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When 90% of your post about your Super Bowl winning team is about the negatives of that Super Bowl winning team you are just complaining... ...about a Super Bowl winning team.
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TBeats posted:When 90% of your post about your Super Bowl winning team is about the negatives of that Super Bowl winning team you are just complaining... I'm not complaining!!!! Bringing up and discussing flaws and saying the offense was bad isn't complaining!! The offense WAS bad! Should I say the offense was good just because we won? No!! It wasn't!! That we had such a bad offense is fun to look back on. That's why I do it. If it made me miserable I'd block it out like I do the losses to the Redskins for the most part.
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Jan 6, 2017 04:33
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You sound like a patriots fan.
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Jan 6, 2017 04:34
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"I'm not complaining, I just can't loving understand or shut up about why we didn't go 19-0 and draft every great player always" Meanwhile I'm just ecstatic I got to a championship parade in my lifetime
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Jan 6, 2017 04:43
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Dunno if this is the right thread but Carson Wentz got a hunting blind for his dog. https://twitter.com/cj_wentz/status/817213709164642304
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Jan 6, 2017 04:44
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Chris James 2 posted:"I'm not complaining, I just can't loving understand or shut up about why we didn't go 19-0 and draft every great player always" Well yeah but that's got nothing to do with looking back at the Superbowl team and talking about its strengths and weaknesses. Those are two separate deals. I honestly feel sorry for people who think calling a bad offense bad is "too negative" 
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Jan 6, 2017 04:48
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Chris James 2 posted:"I'm not complaining, I just can't loving understand or shut up about why we didn't go 19-0 and draft every great player always" I'm ecstatic that I live away from Cincinnati now and don't have to deal with anyone telling me to my face that This Is The Year Watch some games, watch AJ Green highlight reels, and thank Christ I don't cheer for the 49ers
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Jan 6, 2017 05:01
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Not sure how many teams' fans would rather cheer for the Bengals even if you don't include regional considerations
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Jan 6, 2017 05:19
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Chris James 2 posted:"I'm not complaining, I just can't loving understand or shut up about why we didn't go 19-0 and draft every great player always" God I'm still pissed about the hawks parade - I would've gone if a coworker covered my shift, but she had seniority and said she wanted to go, but then it was too cold so she stayed home. Lazy gently caress.
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Jan 6, 2017 05:23
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Cavauro posted:Not sure how many teams' fans would rather cheer for the Bengals even if you don't include regional considerations they're all missing out
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Jan 6, 2017 05:33
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got any sevens posted:God I'm still pissed about the hawks parade - I would've gone if a coworker covered my shift, but she had seniority and said she wanted to go, but then it was too cold so she stayed home. Lazy gently caress. It was okay, definitely super cold, it also started late so everyone was just freezing their asses off waiting for the duckboats
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Jan 6, 2017 05:40
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I went to the rally for the Broncos after they won SB XXXIII when I was a freshman in college.  I ended up failing my physics exam the very next night but it was worth it.
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Jan 6, 2017 05:58
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Kawalimus posted:Well yeah but that's got nothing to do with looking back at the Superbowl team and talking about its strengths and weaknesses. Those are two separate deals. Yeah that bad offense really held you guys back that year.
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Jan 6, 2017 12:01
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go go go go ROSCOE! posted:I went to the rally for the Broncos after they won SB XXXIII when I was a freshman in college. I walked out of class and drove to the panthers rally in 2003 and didn't get in trouble because I went to south meck and that place was a war zone.
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Jan 6, 2017 14:05
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TBeats posted:Yeah that bad offense really held you guys back that year. Again that's completely missing the point. The offense was bad. That's the whole point how we were able to win with just strong defense. And for most of the year not even a scoring defense like the Bucs could be in 2002. We just had to stonewall the other team the whole game if we could and get that one or two big offensive play a game and that was what we had. This was before the days of Ed Reed. The offense had two standout games though--one where they won a shootout against the Jaguars in week 2 which was then the biggest win in franchise history. And also at Tennessee in the regular season where Dilfer turned in his best performance of the season against a defense that was about as good as ours. There were some other ok ones but against garbage teams like Cleveland. But those two games were where our offense actually carried us a bit.
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Jan 6, 2017 14:47
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Kawalimus posted:Again that's completely missing the point. The offense was bad. That's the whole point how we were able to win with just strong defense. And for most of the year not even a scoring defense like the Bucs could be in 2002. We just had to stonewall the other team the whole game if we could and get that one or two big offensive play a game and that was what we had. This was before the days of Ed Reed. That sucks man. Wish you guys could have had more success that year.
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Jan 6, 2017 14:54
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Kawalimus posted:Again that's completely missing the point. The offense was bad. That's the whole point how we were able to win with just strong defense. And for most of the year not even a scoring defense like the Bucs could be in 2002. We just had to stonewall the other team the whole game if we could and get that one or two big offensive play a game and that was what we had. This was before the days of Ed Reed. what the gently caress are you talking about? Ed Reed was drafted in 2002 and made the Pro Bowl in 2003 and almost every year after that
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Jan 6, 2017 15:10
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TheChirurgeon posted:what the gently caress are you talking about? Ed Reed was drafted in 2002 and made the Pro Bowl in 2003 and almost every year after that I'm talking about the 2000 season.
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Jan 6, 2017 15:11
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Kawalimus posted:I'm talking about the 2000 season. I understand not being happy with the current team, but why you feel the urge to complain about Dilfer and a team with one of the league's all-time great defenses that embarrassed everyone they played in the playoffs is beyond me
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Jan 6, 2017 15:28
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And if they ever went 19-0, he'd complain about losing preseason games
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Jan 6, 2017 15:34
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There is a difference between complaining and pointing out negative things that you wish had been different. Thje difference is this: *honks your nose, gently* now honk mine
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Jan 6, 2017 15:36
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The Ravens will never win another game again.
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Jan 6, 2017 15:38
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Cavauro posted:There is a difference between complaining and pointing out negative things that you wish had been different. Thje difference is this: *honks your nose, gently* now honk mine When you win a SB and all you talk about is the negative aspects of that team, you're just complaining.
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Jan 6, 2017 15:40
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TBeats posted:When you win a SB and all you talk about is the negative aspects of that team, you're just complaining. Man you're right. and another thing, I actually posted the exact definition of complaining and said it was different. I'm a fucken idiot
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Jan 6, 2017 15:44
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TBeats posted:When you win a SB and all you talk about is the negative aspects of that team, you're just complaining. That's not even what I'm doing. The flawed offense was a huge part of that team, hence the TD-less streak. It was a big deal at the time. Pointing it out isn't complaining but getting a real perspective of the team. To me that's fun. If it were just "yay we won" it would be boring and I wouldn't pay attention. Tony Banks wasn't a good QB and Dilfer was worse. But we had to turn to Dilfer because Banks kept turning the ball over. So at that point we just had to hope he could not screw up, and he managed to do that for the most part. Kawalimus fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Jan 6, 2017 |
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Jan 6, 2017 15:55
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id like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that the 2012 ravens wouldnt have made it to the superbowl if ray rice managed to run for 28 yards instead of 28.5 on 4th and 29. now who would like to feed some waterfowl with me. i have some extra Duck And Goose Blend style corn
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Jan 6, 2017 15:59
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Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:id like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that the 2012 ravens wouldnt have made it to the superbowl if ray rice managed to run for 28 yards instead of 28.5 on 4th and 29. now who would like to feed some waterfowl with me. i have some extra Duck And Goose Blend style corn He actually was short. It was a bad call we just got lucky there.
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Jan 6, 2017 16:00
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Kawalimus posted:He actually was short. It was a bad call we just got lucky there. nah, man. you cheated.
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Jan 6, 2017 16:14
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Kawalimus posted:That's not even what I'm doing. The flawed offense was a huge part of that team, hence the TD-less streak. It was a big deal at the time. Pointing it out isn't complaining but getting a real perspective of the team. To me that's fun. If it were just "yay we won" it would be boring and I wouldn't pay attention. Everyone knows that, though. This is well-established. People readily acknowledge that Dilfer was one of the worst QBs, if not the worst, to ever win a Super Bowl, and he's become an enduring counter-example when talking about how rings define a QB's legacy. Rather than retread old arguments about the 2000 Ravens having a bad offense, or complaining that you didn't draft Gronk, why not direct your attention to present issues? I think you're too hard on Harbaugh, for example, He's proven himself to be a more than capable coach, particularly given the talent around him. The 2012 Ravens' success was unsustainable for a number of reasons, which included Flacco's inconsistency as a Quarterback (and the subsequent contract he was given that ate a huge chunk of cap on a QB who is at best, above-average), the age of key players on the offense and defense (Reed, Lewis, Kemoeatu, Boldin, Birk, Suggs, Williams), and the "Super Bowl Effect" where the cost of retaining the players on the winning team skyrockets, preventing the team from re-signing dependable non-star roleplayers at reasonable prices following the win, and puts more pressure on the depth. So the more interesting question is: Did they win right as the window closed, or was there something the team could have done to extend it? (I'd argue the former more than the latter) Part of the issue is that I feel like the Ravens, known for having an amazing front office, actually haven't done a great job evaluating and acquiring talent over the last 4 years. They've drafted just three pro bowlers since the 2010 draft, and one of those was Tyrod Taylor (the other two were Juszczyk and Mosley). Comparatively, Elam has been an injury-prone disappointment, Upshaw was incredibly underwhelming as a pass rusher, Perriman sat for a year with injury and hasn't been great this year, and the defense collapsed down the stretch this year. The Ravens have gotten a pass because of their team brand, but they need to start doing a better job of finding good talent or their whiffs are going to catch up with them.
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TBeats posted:When you win a SB and all you talk about is the negative aspects of that team, you're just complaining.
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Jan 6, 2017 17:00
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go go go go ROSCOE! posted:That's exactly what Cavauro was saying Then it would seem I agree
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Jan 6, 2017 17:01
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What the gently caress is wrong with the Bills (besides “everything”)? https://twitter.com/mikerodak/status/817404620871991296
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Jan 6, 2017 17:24
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TheChirurgeon posted:Everyone knows that, though. This is well-established. People readily acknowledge that Dilfer was one of the worst QBs, if not the worst, to ever win a Super Bowl, and he's become an enduring counter-example when talking about how rings define a QB's legacy. Rather than retread old arguments about the 2000 Ravens having a bad offense, or complaining that you didn't draft Gronk, why not direct your attention to present issues? The second part of your post I'll get to later, but I'd like to address this. I just like to reminisce and build my perspective on those teams. I just enjoy doing it. Whether it's this year's team or a team from like 20 years ago I just enjoy doing it. It's fun. It's not like talking about this team is going to fix things. Like the Ravens aren't going to read here and be like "Hmm this Kawalimus guy has a good grasp of the current team. I say we fire the coordinators every year and hire Shannon Sharpe as head coach for life and go back in time and not draft Matt Elam(seriously what were you idiots thinking?!)". The 2000 team was memorable for me for obvious reasons and they were also the first year I really got into football so that was a real special year for me. That 2000-2003 era was when I most closely followed football all around, so that is what had the biggest impression on me. I still follow it of course but don't pay as much attention to the rest of the league. So that's why I talk about those past teams. It's really not to complain or anything it's because that was a real fun time for me as a fan. I remember right after we won it in my dad's car taking me to school and hearing something on sports talk radio(which I usually abhor) that stuck with me. One of the hosts said something along the lines of "This Superbowl run was great and we're all spoiled now from it so quick especially younger people. But cherish this time because these don't come often" so I've tried to do that and it's true. While we've won the Superbowl twice you can see other teams have never won it or not won in a long time. So I don't just forget about those teams and "focus on the present". I remember them because despite the struggles we had those ended up being great years since we won. So that's why I still talk about them today. And I never bash other fans for doing the same for their teams not even the Redskins fans. Kawalimus fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Jan 6, 2017 |
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Jan 6, 2017 17:29
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Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:id like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that the 2012 ravens wouldnt have made it to the superbowl if ray rice managed to run for 28 yards instead of 28.5 on 4th and 29. now who would like to feed some waterfowl with me. i have some extra Duck And Goose Blend style corn STOP. I AM TRIGGERED
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Jan 6, 2017 18:40
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a neat cape posted:STOP. That play is one of the few things that I could maybe be convinced was some kind of conspiracy. But I mean still probably not. It was so clearly short! I don't get why it wasn't overturned.
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Jan 6, 2017 18:45
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Because John Pagano deserved it for coaching such horseshit tackling.
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Jan 6, 2017 19:27
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a neat cape posted:STOP. i don't get it what's wrong with feeding ducks
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Jan 6, 2017 19:33
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Hiring Rob Ryan… a bad idea?? https://twitter.com/TyDunne/status/817469637663268866
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fsif posted:Hiring Rob Ryan… a bad idea?? As a Saints fan, that checks out. Surprised you didn't get the usual year one Rob pop though.
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Stop talking to Kawalimus he clearly has a mental disorder Like a bad one
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