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Morby posted:FF7 Remake will be a launch title for PS5 in 2020.
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Jun 26, 2017 21:20
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Real hurthling! posted:if ps4 library doesn't totally carry over i think they are very stupid. they got their do over and benefited hugely from xbox following suit in 2013, a mistake they realized and have clawed back but only after people sold entire collections and moved over, but to do it again would be a disaster. Why do backwards compatibility when they can just make HD/4k ports next generation and resell people the same game?
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Jun 26, 2017 21:29
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Detective No. 27 posted:You're being too optimistic. FF7 Remake will be released with FF7 vs FFXVI on PS6 in 2025.
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Jun 26, 2017 21:33
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katkillad2 posted:Why do backwards compatibility when they can just make HD/4k ports next generation and resell people the same game? Because it leaves them wide open to a competitor swooping in, like Sony did with Xbox 360 owners. If Sony's next console is backwards compatible, it's a straightforward decision to upgrade to it. If it isn't backwards compatible, maybe I'll take a look at the competition since I'm losing my library anyway.
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Jun 26, 2017 21:37
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i really think people overstate the appeal of backwards compatibility, there was probably a bigger uproar about taking the other os out of the ps3 and i genuinely dont think anyone bought an xbonx over a ps4 or switch because of it.
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Jun 26, 2017 21:43
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katkillad2 posted:Why do backwards compatibility when they can just make HD/4k ports next generation and resell people the same game? This is me immediate thought too. For better or worse (worse)this gen publishers realized that name recognition sells and that its was easier to remake a thing the do a sequel. See Shadow of the Collasis remake thrilling the hell out of everyone at E3. Gamers have shown publishers that we are happy as a clam buying the same content over and over. Its a huge incentive NOT to do backwards capatability. Motherfuckers still buying Sky-loving-rim
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Jun 26, 2017 21:47
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rabidsquid posted:i really think people overstate the appeal of backwards compatibility, there was probably a bigger uproar about taking the other os out of the ps3 and i genuinely dont think anyone bought an xbonx over a ps4 or switch because of it. It's a nice feature, but it's not a dealbreaker for me one way or the other. I usually keep my consoles anyway.
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Jun 26, 2017 21:47
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acksplode posted:Because it leaves them wide open to a competitor swooping in, like Sony did with Xbox 360 owners. If Sony's next console is backwards compatible, it's a straightforward decision to upgrade to it. If it isn't backwards compatible, maybe I'll take a look at the competition since I'm losing my library anyway. This is exactly what I did before this gen. And then Xbone had always online ridiculousness and wanted an always on Mic and camera in my room. Do they still even make Kinect games or have Kinect functionality? Soured me on the whole thing. Sony could easily do the same thing.
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Jun 26, 2017 21:51
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rabidsquid posted:i really think people overstate the appeal of backwards compatibility, there was probably a bigger uproar about taking the other os out of the ps3 and i genuinely dont think anyone bought an xbonx over a ps4 or switch because of it. Xbone BC was too little and too late for it to impact the purchase decisions of early adopters. But if the Xbone played most 360 games at launch, I might have considered it over a PS4. I mained 360 last gen, so I wasn't looking forward to buying a new library and setting up a new friends list and stuff.
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Jun 26, 2017 21:52
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Morby posted:FF7 Remake will be a launch title for PS5 in 2020. Day 1. Real hurthling! posted:Part 0 prologue maybe. Day 1. rabidsquid posted:i really think people overstate the appeal of backwards compatibility, there was probably a bigger uproar about taking the other os out of the ps3 and i genuinely dont think anyone bought an xbonx over a ps4 or switch because of it. Backwards compatibility doesn't really matter if you have a system-seller (Soul Calibur, Halo 1, Uncharted 2), but it sure helps when your game library sucks, or has no clear draw. The other option is INDIES wevegotINDIES!!! BeanpolePeckerwood fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Jun 26, 2017 |
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Jun 26, 2017 21:53
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acksplode posted:Xbone BC was too little and too late for it to impact the purchase decisions of early adopters. But if the Xbone played most 360 games at launch, I might have considered it over a PS4. I mained 360 last gen, so I wasn't looking forward to buying a new library and setting up a new friends list and stuff. i guess i dont understand how this is fundamentally different from buying a ps4 and continuing to play your 360, and dont see why it would incentivize you to buy an x zone. BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Backwards compatibility doesn't really matter if you have a system-seller (Soul Calibur, Halo 1, Uncharted 2), but it sure helps when your game library sucks, or has no clear draw. okay i do have to say that during that period where the only rpgs on xbox 360 / ps3 were that insanely bad game enchanted arms and the last odyssey that being able to play ps2 rpgs was really nice on the ps3. that rpg drought was bad.
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Jun 26, 2017 21:56
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It matters at launch imo
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Jun 26, 2017 21:57
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I literally rebuy games on ps4 that I own on 360 because I'm a lazy gently caress. My 360 is right next to my ps4. Part of it is that I really like the DS4 over the 360 controller now.
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Jun 26, 2017 21:57
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rabidsquid posted:i guess i dont understand how this is fundamentally different from buying a ps4 and continuing to play your 360, and dont see why it would incentivize you to buy an x zone. I don't like to keep a pile of consoles around, especially one from last gen that I'm not playing much but keeping around just in case I might play something on it. My media cabinet really only has room for two consoles, three at a stretch, at that should be more than enough.
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Jun 26, 2017 22:00
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Trine 2 and all DLC for $3 (digital code) https://www.amazon.com/Trine-Complete-Story-Digital-Code/dp/B00GMPJKDA?tag=slickappfp-20&ascsubtag=691463a65ab211e7ae3c0640c0794e280INT
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Jun 26, 2017 22:00
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I hate having to keep my PS3 around but I play Demon's Souls, Deadly Premonition and Buzz not infrequently, as well as Fifa 14 with my GF who just got a PS3. I'd kill for a PS4 with BC because the PS3 is such a loving awkwardly designed console, it's huge and you can't sit anything else on top of it.
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Jun 26, 2017 22:17
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i cant go back to the ps3 because everything is so miserably slow. i cant believe the tiny amount of memory they dedicated to the ui didnt entirely kill it last generation, the updates they did to all of that must have been herculean. remember when the store on the ps3 was just a web browser that went to the playstation website. remember when you couldnt go to the dashboard if you were in a game without quitting the game
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Jun 26, 2017 22:26
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rabidsquid posted:i cant go back to the ps3 because everything is so miserably slow. i cant believe the tiny amount of memory they dedicated to the ui didnt entirely kill it last generation, the updates they did to all of that must have been herculean. the store is SHOCKINGLY slow these days. you're talking minutes just to load the UI . loving garbage.
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Jun 26, 2017 22:38
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Quantum of Phallus posted:the store is SHOCKINGLY slow these days. you're talking minutes just to load the UI . loving garbage. Yeah its insane. I dont know why they dont make it a streamlined page. Its terrible.
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Jun 26, 2017 22:40
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I'd buy more games on my PS4 if there was guaranteed backwards compatibility for the next sony console whenever it comes. As is, I only buy 'this will never come out of sony consoles' games. Everything else I get on PC  (And if Sony didn't block all my credit cards for whatever reason. Needing to buy psn cards at the mall shuts down any drunken/impulsive buy) Miss Mowcher fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Jun 26, 2017 |
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Jun 26, 2017 23:04
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The website store is even worse. Who trough a website in 2017 need a loading animation? somebody at Sony. https://store.playstation.com/
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Jun 26, 2017 23:05
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Tei posted:The website store is even worse. Who trough a website in 2017 need a loading animation? somebody at Sony. The loading animation is to give Sony time to turn the server on.
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Jun 26, 2017 23:08
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Quantum of Phallus posted:The loading animation is to give Sony time to turn the server on. It gives me time to run down to the massive human-sized hamster wheel that powers the Store and start panting and wheezing my way through your transaction. If it fails, you know I've fallen out of the wheel and have broken my ankle or something. (It's also checking all your entitlements so you don't end up re-buying a game you already own.)
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Jun 27, 2017 00:05
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are there any current plans to make the psn store not terrible?
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Jun 27, 2017 00:07
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SamBishop posted:It gives me time to run down to the massive human-sized hamster wheel that powers the Store and start panting and wheezing my way through your transaction. If it fails, you know I've fallen out of the wheel and have broken my ankle or something. (It's also checking all your entitlements so you don't end up re-buying a game you already own.) I've seen your trophy list, you need the exercise.
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Jun 27, 2017 00:08
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Awesome! posted:are there any current plans to make the psn store not terrible? yes. its in a file marked "do not do until forced to" along with name changes
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Jun 27, 2017 00:09
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I still find myself intrigued by Elite Dangerous. It may turn out to not be a game for me. I guess I need to find a good youtube that shows sort of an overview of the gameplay loop. I am presently playing pick up and play games like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and ARMS, which are great, but are in the other room. I'd love an "I'm playing something a bit more involved while I sit at my desk with m PS4 next to my work computer but I find myself wondering if Elite Dangerous is just too "boring" for me. (I say that in quotes because clearly it is a good game, it's not you, it's me, etc...) Off to try and find a good video or a writeup, I suppose. [edit] Oh poo poo, it's only 29.99? Why? Not as much game? Just my good luck? Funnily enough, the 29.99 version claims to be out at midnight EST. The bundle for 59.99 claims to be out at 11 am EST tomorrow. Feenix fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Jun 27, 2017 00:37
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The store UI on console and web are atrocious At least you can use the DS4 with the PS3 though. The DS3 was horrendous
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Jun 27, 2017 00:51
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The idea that Sony might have to include backwards compatibility or else Microsoft might swoop in is ludicrous because Microsoft has no games THIS generation. There is literally no reason to promote backwards compatibility (Xbox 5 can play... uh, 360 games and Titanfall!) because we will literally buy games we already own if they are prettier.
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Jun 27, 2017 01:51
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I'd be really interested in hearing about people's experiences with Elite Dangerous. I have a few friends on PC who talk about it in a way that makes me really want to play it, and it'd be nice to know if the experience transports well to console.
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Jun 27, 2017 01:53
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Yeah I'm probably gonna get it. I actually bought it last year for PC on the Steam Sale but it makes my computer cry for mercy so I figure the PS4 version would fit the bill. I hear a lot about how open-ended it is and what I hear from friends on it too makes it sound really fun.
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Jun 27, 2017 01:58
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Bust Rodd posted:The idea that Sony might have to include backwards compatibility or else Microsoft might swoop in is ludicrous because Microsoft has no games THIS generation. There is literally no reason to promote backwards compatibility (Xbox 5 can play... uh, 360 games and Titanfall!) because we will literally buy games we already own if they are prettier. You're missing the point. I don't care if Microsoft has backwards compat for their next console since I don't own an Xbone and likely never will. I do care if Sony has backwards compat for PS5, since I own a PS4. So if Sony adds BC, PS5 will almost certainly be my main console next gen, since it'd be a no brainer if I get to bring along my library. Without BC, there's a chance the next Xbox could draw me away since I don't have a strong reason to stay in the Sony ecosystem.
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Jun 27, 2017 02:22
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Also on the topic of E:D -- can someone explain the difference between the standard game for $30 on the PS store, and the $60 Commander Deluxe package? Which is worth getting?
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Jun 27, 2017 02:30
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Montalvo posted:Also on the topic of E:D -- can someone explain the difference between the standard game for $30 on the PS store, and the $60 Commander Deluxe package? Which is worth getting? The deluxe package includes the Horizons expansion, which allows for landing on atmosphere-less rocky planets and exploring them via a dune buggy kind of vehicle. The gotcha is that you can seek out engineers that can boost the capabilities of your ship. These engineers live in outposts on these planets so without the Horizons expansion you will be locked out of being able to engineer your ship to be better, stronger, faster.
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Jun 27, 2017 03:04
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I lost 90% of my interest in ED once it became clear PSVR support wasn't happening. It doesn't strike me as something worth diving into without it since it was clearly designed with that in mind (although I'll probably end up getting it anyway since I love spaceships).
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Jun 27, 2017 03:15
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A little late to the party but backwards compatibility is a pretty big deal to me. I'm tired of losing or rebuying my library
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Jun 27, 2017 03:18
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illBilliam posted:The deluxe package includes the Horizons expansion, which allows for landing on atmosphere-less rocky planets and exploring them via a dune buggy kind of vehicle. The gotcha is that you can seek out engineers that can boost the capabilities of your ship. These engineers live in outposts on these planets so without the Horizons expansion you will be locked out of being able to engineer your ship to be better, stronger, faster. Tell me more about this ship upgrading thing. Would you say it's vital? Is there anything else about Horizons that you'd say is like an essential thing? I haven't pre-ordered yet and I'm sitting here trying to figure if I wanna go base or get the Deluxe.
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Jun 27, 2017 03:35
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Policenaut posted:Tell me more about this ship upgrading thing. Would you say it's vital? Is there anything else about Horizons that you'd say is like an essential thing? I haven't pre-ordered yet and I'm sitting here trying to figure if I wanna go base or get the Deluxe. I'm not completely sure how vital it is. I played this on a macbook pro until Frontier stopped development for that platform when Horizons was released. What I do know is that if you plan on pvp'ing (or just playing in open), yes it is vital because you could get easily outclassed by players with souped up murder-boats. Engineering also offers quality of life improvements for exploring with longer jump ranges with tweaks to the frameshift drive. I'm not sure if NPCs have engineered gear or not if you don't have Horizons installed. If they do, then they outclass you by default, rendering the base game a $30 demo... in my opinion. Edit: For the record, I bought the deluxe package. I stopped playing this game on the macbook because I couldn't participate in engineering.I don't see any point in playing this game without it. Double Edit: If you get the game, please join us in the community group SpaaaaceGoooons. Send a direct request or hit up myself or Parkingtigers for an invite. My psn is illsense. illBilliam fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Jun 27, 2017 04:12
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Thanks for clarifying! I'm still on the fence, but it looks like I'll buy the package with the expansion in it.
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Montalvo posted:Also on the topic of E:D -- can someone explain the difference between the standard game for $30 on the PS store, and the $60 Commander Deluxe package? Which is worth getting? Or the Legendary disc edition for 49.99 at BB??! [Ed] which seems to include the Horizons DLC. Feenix fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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