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Invisible Handjob posted:yeah debate and discussion is by far one of the most outstandingly racist forums on the entire internet, it really sickens me. this place is basically stormfront without the n word
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Doctor Butts posted:The GBS/QCS-ification of D&D begins. please dont forums shame
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Gail Wynand posted:Guys I believe that we must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children everyone that disagrees with me is a nazi white supremacist. hmmm this position will surely encourage me to debate and discuss thigns with people in a levelheaded manner
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*totally isnt racist* *knows what the word octoroon means off the top of my head*
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Jan 12, 2017 20:11
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FactsAreUseless posted:I'm glad there's so much spirited discussion happening around questions of free speech and impartiality, but we just had to hide a thread because Kiwifarms members were using it to doxx and collect personal information on a bunch of our posters. I consider that a way bigger problem than the ongoing debate about D&D moderation. So if this is where we're having modding discussions now, I'm concerned about the fact that you and Lowtax have so wholeheartedly endorsed the site. I think encouraging people on SA to act more like a website that runs a wiki in which they have detailed every single moment of a person's life, down to the shirts he wears, and has entire forums dedicated to doxxing and harassing minorities online is a huge issue. A much bigger one than questions of mod bias, use of slurs on the site, how to handle political discussions in GBS, etc. We need to make it very, very clear that doxxing people, trying to dig up their information, or harassing them off SA isn't okay at all, and people who want to do that aren't welcome here. the thing is those kiwifarms posters are funny whereas the people whining about them are not so being the head of an internet comedy forum its pretty clear lowtax should side with the funny
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Gail Wynand posted:It's pretty simple, /pol/ and /r/the_donald already exist, their members aggressively try to turn every platform they can into an alt right cesspool, and they usually succeed absent aggressive moderation noted altright cesspools, twitter and reddit lollllllllll
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Jan 12, 2017 20:15
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Jan 12, 2017 20:16
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FactsAreUseless posted:Who gives a poo poo? What's funny about collecting photos and personal information about our users to fuel your weird hate of LGBT people? If that's this website's new direction then count me the gently caress out. I've been totally willing to support encouraging more flexibility on slurs. Hell, I've always been pretty flexible on that myself. Get D&D a conservative mod. Let's make it more free, let's allow for more debate from all sides. Let's change a situation in which D&D is liberal and GBS is conservative, that's all fine. But I draw the line at encouraging people to act more like the insane doxxing website full of complete loving nutjobs who have made it their job to obsess about the personal lives of other people. i dont hate lgbt people and its kinda telling that you're implying i do because i think kiwifarms threads are funny. theres a large difference between lgbt people and people like shmorky. the problem isnt that gbs is conservative (its not really besides a few posters) or that d&d is liberal (it's not really its some weird brand of only those who are sucking the hilldawgs dick) lol
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Jan 12, 2017 20:20
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Oil of Paris posted:lowtax posted that the photoshop was funny, not the doxxing and other completely insane bullshit ive only been reading the shmorky thread on kiwi farms so maybe i missed something
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Jan 12, 2017 20:21
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FactsAreUseless posted:This isn't what I'm trying to do. I don't think you - or anyone who posts on this site, actually - hates lgbt people or is trying to harass them. I'm just very annoyed that this other website has started trying to harass our users. If I'm conflating different issues, fine, fair, it just has me on edge. thats fair, im probably not completely up to date with what drama is going on
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Jan 12, 2017 20:25
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TTerrible posted:Slurs have always, always been used at your own risk. If you're not funny you're copping a prob or ban. this thread isnt about slurs or w/e its about d&d moderation. the qcs thread was about slurs and poo poo and the conclusion from the tax man himself was "who gives a gently caress if you say retard"
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Jan 12, 2017 20:27
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Doctor Butts posted:Who the gently caress tweets about D&D bullshit? possibly the persons who;s married to the person running the forum and also involved in running the forum
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Jan 12, 2017 20:34
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Beet Wagon posted:As exciting as it is going to be to read a bunch of rules-lawyering about why "lmao all homos should die of AIDS" is not in fact extreme enough to fall afoul of the new 'almost anything goes' rule, maybe we could revisit the huge announcement about how blanket hatred based on gender/race/whatever is cool and good as long as it isn't too bad, whatever that means? lowtax said like 5 times that hatespeech is still banned lol no one thinks its ok to say "all homos should die of aids" thats a blatant strawman. like the whole announcement was that blanket hatred is not ok but using the word fag in a sentence doesnt count as blanket hatred
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Jan 12, 2017 20:44
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Chelb posted:perhaps, it does well the person that runs the forums and most of the userbase does not agree with you on that so it seems like you're sol
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Jan 12, 2017 20:45
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Oil of Paris posted:i know that the prevailing argument strategy in DnD is poo poo like this, but it makes you look like an idiot *totally appropriate and cool gif of tv person or celebrity i like doing something so i dont have to actually think or use words to respond*
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Jan 12, 2017 20:47
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FactsAreUseless posted:Yeah, this is fair. Part of me wants some sort of public denunciation of this other site, like that's going to stop them or it's the reason it started. That doesn't actually solve the problem, I just can't shout at their dumb asses because they're on another website. uh maybe you should take a breather dude its just forums drama
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Jan 12, 2017 20:48
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Chelb posted:So I guess this wraps back around to people getting mad at a handful of six hour probations? because that's some pretty weak poo poo, op i dont give a poo poo about 6 hour probations i just want somethingawful to be a level of discourse higher than tumblr
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Jan 12, 2017 20:50
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Chelb posted:*A person hands out a grand total of four six hour probations with gifs attached to them* tell me about being a twee mexiphobe plz
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Sid Vicious posted:i think he is talking about the posting of gifs in response to posts as opposed to adding to the discussion not necessarily the use of gifs in probation reasons but i am not tolkien minority so this is conjecture shhhhh im totally mad about probations and d&d users aren't misconstruing what im saying purposefully because im a mean gbs man who says the retard word
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Jan 12, 2017 20:52
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*is totally cool and good with having a black president* *thinks an unpaid volunteer mod on an internet comedy forum is dumb who is black* uhhhh clearly u have a problem with black people in power!
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Jan 12, 2017 20:54
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shoophobo posted:does anyone remember laughter i keep it locked in a jar by my bedside and reminisce over better days
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Jan 12, 2017 20:56
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CrazyLittle posted:HAHAH AH ahH AHAHAHHA hAAHHAHAHA i stand by calling the annoying youtube man who is not homosexual nor fat a big gay fag
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Jan 12, 2017 20:57
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Lowtax posted:People will infer whatever they choose to infer, and that's usually whatever fits their worldview. There's no way to prevent people from reading in their own opinions or drawing their own conclusions. That's what people do. I've never claimed to be 100℅ objective, or able to definitely say what is or is not racist. Same with "hate speech." Is it okay for me to say "all pedophiles should be locked in prison?" (Queue joke about not having any mods here). That's technically hate speech, but it's a group of people a majority of our population have deemed unacceptable. Which groups should or should not be protected under hate speech? 
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Jan 12, 2017 20:59
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CrazyLittle posted:YOU. You are the discourse level lower than tumbler. bruh gbs aint d&d. in the forum for shitposting im gonna shitpost. this forum is for debating and discussing
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Jan 12, 2017 21:02
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CrazyLittle posted:Welcome to D&D: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3805093&userid=184480 i can debate and discuss with the reasonable people while mocking the idiots at the same time i'm talented like that. feel free to make this thread about me for some odd reason tho lol thank u thats my pugger and he is very rad vvvv
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Jan 12, 2017 21:05
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The ideology eater posted:Do you seriously not see the irony of this post? you posted within 5 minutes of the thread being open to call anyone who thinks dumb stuff is going on here racist and imply lady ambien is racist too. you are not one of the reasonable people lol
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Jan 12, 2017 21:09
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The ideology eater posted:Okay I guess I'll spell it out then. You're getting real upset about people not engaging with unreasonable people while wanting to do the same thing yourself. the difference is i dont read or post in d&d (besides this one specific thread which i am posting in as the qcs thread is temp closed) so i dont have to apply these standards for myself. come to gbs if you want to mock idiots and not engage with them (its fun!), the debate and discussion forum should be a place for debate and discussion
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Jan 12, 2017 21:14
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angerbeet posted:This seems like it would have gone over better if you did it in the mod forum this keeps being brought up by mods/former mods but isnt it better for a large and diverse group of users from the forums to discuss the climate most appropriate for the forums rather than have it arbitrarily be decided upon by mods
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Jan 12, 2017 21:20
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Hogge Wild posted:
 edit: found by googling "tumblr style gifs" lol
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Forgall posted:Racists have the rest of the internet all to themselves, idk, maybe we could have one forum without them? 
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Jan 12, 2017 21:24
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Sid Vicious posted:that's cultural appropriation my friend
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Jan 12, 2017 21:28
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Noyemi K posted:if it makes you feel better, I have been trying to affect your same sentiment but ANIME AV its actually healthy and good to discriminate against anime av having filth
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Jan 12, 2017 21:31
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Sid Vicious posted:im white im filth
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Jan 12, 2017 21:34
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Chelb posted:Look man I get ya. But I think in lots of these cases it also comes down to the history some of these posters have of derailing arguments, being hateful towards other groups, etc. Moderating doesn't happen in a vacuum, there's context behind it. Look at someone like The Insect Court. His whole gimmick is to walk into a thread and pretend he's having a reasonable convo without actually addressing anybody, and he's been probated multiple dozens of times for it. 
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Segmentation Fault posted:noyemi hasnt watched an anime since she moved in with me in september 
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Jan 12, 2017 21:41
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okay you guys convinced me using random gifs instead of reading posts is fun
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Jan 12, 2017 21:42
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Chelb posted:Tell us more, about black people engaging in racial conflict, thread for cool dudes that think only the most explicit of slurs are verboten 
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Control Volume posted:I'm extremely in favor of political debate taking place entirely in the form of interpretive gif posting 
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spit on my clit posted:They Live but its about a D&D regular seeing how racist it actually is 
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