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Kashuno posted:I think a miller is as good a place as any to start d1 so And this is an extremely quick backoff. I know this is kinda Kashuno 101 but maybe scum kashuno 101? Also distracting from Atomic Soda pretty hard?
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Kashuno posted:the votes are on me are garbage with no logical backing remember that d2 thanks. Ehhhh this is really looking like scum kashuno posturing, especially with the giant "I HAVE A NK GUYS" claim. Like why roll in with "we need to verify miller claims sooner rather than later because we don't know if they're genuine" and then claim a NK, a roleclaim which also needs to be verified sooner rather than later?? seems like an odd tact to take if you actually know your role initially.
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Jan 6, 2017 23:13
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Mr. F! posted:I see cheap tricks vote on kash as a low hanging fruit vote, honestly. That being said I don't really like this Mr. F post after his previous post which basically called Kashuno out? Weird turn and a weird way to justify voting cheap tricks.
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Jan 6, 2017 23:15
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Somberbrero posted:So your justification is now then that you were just trying to engage Kash through further dialogue? That seems tonally distant from your original defense. Somber coming in with a game theory argument to derail anything also gives me bad vibes, this looks like his SK play from whatever game we played in last. Hurming all over the place!!
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Note Atomic Soda has completely vanished. At least one of the things I have called out is guaranteed to be scum creating a distraction for (her?).
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Quidthulhu posted:This post setting off alarm bells, another one that is soft moving poo poo away from actual scum analysis to jumping on easy targets, all the while offering no opinion. the opinion was that your vote was opportunistic and bad, I think that's clear, and some of your further justification now is that people are talking about other posts beyond AS, which is not a great argument
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Jan 6, 2017 23:42
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Quidthulhu posted:Note Atomic Soda has completely vanished. At least one of the things I have called out is guaranteed to be scum creating a distraction for (her?). This is terrible "At least one of the people participating in this thread after the AS discussion is scum" bad, bad, bad ##vote quid
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Jan 6, 2017 23:42
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Quidthulhu posted:Somber coming in with a game theory argument to derail anything also gives me bad vibes, this looks like his SK play from whatever game we played in last. how the gently caress is that a game theory argument
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Jan 6, 2017 23:45
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maybe if you read one sentence in the middle of the post
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Let's all just vote Quid and get back to talking about how great purple is ##vote Quid
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Jan 7, 2017 01:37
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Still don't like Kashuno this game he is being ~too hasty~ for me
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Quidthulhu posted:Note Atomic Soda has completely vanished. At least one of the things I have called out is guaranteed to be scum creating a distraction for (her?). yo i having coffee with my partner and skimming this thread. I will post within the hour but he gets annoyed when i don't pay attention to him when we out for some reason. 
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i am the bird posted:I don't know what to make of the miller claim. Flavorchat reads to me as wrong at the moment. I don't know how we would eliminate a miller claim based solely on flavor. That said, it's a needlessly vulnerable play for Keane to make. AS's follow-up vote is odd as well, but again, at least appears as an honest consideration, for whatever that's worth what followup vote? i've only made joke votes so far, also ##unvote quid have you answered this question? i'm interested, given you thought my behaviour was bad enough to vote on. Atomic Soda posted:re: buddying and mafia dadding, i'm acknowledging a point from another player i hadn't really considered and following it up. how do you suggest i do this without 'buddying'? still reading
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Jan 7, 2017 03:41
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asiinas miller flavour jives re: the kash and grandi argument. while there is merit in pursuing and questioning asiinas claim to see if she is a scum in the grass, lynching millers because they are millers is dumb. i don't like policy lynches, and i agree that this sounds like a policy lynch. i would only consider it if there were literally no other reasonable options for a day 1 lynch. Grandicap posted:This is dumb. You are dumb. bird and kash, why did you think grandi was saying there is no cop? cause it doesn't read that way to me at all. fake edit: i see that others are saying it hasn't been policy to lynch millers day 1? this confuses me - kash has played for a while, why would he try this on if he didn't personally think it to be true? to be continued
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Jan 7, 2017 03:51
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my favourite colour is green don't agree with lynching kash today at this stage where is lil dawney still reading
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Jan 7, 2017 03:55
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CCKeane posted:Can everybody who is scientist aligned please raise their hands? :strokes beard: cheap tricks is pinging me. Cheap Trick souvenirs posted:When you find scum, how do you do it? I have found that actively questioning people and their motivations to be a very strong tool in sniffing out the scum. Passive observation has its merits as well but it can also allow for lurkers or reserved scum to get by unnoticed. The more you get someone to talk and, even better, talk under pressure, the more likely you are to get a feel for their alignment. There are any number of reasons; now I know his and we have something to compare against as he continues to play. Why am I even explaining this to you, buddy? i agree with everything you've said here but your post voting for kash did not ask active questions. why was that? Cheap Trick souvenirs posted:Let's lynch Kashuno, it seems like a good idea. fyi asking questions, even obvious ones isn't scummy - for idiot new players like me it helps. i also think that the response it provides from the player being questioned can be enlightening, and sometimes through up previous inconsistencies. i don't think cheap tricks did this on his initial kash vote, but is using it as a defense for his vote late. this is what is suss to me.
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perhaps i should have just said i agree with somberSomberbrero posted:So your justification is now then that you were just trying to engage Kash through further dialogue? That seems tonally distant from your original defense. i assume everyone else is in bed, drat my australian deficiencies. also edit to my last post - 'through' = 'throw'
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Kashuno posted:tbh CTS looks better than somber in this exchange nah. i can see why cheap tricks is pinging people. cheap tricks didn't ask questions when he voted you, but now he's saying this was what he always intended to do? Quidthulhu posted:And this is an extremely quick backoff. I know this is kinda Kashuno 101 but maybe scum kashuno 101? why is kash distracting from me, but not somber or mr. f? Quidthulhu posted:Ehhhh this is really looking like scum kashuno posturing, especially with the giant "I HAVE A NK GUYS" claim. this is a good point actually - kash why didn't you just sit on it and nk asiina anyways? not mafia dadding you quid, ew. Quidthulhu posted:That being said I don't really like this Mr. F post after his previous post which basically called Kashuno out? Weird turn and a weird way to justify voting cheap tricks. perhaps there is something he is not telling us quid? personally i have good feels about mr f. Quidthulhu posted:Note Atomic Soda has completely vanished. At least one of the things I have called out is guaranteed to be scum creating a distraction for (her?). i'm australian, and can't always post when everyone else is. i'm guessing everyone is in bed! sorry for all the posts in a row, i will check back in a few hours to see if anyone around. i hope lil d posts soon also : )
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Hey soda, have you ever considered voting for someone for reactions? It can sometimes be good.
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Jan 7, 2017 04:34
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Yo I am awake here in God's timezone
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I am awake, but will not be shortly.
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quid's drive by style posting pings me, about to head to bed though.
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it seems like we're all over the place. can we get some top 3 scum picks? 1. cts 2. bird 3. quid
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Somberbrero posted:it seems like we're all over the place. can we get some top 3 scum picks? 1. quid 2. kash 3. Keane maybe?
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keane is an interesting pick, his play has been a little different and more serious, but i didn't see it as very scummy. any reason why?
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Somberbrero posted:keane is an interesting pick, his play has been a little different and more serious, but i didn't see it as very scummy. any reason why? I just have felt his posts are a bit off. Maybe it's that he's more serious as you say, but out of the posters that are active enough for me to have reads on he pinged more than the others. Outside of Kash and quid of course, I feel stronger about those two than Keane for sure.
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Cheap Trick souvenirs posted:Hey soda, have you ever considered voting for someone for reactions? It can sometimes be good. i often worry about casting a serious vote on day 1 ##vote cheap tricks Somberbrero posted:it seems like we're all over the place. can we get some top 3 scum picks? cheap tricks atm keane is also pinging me, as is bird a little. not sure about quid haven't played with him before
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I'm sorry people, between work and my allergies(which I'm not entirely sure isn't a cold) I haven't really had any motivation. However, I'm off today and determined to redeem myself and I'm reading through the thread right now.
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After careful review and note taking I am going to ##vote Hal . While I was absent, Hal made a point to seem active and post every so often but without really adding much. I mean, the most commen thread through all his posts was what color he enjoyed. He threw out one vote, Quid, with no reasoning and hasn't really added anything of substance at all. Speaking of Quid, hello friend. I hope you've gotten some good use from the decanter. However, I feel like yu're beeing a little too spread out for the Quid I remember. You used to be the day one tunnel king, and either your game play has changed drastically, or you're scum...I'm not entirely sure yet. I believe Asiina's miller claim because the flavor behind it is either a really well done fake claim or real. I dodn't agree that we should auto-kill all claimed millers, but I also don't think that wanting that makes Kash scum. It's a valid way, and pretty much the only way other than role cop, to test a miller. I just think it's a waste sometimes, and this is one of those times. Maybe it's because I believe her. My favorite color is either dusty rose or sage green, depending on my mood, and I am scientist aligned so here is my hand raise o/.
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Li Dawny posted:After careful review and note taking I am going to ##vote Hal . While I was absent, Hal made a point to seem active and post every so often but without really adding much. I mean, the most commen thread through all his posts was what color he enjoyed. He threw out one vote, Quid, with no reasoning and hasn't really added anything of substance at all. What do you think of Cheap Trick Souvenirs?
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re-reading the CTS/Kash exchange, I find CTS's original line of questioning lame and it doesn't jive at all with his later justification of why he was asking role type questions. Kash's responses are dodgy at best but having played 4-5 games straight with Kash, I've never not seen him like thisAtomic Soda posted:bird and kash, why did you think grandi was saying there is no cop? cause it doesn't read that way to me at all. I didn't understand the hypothetical because it's a total waste of words to say that miller roles don't mean much without cops. Why bother pointing that out? It was confusing, not scummy to me, which is why I didn't vote
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Mr. F! posted:What do you think of Cheap Trick Souvenirs? I'm not a big fan at the moment. It seemed like he voted Kash as a joke and decided to start coming up with reasons after he was pressured over it. Something about it feels manufactured, but I'm not quite sure how to explain it.
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Because I'm the best player in the thread?
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I was asking him
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Cheap Trick souvenirs posted:Because I'm the best player in the thread?
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