Crotch Bat posted:

I did see one on Twitter last night, JMU can claim both the FCS and FBS titles.

e: figured it out, it's Clemson < Pitt < Northwestern < Illinois State(loving really, NW?) < NDSU < JMU

MyStereoHasMono posted:

You can't just discount the actual games played because of gut feelings and eyeball tests. In 06 everyone 'knew' the two best teams in the country were OSU and Michigan - you really going to tell me Florida should be playing OSU in the NCG? Earlier in this season many people thought Louisville was the only team that had a chance of beating Bama.

Aside from all that, its tricky to penalize a team for losing in a playoff game. AND one of USC's losses was Alabama's second biggest margin of victory of their entire season, second only to Kent State, by two whole points. So yeah I don't think its outrageous to rank UW above USC.

iospace posted:

If we're going by losses, it should be Clemson, Alabama, then Western Michigan

MyStereoHasMono posted:

Going by losses and wins.

Ohio State beat three teams in the final top 10, including scheduling a marquee OOC opponent. Losses to #1 and #7.
Penn State beat two teams in the final top 10. Did not schedule a tough OOC opponent. Losses to #3, #10, unranked Pitt.

I get the idea of Penn State's head to head counting for a lot but so should everything else, its at the very least close enough to where I dont understand any indignation.

iospace posted:

This is why I hate "strength of schedule" when it comes to CFB (college sports in general, really). It's 100% arbitrary and people use it to smug when it comes to their team.

MyStereoHasMono posted:

Going by losses and wins.

Ohio State beat three teams in the final top 10, including scheduling a marquee OOC opponent. Losses to #1 and #7.
Penn State beat two teams in the final top 10. Did not schedule a tough OOC opponent. Losses to #3, #10, unranked Pitt.

I get the idea of Penn State's head to head counting for a lot but so should everything else, its at the very least close enough to where I dont understand any indignation.

iospace posted:

This is why I hate "strength of schedule" when it comes to CFB (college sports in general, really). It's 100% arbitrary and people use it to smug when it comes to their team.

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Pitt was a tough OOC opponent.

This may be sour grapes, but the first month of the season really shouldn't count for much. Teams need time to figure things out and FBS football is the only sport on the planet where you can't play your way out off a slow start. YSU lost three games and played their way to the title game. The Dolphins started 1-4 or something and made the playoffs. Its not how you start, but how you finish. (PSU, USC vs Louisville, OSU)

single-mode fiber posted:

My schedule can beat up your schedule. Also my schedule works at Nintendo.

PrinceRandom posted:

gently caress Ohio state and the big 10

kittenmittons posted:

Penn State always putting too much emphasis on the back end.

Sash! posted:

Penn State and Ohio State have the same number of wins, but Penn State managed to actually score points in its bowl loss. A whole mess of points. Ohio State looked like hot trash and deserves to be shamed.

quote:

All I can say to Dabo Swinney is, you’re a hell of a coach, you made college football better," Cowherd said. "You gave me gave me four-and-a-half hours – the game was a tad long – but four-and-a-half hours of great entertainment. And your players showed such great character in the most crucial moments. I couldn’t be happier for Clemson.

Thoguh posted:

https://twitter.com/PFF_Sam/status/818819466159071236

https://twitter.com/SageRosenfels18/status/818895757470236673

kittenmittons posted:

I was always under the impression that both starting and finishing well are important aspects of success but apparently I am a crazy person.

whiteyfats posted:

Notable great qb Sage Rosenfels weighing in.

TBeats posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3_hi7gOjE0

TBeats posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3_hi7gOjE0

Scarf posted:

Besides, this is more akin to the flat spin that killed Goose in Top Gun

quote:

For the first time in 49 years, no college football teams from Texas were included in The Associated Press’ postseason poll when the final Top 25 rankings for the 2016 season were tabulated.

The closest the Lone Star State came to a ranked team among its 12 FBS programs was Houston (9-4), a 34-10 loser to San Diego State in the Las Vegas Bowl. The Cougars were the only team from the state to receive any votes from the AP panel. Houston received eight points from AP voters, which would have placed the team in a tie for 37th nationally with Temple and North Carolina if the rankings extended that far. A total of 42 different schools appeared on at least one of the 60 ballots.

Until Tuesday, the last time the state of Texas failed to place at least one team in the final AP college football poll of the season occurred in 1967, when the poll ranked only a Top 10.

Scarf posted:

Wow, Cowherd actually responded like a sensible human being.


Now I'm angry that he's eating crow in a rational manner!

rear end in a top hat

Lasagna Pilot posted:

Lasagna Pilot posted:

https://twitter.com/Mark_Schlabach/status/818880429382074369

iospace posted:

Actually, what was the final bowl game standings by conference?

The Glumslinger posted:

I don't have a particular issue with Washington being ranked above USC, they were more consistently good during the season. I think USC was better than Washington, but you can't just pretend like their losses to Stanford and Utah don't count

Crotch Bat posted:

If end of year polls are meant as a reflection on the whole season, absolutely not, Washington had a great year. If the polls are meant as a reflection on how the season ended then USC should be #3.

Speaking of, besides that Ju Ju Smith-Schuster kid did USC lose anyone else to the draft? If not I think they'll make a good run at the CFP next year.