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SamuraiFoochs posted:
...This final was good but no way was it as good as Ibushi/TJP.
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if you think that was anywhere near the performance this was.
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Gaz-L posted:...This final was good but no way was it as good as Ibushi/TJP. Yes but TJP did not get as over.
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Gaz-L posted:...This final was good but no way was it as good as Ibushi/TJP. That was the semi-final yo
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Gaz-L posted:...This final was good but no way was it as good as Ibushi/TJP. agree to disagree
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Benne posted:The CWC had better matches, this had better storytelling. I don't think it's really fair to compare the two, they had completely different objectives. I'll take good storytelling over good matches 9/10. Make me care you fuckers.
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Gonzo McFee posted:I'll take good storytelling over good matches 9/10. Make me care you fuckers. Same
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Revenant Threshold posted:Two hours, and WWE managed to make a contemptible heel and a face that had the whole place on their feet cheering for him. I feel like people are giving WWE too much credit. They put on a great two nights but they didn't make Bate or Dunne. Fans came to that show already knowing both of those guys, Bate got over easily as a face because he was already over with the fans. It was smart of wwe to put dunne against bate though as otherwise people would have cheered for dunne.
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Kaveman posted:I feel like people are giving WWE too much credit. They put on a great two nights but they didn't make Bate or Dunne. They got both guys over with a ton of this thread.
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Jan 16, 2017 00:09
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I already liked Dunne from his BOLA work and the YouTube snippets I've seen but he's now one of my favorites based on this tournament. I have a bunch of WWE guys I absolutely need to see him against. For the culture
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Yes but TJP did not get as over. In this light CWC was a bit of a failure. Failed to get the winner over. Shackled him with a lame gimmick after the win too. At least we got Metallik, Tozawa and the second coming of The Brian Kendrick tho.
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Also I knew nothing of Tyler Bate and had a legit emotional markout reaction to his win, so mission accomplished, Building New Stars
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Also Wolfgang rules and that short and sweet promo he cut after night one was a pure distillation of what I like in promos
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Kaveman posted:I feel like people are giving WWE too much credit. They put on a great two nights but they didn't make Bate or Dunne. I knew nether of them and as far as I know the roster was considered disappointing because there weren't any main event names in the tournament.
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Gonzo McFee posted:I knew nether of them and as far as I know the roster was considered disappointing because there weren't any main event names in the tournament. I ended up not watching it because no one on the roster really jumped out to me. I'll probably come back around on it this week. I'm sure they were hoping to have a guy like Marty Scurll really anchor the tournament. Shame about that.
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NickRoweFillea posted:Also I knew nothing of Tyler Bate and had a legit emotional markout reaction to his win, so mission accomplished, Building New Stars I could really see him in the WWE 
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rovert posted:I could really see him in the WWE Gallagher is like the most over cruiser so you're really hurting your own case here
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rovert posted:I could really see him in the WWE As a tag team with Gallagher? Yeah me too they can wrestle my fantasy team of Mandrews/Tozawa
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Gallagher is like the most over cruiser so you're really hurting your own case here 
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rovert posted:I am Simon Gotch loving sucks and the Vaudevillians were only over for a single match because of your nemesis Blue Pants. I don't wanna be that guy but seriously rovert don't be obtuse.
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Dude I got a weird rear end grudge against Gallagher on account of a bunch of goons act like he's better than ZSJ when he's not, but even I admit that he's a very talented and entertaining dude who got over in an almost entirely heatless division Besides if you're gonna compare anyone to the Vaudevillains in a way that's amusing but has the most tenuous connection to reality, obviously it's Bobby Fish = Simon Gotch and Kyle O'Reilly = Aiden English
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Gonzo McFee posted:I knew nether of them and as far as I know the roster was considered disappointing because there weren't any main event names in the tournament. Those two were probably the biggest names. And I was speaking specifically about the fans in the audience which without their hype I don't think the lads will have gotten over with the home audience.
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I had no idea who any of these guys were until yesterday, and I marked out big time to Bate's victory. Its not just a matter of being over with the crowd, it's a matter of good storytelling. As someone who attended both shows, I can guarantee you that the pop that Bate got on his first match is nothing compared to the ones he got in the last hour of today's show.
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Slightly off-camera William Regal is sneering at him.
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Gorn Myson posted:I had no idea who any of these guys were until yesterday, and I marked out big time to Bate's victory. Its not just a matter of being over with the crowd, it's a matter of good storytelling. As someone who attended both shows, I can guarantee you that the pop that Bate got on his first match is nothing compared to the ones he got in the last hour of today's show. Yeah fair enough maybe my knowledge of them prior is masking my view of this. I definitely think they did a great job with the storytelling as I was rooting for Bate even though I'm a huge Dunne mark. Plus It's got me interested in a UK show if they do it, which I was kind of against before this.
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Jerusalem posted:Slightly off-camera William Regal is sneering at him. But secretly nodding with approval as villain recognize villain
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I've always been one for storytelling over workrate and while Dunne / Bate might have been merely a very good match (I feel like Dunne could have been more vicious), the storytelling was efficient and pitch perfect. I got to it late and almost spoiled myself trying to avoid results on the app, actually thought I'd read that Dunne had clenched it. A nice surprise.
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The #1 thing this tournament has made me want is Regal vs Dunne and I'm gonna be really upset if that does not happen.
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Capsaicin posted:The #1 thing this tournament has made me want is Regal vs Dunne and I'm gonna be really upset if that does not happen. Prepare to be upset because Regal has Edge Neck and can't take bumps anymore. That's probably the one reason why Regal vs. Joe never happened.
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Yeah, I think the last match Regal had was back in FCW where he put over Ambrose via "beaten until unable to stand up"
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He had a match with Cesaro in NXT, but yeah he's done
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skaboomizzy posted:Yeah, I think the last match Regal had was back in FCW where he put over Ambrose via "beaten until unable to stand up" He put over Cesaro after that. And didn't put over Ohno.
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