from something more existential, a subconscious disease brewing inside him and telling him this lifestyle is unsustainable and lacks true emotional release. In a society that idolizes guns and violence, that's how the release manifests itself.

And it's paralleled in Byron Orlok. He's also fed up with his life, which has become a stagnant existence of B-grade movies that lack substance. But what sets him apart is his ability to express this discontent. He can take action and retire, he can tell the people in his life something is wrong and he can't keep on living the way he is. Bobby is incapable of this. Why, we're not sure exactly and it's not fully explained. Maybe he truly is a broken mind that will never be content until it can kill, or maybe it's the way society prevents him from ever being able to express himself beyond the white picket fence norms. Maybe it's Vietnam. I don't think we can know this for sure from the film because I think it's an answer Bogdanovich was also looking for. The title card asks this question after all - what caused a young man to shoot people from a bell tower at Texas A&M?

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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married but discreet posted:

NEXT WEEK, on UNIRONIC WOKE ARCHIE

BETTY: Archie, this is ISLAMOPHOBIA. ISLAMOPHOBIA is a form of RACISM targeted against MUSLIMS, the followers of ISLAM.
ARCHIE: Uh huh.
BETTY, talking to the audience: It is BAD.
AUDIENCE: Oh yeah.
GAY FRIEND: Reminder that I'm gay, which is my only character trait.
ARCHIE takes off his shirt

Wait is this the show? I maybe I SHOULD watch it.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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The only bad Final Destination is the fourth one, but the rest are varying degrees of fun to excellent. I have this theory that it's the last true slasher franchise before the genre fell into pure homage and remakes. It's such a constrained subgenre with specific rules and formulas so the killer had to keep getting more and more metaphysical. It went from a madman in Michael Myers, to an unkillable zombie with Jason, to a spirit dream demon with Freddy, eventually at some point you should just cut to the chase. The killer is death itself. So once you have that franchise, where else is there to take the genre?

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Alhazred posted:

Have to say I did not see how the Neon Demon would end:stare:

Between that and The Lobster we had two major art films last year end on puns.

Hey, sorry if this has been brought up before, but does anyone know why the FilmStruck thread got locked?

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Wait, what was the pun at the end of Neon Demon? I just thought that smirk was hilarious.

Hollywood will chew you up and spit you out.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Now's a great time to film a story about a young Mark Wahlberg blinding a Vietnamese man.

The Friends of Tommy Saunders

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Dissapointed Owl posted:

Exciting to see right-wingers excusing molesting kids because Milo Yiannopoulos says it's okay.

Imagine if Dennis Hastert was still around.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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corn in the bible posted:

I don't like the ending -- I think a downer ending would be more appropriate -- but it is very good and I will probably watch it again

If you want a downer ending watch the news. It's fantasy and sometimes fantasy needs to reaffirm because if even our fantasies revel in defeat then what are we fighting for?

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TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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BENGHAZI 2 posted:

The new Sword and Scale is about the dark net hell yes

It's not just the Silk Road story again is it?

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