which 90's era failed OS is the least POS

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Progressive JPEG: Feb 19, 2003

eschaton posted:

I prefer this one

you can tell Rollins totally wants to be there

e: we had various of these framed on the wall in the hallways when I was in the PowerBook group at Apple in the 90s, that's where I first saw this one

whats wrong w/ his leg

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Silver Alicorn: Mar 30, 2008; 𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

have u never seen a tattoo before

# ? Jan 15, 2017 04:43

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud: Apr 7, 2003

The_Franz posted:

that ad is from 1994. "the baggy 90s" was the decade of wearing sack-like clothes several sizes too big

clothes which are now snug because the 90s is also the decade when everyone started becoming fat

There was plenty of bad late eighties stuff left over in 1994.

# ? Jan 15, 2017 04:56

skimothy milkerson: Nov 19, 2006

Progressive JPEG posted:

i googled it

it was tattoos

# ? Jan 15, 2017 08:10

axolotl farmer: May 17, 2007; Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

mid 90s is at fashion nadir right now.

just wait a few years and all the hipsters will be looking like the cast of Friends

# ? Jan 15, 2017 08:49

Wild EEPROM: Jul 29, 2011; oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.

eagerly awaiting the return of jncos and flame shirts

# ? Jan 15, 2017 08:51

Progressive JPEG: Feb 19, 2003

Wild EEPROM posted:

eagerly awaiting the return of jncos and flame shirts

same except dressing like rocko from rocko's modern life

triangle shirt

no pants

# ? Jan 15, 2017 09:19

Chris Knight: Jun 5, 2002; me @ ur posts; Fun Shoe

Progressive JPEG posted:

same except dressing like rocko from rocko's modern life

triangle shirt

no pants

sounds good

# ? Jan 15, 2017 17:17

3D Megadoodoo: Nov 25, 2010

NeoHentaiMaster posted:

This is a huge long shot, but I remember a segment in one of those 90s era tech shows, possibly it was Beyond 2000, where some neck beard guy was going on about how he had created the worlds best OS for managing documents. What stuck out was that he was very critical of contemporary file managers and very arrogant about how his was obviously way better, but from what they showed of his it was just like a digital flip book of things sorted by date. I always wondered what happened to that guy, anyone else have any idea what I'm talking about ? I'm just curious if it turned out he was on the TempleOS scale of bad things by delusional people.

Oh god I hope it was Spectateswamp and his Something Something Desktop Search.

e: Oh it was called Spectate Swamp Desktop Search. :doh:

# ? Jan 15, 2017 22:38

maniacdevnull: Apr 18, 2007; FOUR CUBIC FRAMES
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Progressive JPEG posted:

same except dressing like rocko from rocko's modern life

triangle shirt

no pants

F yeah

# ? Jan 15, 2017 23:04

BobHoward: Feb 13, 2012; The only thing white people deserve is a bullet to their empty skull

not going to pretend this wasnt a pos but i'll always have a soft spot for it

i'm astonished to learn that it has somehow survived as an incredibly niche open source project, apparently with activity as recent as 2016

# ? Jan 16, 2017 11:27

Cybernetic Vermin: Apr 18, 2005

hard to pin down whether GEM failed or not since it was never that successful, and also stayed just being sort-of kind-of successful for a long time. atari home computers failing was sort of the failure of truly common GEM use i guess, but it is not like TOS and GEM were compatible etc.

# ? Jan 16, 2017 11:48

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

BobHoward posted:

not going to pretend this wasnt a pos but i'll always have a soft spot for it

i'm astonished to learn that it has somehow survived as an incredibly niche open source project, apparently with activity as recent as 2016

what's the open source project? I thought it was still commercial or something

# ? Jan 16, 2017 20:41

BobHoward: Feb 13, 2012; The only thing white people deserve is a bullet to their empty skull

eschaton posted:

what's the open source project? I thought it was still commercial or something

the screenshot i posted is of atari's last ditch attempt at making TOS relevant, MultiTOS, aka TOS with preemptive multitasking

it was actually built on top of eric smith's MiNT (=MiNT is Not TOS, or, after he got hired by atari, MiNT is Now TOS). this was an open source multitasking kernel that replaced the chunk of TOS roughly equivalent to MS-DOS with something a little nicer and more unix-y. according to this eric smith interview on the history of MiNT, the main reason he wrote MiNT was to make it easier to port programs from unix to atari, but it ended up becoming his job

when atari finally conceded to reality and canceled their personal computer produts, smith convinced management to open source the work he'd done on MiNT as an atari employee. that's what is still alive today, as FreeMiNT. on top of that base they've written XaAES, an open source replacement for AES, the GUI layer of TOS which atari never open sourced (because that was code licensed from DRI). (XaAES ain't AES)

so as far as i can tell from non-effortpost levels of searching, the atari community now has a fully open sourced TOS replacement stack and there are still people hacking on it

there were other (mostly european i think?) closed source partial or full clones. cloning TOS was/is relatively easy, tbh: the original AES/GEM API was pretty spartan, and the atari version of everything involved was a lot cleaner and easier to hack on than the ms-dos original (because 68K, flat address space, less legacy, less hardware to support, etc)

# ? Jan 16, 2017 22:32

hackbunny: Jul 22, 2007; I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av

reactos is somehow still a thing

# ? Jan 16, 2017 23:09

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

hackbunny posted:

reactos is somehow still a thing

this is like discovering those eastern european computer communities that still use heavily skinned/modded win 3.11

# ? Jan 16, 2017 23:44

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Citizen Tayne posted:

Apollo/DomainOS was 80s, like 3/4ths of the poo poo people are talking about here.

turns out that the final release of Apollo Domain/OS 10.4 was in 1992, so it�s 90s after all

I also just installed it in MAME 1.8.1, it�s an �interesting� system

# ? Jan 17, 2017 01:20

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

eschaton posted:

turns out that the final release of Apollo Domain/OS 10.4 was in 1992, so it�s 90s after all

the hp copyright dated 1992 didn't give that away?

# ? Jan 17, 2017 01:22

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

eschaton posted:

turns out that the final release of Apollo Domain/OS 10.4 was in 1992, so it�s 90s after all

I also just installed it in MAME 1.8.1, it�s an �interesting� system

oh wow that's cool

pls post more about this

# ? Jan 17, 2017 01:26

BobHoward: Feb 13, 2012; The only thing white people deserve is a bullet to their empty skull

yeah i wanna know why mame of all things emulates apollo workstation hardware

# ? Jan 17, 2017 01:48

in a well actually: Jan 26, 2011; dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

BobHoward posted:

yeah i wanna know why mame of all things emulates apollo workstation hardware

similar hw for obsessive arcade-accurate emu devs. Was a separate project (MESS) for a while.

there's a retro computing thread in SHSC somewhere; mostly focused on Real Hardware.

FPGAs for ur amiga

# ? Jan 17, 2017 01:54

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

not 90s, but how's that xerox alto restoration project coming along?

# ? Jan 17, 2017 02:08

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

BobHoward posted:

yeah i wanna know why mame of all things emulates apollo workstation hardware

MESS was folded into MAME

the Apollo hardware and OS had a dedicated following, there was a partial emulator that was used to build the one in MESS/MAME since it had support for support chips etc. the partial one lacked

you can emulate other interesting stuff with MAME as well these days like a Sun 2 or 3 or even 1

# ? Jan 17, 2017 07:23

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud: Apr 7, 2003

eschaton posted:

turns out that the final release of Apollo Domain/OS 10.4 was in 1992, so it�s 90s after all

Nope. Primary development was done in the eighties. It's an 80s OS.

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yellow borders: Jan 7, 2010

infernal machines posted:

not 90s, but how's that xerox alto restoration project coming along?

the one at lcm in seattle is working and on display

# ? Jan 17, 2017 21:23

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

eschaton posted:

MESS was folded into MAME

the Apollo hardware and OS had a dedicated following, there was a partial emulator that was used to build the one in MESS/MAME since it had support for support chips etc. the partial one lacked

you can emulate other interesting stuff with MAME as well these days like a Sun 2 or 3 or even 1

tme has you covered for all your sun2/sun3 emulation needs

it does a passable sun2 and sun3 emu that will definitely run sunos. (i'm not sure whether suntools or Xsun work though, never tried it)

# ? Jan 18, 2017 01:49

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

BobHoward posted:

not going to pretend this wasnt a pos but i'll always have a soft spot for it

i'm astonished to learn that it has somehow survived as an incredibly niche open source project, apparently with activity as recent as 2016

MINT is an OG open source project

someone decided to hack a posix layer onto TOS in ye olden days (1989) for compatibility with Unix software and released it for the ST and TT

Atari hired him on in 1990 and released it along with a multitasking TOS bolted on as MultiTOS

when Atari stopped making computers (1993) the guy was able to release as open source and it's collected modules (it uses RPM and people have been porting Debian packages) over the years, with active development to this day

e:FB

# ? Jan 18, 2017 04:32

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

eschaton posted:

MESS was folded into MAME

the Apollo hardware and OS had a dedicated following, there was a partial emulator that was used to build the one in MESS/MAME since it had support for support chips etc. the partial one lacked

you can emulate other interesting stuff with MAME as well these days like a Sun 2 or 3 or even 1

does that work yet? I haven't upgraded my mame in a while but the Sun emulation didn't work last I checked

BobHoward posted:

so as far as i can tell from non-effortpost levels of searching, the atari community now has a fully open sourced TOS replacement stack and there are still people hacking on it

there were other (mostly european i think?) closed source partial or full clones. cloning TOS was/is relatively easy, tbh: the original AES/GEM API was pretty spartan, and the atari version of everything involved was a lot cleaner and easier to hack on than the ms-dos original (because 68K, flat address space, less legacy, less hardware to support, etc)

I don't know if MINT runs on EmuTOS but yeah everything above the ROM is open sores these days.

GEM started life at DRI as a 68K port of CP/M until Atari was like "hey we kinda have a computer and no OS for it"

# ? Jan 18, 2017 04:39

atomicthumbs: Dec 26, 2010; We're in the business of extending man's senses.

how about AMOS

# ? Jan 18, 2017 10:54

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

tme has you covered for all your sun2/sun3 emulation needs

it does a passable sun2 and sun3 emu that will definitely run sunos. (i'm not sure whether suntools or Xsun work though, never tried it)

they do on both tme and MAME these days

# ? Jan 18, 2017 11:17

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

a real 80's pos is OASIS. it's such a pos that i can't even find pictures of it on the internet. it was for the Z80, so perhaps that has something to do with it.

# ? Jan 18, 2017 11:18

Optimus_Rhyme: Apr 15, 2007; are you that mainframe hacker guy?

# ? Jan 18, 2017 11:32

Chris Knight: Jun 5, 2002; me @ ur posts; Fun Shoe

atomicthumbs posted:

how about AMOS

I prefer ANDY

# ? Jan 18, 2017 13:41

trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

There's no way to do Irix in any sort of virtual environment, right? Would be fun to play around with it some.

# ? Jan 18, 2017 20:02

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

trilljester posted:

There's no way to do Irix in any sort of virtual environment, right? Would be fun to play around with it some.

mame has non-working drivers for various SGI systems

there's some older MIPS emulators that are capable of booting Irix (I'm talking like 1999) but who knows how any of them work

# ? Jan 18, 2017 20:11

trilljester: Dec 7, 2004; The People's Tight End.

Luigi Thirty posted:

mame has non-working drivers for various SGI systems

there's some older MIPS emulators that are capable of booting Irix (I'm talking like 1999) but who knows how any of them work

I'm thinking it's easier to track down an old SGI system and buy it off eBay or something.

# ? Jan 18, 2017 20:12

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Luigi Thirty posted:

does that work yet? I haven't upgraded my mame in a while but the Sun emulation didn't work last I checked

use tme, i posted a link to it earlier

it is written by a netbsd developer who really, really wanted to port netbsd to his sun 2/120. it will run netbsd or sunos

# ? Jan 18, 2017 21:19

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Luigi Thirty posted:

mame has non-working drivers for various SGI systems

there's some older MIPS emulators that are capable of booting Irix (I'm talking like 1999) but who knows how any of them work

simos existed and would run irix, but you needed a patched irix kernel to make it work

trilljester posted:

I'm thinking it's easier to track down an old SGI system and buy it off eBay or something.

you would have better luck with a newer system. (newer is still pretty drat old, since they stopped selling them 10+ years ago)

it can be very difficult to track down install media for pre-6.5 irix

# ? Jan 18, 2017 21:21

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

trilljester posted:

I'm thinking it's easier to track down an old SGI system and buy it off eBay or something.

not any more, since some of the SGI systems from Akklaim were obtained and are now going up for auction as "might have cool stuff on them!!!"

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