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Black Baby Goku
Apr 2, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Contra [NES] 1/12/2017

Run Saber [SNES] 1/15 /2017




http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3690883 2015 Thread
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Black Baby Goku fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Jan 15, 2017

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In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Reserved.

Wormskull
Aug 23, 2009

Reserved.

Bill Barber
Aug 26, 2015

Hot Rope Guy
Reserved.

elf help book
Aug 5, 2004

Though the battle might be endless, I will never give up
Pony Island (1/1) 100% Achievements
Day of the Tentacle Remastered (1/5) Platinum Trophy
Grim Fandango Remastered (1/9) Platinum Trophy
Picross 3D: Round 2 (1/20)
DROD: King Dugan's Dungeon 2.0 (1/29) All challenges completed
The Witness (2/20)
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD (3/21) 100%
Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance (3/27)
Nier (4/3) All Endings
Shovel Knight: Specter of Torment (4/15) 100%
Persona 5 (5/1)
Nier: Automata (5/16) Platinum Trophy
Final Fantasy XV (6/14) Platinum Trophy
ICO (6/28)
The End is Nigh (7/23) 100%
Freedom Planet (8/15)
Sonic Mania (8/20)
Shantae: Half-Genie Hero: Pirate Queen's Quest (8/27) 100%
Mighty Switch Force 2 (9/11)
Wario Land 2 (9/15)
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages (10/1)
Blaster Master Zero (10/3) 100%
Zero Escape: Zero Time Dilemma (10/15) Platinum Trophy
Super Mario Odyssey (10/31) All Moons
Super Mario Run (11/1) All Pink Coins
Kamiko (11/1)
Cat Girl Without Salad: Amuse~Bouche (11/1)
Spark the Electric Jester (11/6)
Sonic Forces (11/13)
Final Fantasy XV: Episode Prompto (11/14)
HITMAN Season One (11/26) All Achievements
LEGO Dimensions (11/26) Platinum Trophy
Final Fantasy XV: Episode Gladiolus (11/30)
Gravity Rush 2 (12/9)
Rez Infinite (12/11)
Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap (12/11) 100%
Mighty Gunvolt Burst (12/22)
Doki Doki Literature Club (12/31)

elf help book fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Dec 31, 2017

Fungah!
Apr 30, 2011

1. pony island (100%)
2. legend of zelda, 1st quest
3. mega man 3
4. brigador campaign mode
5. SOMA
6. shovel knight: specter of torment
7: the legend of zelda: breath of the wild (27.12%)
8. kamiko (red and green maiden)
9. metal slug 3 (co-op)
10. fantasy life and origin island
11. squarecells
12. boxboxboy
13. persona 5 (105 hours, 14 confidants)
14. hollow knight
15. star fox 2 (normal, C rank)
16. super metroid (2:32, 66% completion, no ice/grapple)
17. super hot
18. super mario odyssey (250 moons)
19. mega man x
20. planescape torment
21. final fantasy 6
22. nier: automata (a-e)

Fungah! fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Dec 23, 2017

frank.club
Jan 15, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Wb bbg

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




2017 list. Favs in bold.

1. Sniper Elite V2 (1/1)
2. Oxenfree (1/2)
3. The Last Guardian (1/6)
4. Abzu (1/7)
5. Infamous second son (1/14)
6. Blazblue: Central Fiction (1/14)
7. Sonic generations (1/15)
8. Steamworld Heist (1/22)
9. Shin Megami Tensei IV (2/1)
10. Gravity Rush 2 (2/9)
11. Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's edge (2/12)
12. Yakuza 0 (2/18)
13. Halo Reach (2/23)
14. Nioh (3/17)
15. Horizon Zero Dawn (3/25)
16. The Legend of Zelda: BotW (3/27)
17. Nier Automata (4/5)
18. Binary Domain (4/14)
19. Severed (4/20)
20. Dragon Quest 8 (4/30)
21. Persona 5 (5/8)
22. Mariokart 8 (5/12)
23. Resident Evil 7 (6/2)
24. Tekken 7 (6/3)
25. ARMS (6/16)
26. Final Fantasy XV (6/19)
27. Rez infinite (6/20)
28. Nex Machina (6/22)
29. Prey (7/3)
30. Shovel Knight: plague of shadows (7/6)
31. Enslaved: journey to the west (7/10)
32. Shovel Knight: specter of torment (7/11)
33. Guilty gear xrd rev2 (7/19)
34. Ultra street fighter 2 (7/22)
35. Asuras wrath (7/23)
36. Splatoon 2 (8/8)
37. Ultra street fighter 4 (8/9)
38. Chaos code (8/9)
39. Skullgirls (8/9)
40. Nitroplus Blasterz (8/9)
41. xenoblade chronicles 3d (8/10)
42. Matterfall (8/16)
43. Sonic mania (8/17)
44. Phoenix wright: ace attorney (8/19)
45. Uncharted: lost legacy (8/23)
46. Darius burst (8/26)
47. Jak and Daxter precursor legacy (8/28)
48. Windjammers (8/30)
49. Yakuza kiwami (9/1)
50. Dragon quest heroes 2 (9/3)
51. Ys origin (9/12)
52. Hatoful boyfriend (9/13)
53. Marvel vs Capcom infinite (9/23)
54. Metroid: samus returns (10/12)
55. Super mario odyssey (10/29)
56. Horizon zero dawn frozen wilds (11/10)
57. Bound (11/11)
58. Dragons dogma (11/22)
59. Wolfenstein 2 (11/28)
60. Dishonored death of the outsider (12/3)
61. Momodora reverie under the moonlight (12/15)
62. Xenoblade chronicles 2 (12/22)
63. Hidden agenda (12/23)
64. Steamworld dig 2 (12/27)

Real hurthling! fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Dec 28, 2017

Aston
Nov 19, 2007

Okay
Okay
Okay
Okay
Okay

1. Dishonored (Low Chaos)
2. Chrono Trigger
3. Shovel Knight: Plague of Shadows
4. Link's Awakening
5. The Witness
6. Zelda 1
7. Guacamelee
8. Breath of the Wild
9. The Sexy Brutale
10. Yooka-Laylee
11. Nuclear Throne
12. Batman Arkham Asylum
13. Batman Arkham City
14. Hollow Knight
15. Bayonetta 2
16. Zelda Oracle of Seasons
17. Xcom 2
18. Half-Life
19. Half-Life 2
20. Bioshock Infinite
21. Event[0]
22. Pikmin 2
23. Nier: Automata (Endings A, G)

what did you think of Oxenfree? I was a fan.

Aston fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Dec 7, 2017

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

1. Dragon Age: Origins

Plebian Parasite
Oct 12, 2012

Reserved

trying to jack off
Dec 31, 2007

reserved

codenameFANGIO
May 4, 2012

What are you even booing here?

WATCH THIS SPACE

codenameFANGIO
May 4, 2012

What are you even booing here?

j/k I will probably never update that post

Cubivore_
Nov 6, 2013

January
1. Fragile Dreams - time: 16:41

February

March
2. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - time: "more than 80 hours "

April
3. Nier Automata - Time: 62:34
4. Parasite Eve - Time: 10:39
5. Hyper Light Drifter - Time: 11:01
6. Bayonetta (Wii U) - Time: 10:49
7. Bayonetta 2 - Time: 11:23
8. Yomawari: Night Alone
9. Nier Automata DLC - Time: about 2:45

May

June
10. Tekken 7 story mode and all character chapters
11. The Silver Case
12. Abzu
13. My Nintendo Picross: The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - time: 7:06

July
14. Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean - time: 70:54
15. Yakuza 0 - time: 52:45
16. Until Dawn

August
17. Siren: New Translation - time: 13:22
18. Illusion of Gaia
19. Soul Blazer
20. Bloodborne + DLC + chalice dungeons. platinum trophy

September
21. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
22. Yakuza Kiwami - time: 27:17
23. Magic Knight Rayearth


October
24. Bloodborne (co-op playthrough with girlfriend) - time 17:53
25. 3D Dot Game Heroes - time 21:19
26. Outrun (Saturn) route A
27. Asuka 120% Burning Fest Limited (Saturn)
28. Super Mario Odyssey 303 moons (561 moons post-game)

November
29. Yomawari: Midnight Shadows
30. Elemental Gimmick Gear - time: 23:30
31. Ghost Sweeper Mikami (SFC)
32. Bloodborne + DLC - time: 17:12
33. Tetris Battle Gaiden
34. Resident Evil 4 - time: 23:23

December
35. Kirby Super Star
36. Street Fighter 2 Turbo
37. Xenoblade 2 - time: 117:55

Cubivore_ fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Dec 24, 2017

discount cathouse
Mar 25, 2009
reserved

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

1. mega man X3

Lumpy the Cook
Feb 4, 2011

Drippy-goo-yay, mother-gunker!
Darksiders: Warmastered Edition - 1/15
Halo Wars: Definitive Edition - 2/19
Halo Wars 2 - 3/9
Total War: Warhammer - 3/21
Dragon Quest Heroes: The World Tree's Woe and the Bright Below - 4/29
Sonic the Hedgehog - 5/22
Europa Universalis IV - 6/22
Hidden Folks - 7/3
The Clockwork Man - 7/4
Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor - 7/9
Until Dawn - 7/11
Hearts of Iron IV - 8/3
Total War: Rome II - 8/28
Battlefield 1 - 9/10
Middle-Earth: Shadow of War - 10/23
A Hat In Time - 10/26
Super Mario Odyssey - 10/27
Call of Duty: WWII - 11/6

Lumpy the Cook fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Nov 7, 2017

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

Lots of people beating g Reserved this year, is it any good?

Mr. Sophistication
May 16, 2014

I know this wasn't your original avatar but I just love this game. Cheers, rediscover.
Reserved

qnqnx
Nov 14, 2010

I'm in.

Evil Eagle
Nov 5, 2009

1) Shovel Knight: Plague of Shadows
2) The Legend of Zelda
2.1) The Legend of Zelda deathless in 59:14.
2.2) The Legend of Zelda (Swordless)
3) The Legend of Zelda Randomized (Chaos Mode seed 424492663455)
3.1) Zelda 1 randomized again
3.2) Zelda 1 Randomized Insanity mode
3.3) Zelda Randomized again
4) Resident Evil 7 biohazard
5) Final Fantasy XV
6) Yakuza 0
7) The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
8) Europa Universalis 4
9) Blaster Master Zero - True Ending
10) Battle Circuit - Bad Ending
10.1) Battle Circuit - Good Ending
11) Cadillacs and Dinosaurs
12) Shovel Knight: Specter of Torment
12.1) Shovel Knight: Specter of Torment - 0% Run
12.2) Shovel Knight: Specter of Torment - New Game+ 0%
13) Puyo Puyo Tetris Adventure Mode (130.0%)
14) NieRAutomata: routes ABCDE (hard mode)
15) Persona 5 (Hard Mode). Clear time 106:16
16) Sonic CD (PC, 2011) All Good Futures
16.1) Sonic CD (PC, 2011) All Good Futures again
16.2) Sonic CD (PC, 2011) All Good Futures. New (very slow) PB: 20:25
16.3) Sonic CD (PC, 2011) All Good Futures. New PB: 19:04
16.4) Sonic CD (PC, 2011) All Good Futures. New PB: 17:49
16.5) Sonic CD (Sega CD, 1993)
16.6) Sonic CD (PC, 2011)
16.7) Sonic CD (PC, 2011) w/ Tails
16.8) Sonic CD (PC, 2011) All Good Futures. New PB: 17:26
16.9) Sonic CD (PC, 2011) All Good Futures. New PB: 17:05
16.10) Sonic CD (PC, 2011) All Good Futures. New PB: 16:48
17) Sonic Generations (3DS)
17.1) Sonic Generations 3DS (All S-Ranks)
18) Sonic 1 (3DS)
19) Sonic Generations (PC)
20) Kirby's Blowout Blast, all gold medals
21) Splatoon single player
22) Sonic 3 & Knuckles using the Sonic 3 Complete hack
22.1) Sonic 3 & Knuckles as Knuckles
22.2) Sonic 3 & Knuckles: Tails Run
22.3) Sonic 3 & Amy Rose
23) Knuckles Chaotix (co-op)
24) Sonic Robo Blast 2 with Knuckles
25) Sonic Adventure DX
26) Sonic Mania
26.1) Sonic Mania as Knuckles
26.2) Sonic Mania as Tails
26.3) Sonic Mania as Sonic and Tails
27) Resident Evil 4 (Professional)
27.1) Resident Evil 4 (Professional) - Four Handguns run
27.2) Resident Evil 4 (Professional) - No Weapon Upgrades
28) Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine
29) Super Mario 64 Online
29.1) Super Mario 64 Online (120 star challenge)
30) Kirby's Avalanche
31) Cuphead
32) Puyo Puyo 15th Anniversary (All S-Ranks)
33) Puyo Pop Fever
34) Puyo Puyo 7
35) Resident Evil 2 Leon A/Claire B
35.1) Resident Evil 2 Claire A/Leon B A-ranks
35.2) Resident Evil 2 Leon A/Claire B No Saves
36) Super Punch Out
37) Super Mario Odyssey - 254 moons
37.1) Super Mario Odyssey - 999 Power Moons/All Purple Coins
37.2) Super Mario Odyssey in 1:37:45
38) Sonic Forces
39) Wario Land 3 100/100 treasure
40) FFXIV A Realm Reborn
41) Bayonetta 2 with Jeanne - All Platinum on 3rd Climax
41.1) Bayonetta 2 with Jeanne - All Platinum on ∞ Climax
42) The Legend of Zelda: The Forbidden City - play time 22 hours 10 minutes
43) Bayonetta (PC) - All Platinum on Normal
44) The Legend of Zelda: Promised Lands
45) Super Metroid

Evil Eagle fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Jan 1, 2018

Fungah!
Apr 30, 2011



In Training posted:

1. mega man X3

your an animal

Spoderman
Aug 2, 2004

1. Metroid: Zero Mission--1/9
2. Metroid Fusion-- 1/17
3. Rhythm Thief & Emperor's Treasure-- 1/25
4. Metal Gear Solid 4-- 1/27
5. Mario's Picross-- 2/17
6. Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker-- 2/18
7. Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes--2/24
8. Policenauts (Saturn version)-- 3/13
9. Metal Gear Solid-- 3/17
10. Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance-- 3/25
11. Steins;gate 0-- 4/1
12. Yakuza 2-- 4/22
13. Shovel Knight: Plague of Shadows-- 4/24
14. Space Funeral-- 5/15
15. Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain-- 5/19
16. The World Ends With You-- 5/26
17. Cyber Troopers Virtual On-- 6/2
18. Yakuza 3-- 6/9
19. Metal Gear Solid 2 HD-- 6/11
20. IA/VT Colorful-- 8/27
21. Nier Automata-- 11/4
22. Persona 4: Dancing All Night-- 11/27
23. Persona 5-- 12/16

Spoderman fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Jan 1, 2018

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Fungah! posted:

your an animal

I beat it yesterday night actually. SOrry for misrepresenting.

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

1. iZBOT - 1/6
2. Mighty Switch Force! Hyper Drive Edition - 1/7
3. DOOM (2016) - 1/11
4. Scribblenauts Unlimited - 1/12
5. Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc - 1/21
6. Shovel Knight - 2/4
7. Shovel Knight: Plague of Shadows - 2/6
8. Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair - 2/11
9. Night in the Woods - 2/27
10. Luigi's Mansion - 3/18
11. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door - 3/25
12. Super Mario Sunshine - 4/1
13. Shovel Knight: Specter of Torment - 4/8
14. Undertale (stick & bandage Pacifist run) - 4/10
15. Day of the Tentacle: Remastered - 4/23

symbolic fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Apr 24, 2017

Punished Chuck
Dec 27, 2010

1. Halo: CE Anniversary - 1/1
2. Rise of the Tomb Raider - 1/6
3. Quantum Break - 1/7
4. Halo 2: Anniversary- 1/14
5. Halo 3 - 1/16
6. Halo 3: ODST - 1/19
7. Halo: Reach - 1/21
8. Halo 4 - 1/26
9. Halo 5 - 1/28
10. Divinity: Original Sin - 1/30
11. For Honor - 2/18
12. Sniper: Ghost Warrior 2 - 2/19
13. Firewatch - 2/20
14. The Order: 1886 - 2/26
15. Watch Dogs 2 - 3/5
16. Sniper Elite III - 3/14
17. Battlefield 1 - 3/17
18. Mass Effect: Andromeda - 4/23
19. Wolfenstein: The Old Blood - 4/29
20. Dishonored - 5/8
21. Dishonored 2 - 5/12
22. Ghost Recon: Wildlands - 5/22
23. Far Cry: Primal - 5/29
24. House of the Dying Sun - 6/6
25. Prey - 6/17
26. Ori and the Blind Forest - 7/4
27. The Raven: Legacy of a Master Thief - 7/30
28. Doom (2016) - 8/6
29. Sniper: Ghost Warrior 3 - 8/26
30. Strike Vector EX - 9/30
31. Fran Bow - 10/13
32. Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor - 10/14
33. Middle-Earth: Shadow of War - 10/29
34. Call of Duty: WWII - 11/4
35. The Turing Test - 11/5
36. Star Wars: Battlefront II (2017) - 11/18
37. Telltale Games’ Guardians of the Galaxy - 11/18
38. Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus - 11/23
39. Sleeping Dogs - 12/31

Punished Chuck fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Jan 1, 2018

mycophobia
May 7, 2008

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

I'm going to do this this year

1. Rise of the Tomb Raider (1/1)
2. Picross 3D Round 2 - All Rainbow Gems (1/5)
3. Alien Isolation (1/6)
4. Shantae: Half-Genie Hero (100% items) (1/8)
5. Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse - Happy Ending (1/18)
6. Gravity Rush 2 (1/25)
7. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King - True Ending (2/2)
8. Wild Arms 3 (2/9)
9. Jotun (2/12)
10. Momodora: Reverie Under the Moonlight (2/13)
11. Steins;Gate (2/20)
12. Pony Island (2/25)
13. Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen - True Ending (2/26)
14. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 45.24% (3/13)
15. Severed (3/14)
16. Nier: Automata (3/22)
17. Persona 5 (4/13)
18. Horizon: Zero Dawn (4/21)
19. Shovel Knight: Specter of Torment (4/22)
20. Bye-Bye Boxboy (4/24)
21. Titanfall 2 (4/27)
22. Odin Sphere Leifthrasir (5/3)
23. The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky the 3rd (5/8)
24. Tales of Berseria (5/22)
25. Picross 3D (6/2)
26. Snake Pass (6/6)
27. Wild Arms (6/7)
28. Night in the Woods (6/12)
29. Prey (2017) (6/18)
30. Heart's Medicine: Time to Heal (6/25)
31. Heart's Medicine: Hospital Heat (6/27)
32. The House in Fata Morgana (6/29)
33. Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy (7/16)
34. Hero Core (7/17)
35. Kirby's Blowout Blast (7/18) - Platinum on all stages (8/5)
36. One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 (7/30)
37. Hey! Pikmin (8/2)
38. Until Dawn (8/3)
38. The Sexy Brutale (8/6)
39. Wild Arms 2 (8/13)
40. Hollow Knight - True Ending (8/18)
41. Half-Minute Hero (8/26)
42. Hand of Fate (9/1)
43. Infamous Second Son (9/13)
44. Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne - Neutral Ending (9/14)
45. Metroid: Samus Returns (9/16)
46. Layton's Mystery Journey: Katrielle and the Millionaires' Conspiracy (10/8)
47. A Hat in Time (10/10)
48. Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga (10/14)
49. Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond The Myth (10/26)
50. Super Mario Odyssey (10/31)
51. Steamworld Dig 2 (11/2)
52. Hand of Fate 2 (11/11)
53. Snipperclips (11/19)
54. Darkest Dungeon (11/22)
55. Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle(11/27)
56. Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2 (12/1)
57. Republique
58. Evoland 2
59. Okami
60. Tokyo Xanadu eX+ (12/28)

Regy Rusty fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Dec 28, 2017

HORMELCHILI
Jan 13, 2010


1. Mafia 3
2. Final Fantasy XV
3. Uncharted 4
4. Ratchet & Clank (2016)
5. Legend of Zelda BotW
6. Yakuza 0
7. Persona 5
8. Prey (2017)
9. Judge Dredd: Dredd vs. Death (2003)
10. Domina
11. XCOM 2 War of the Chosen

HORMELCHILI fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Sep 13, 2017

Soral
May 30, 2009

i'm just going to post as i go

Evil Eagle
Nov 5, 2009

I've only played 1 game for all of 2017 so far so my list is probably going to shrink a lot this year.

trying to jack off
Dec 31, 2007

i havent gamed at all this year

Soral
May 30, 2009

i'm going to play 2,017 games in 2017

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

1. Shovel Knight: Plague of Shadows (1/9)
2. Resident Evil 4 (1/11)
3. Resident Evil 5 (1/17)
4. The Last Guardian (2/4)
5. Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain (2/7)
6. Battlefield 1 (2/16)
7. Final Fantasy XV (2/19)
8. VVVVVV (3/9)
9. Mega Man Legends (3/9)
10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (3/14)
11. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD (3/15)
12. NieR: Automata (3/28)
13. Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor (4/2)
14. Persona 5 (4/29)
15. Shovel Knight: Specter of Torment (5/1)
16. Abzû (5/7)
17. Resident Evil 6 (5/31)
18. Horizon Zero Dawn (6/26)
19. Crash Bandicoot (N. Sane Trilogy) (7/13)
20. Persona 4 Golden (True Ending) (8/23)
21. Uncharted: The Lost Legacy (9/7)
22. Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus (10/30)
23. Call of Duty: WWII (11/13)
24. Cuphead (12/27)

Pablo Nergigante fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Dec 28, 2017

extremely steampunk
Sep 11, 2001

the Room
Silent Age
Age of Decadence
The Witness

extremely steampunk fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Feb 27, 2017

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Alien Isolation

frank.club
Jan 15, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Regy Rusty posted:

Alien Isolation

this is a good game

pass on the dlc stuff, the scavenger dlc is kinda neat but it's not outstanding. The nostromo dlc is 15 to thirty minutes long

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

I beat Hearts of Iron IV (won World War II)

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Major Isoor
Mar 23, 2011

In Training posted:

I beat Hearts of Iron IV (won World War II)

What country were you? (And you don't have a screenshot of the world from the end of the game, do you? There are some pretty crazy alt-history endings I've seen from HoI :D )

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