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Train to Busan is very highly rated and was well received by audiences, but I absolutely hated it. The characters were so dumb in this just like mostly every other zombie movie and I think the character development wasn't as great as people make it out to be.
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zenintrude posted:Everything by Bong Joon-ho is trash. Are you responding to the train to busan guy cause Bong Joon Ho had nothing to do with that one
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DeimosRising posted:Are you responding to the train to busan guy cause Bong Joon Ho had nothing to do with that one No, he just jogged my memory
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I don't hate Arrival but I think it's way overrated. There's something just too neat and sterile about it, with a very clearly demarcated Emotional Journey for the protagonist- nothing feels like it's just happening for organic reasons. The visual style is so drat clean, and I honestly get the feeling the filmmakers would have made this in black and white except for the fact that it's hard to get black and white movies financed because younger folks won't watch 'em, so instead they just dial down all the colors except for a very pale green. I think the problem is when you make an "intellectual" sci-fi movie like this, which is very clearly meant to evoke thoughts of 2001, Solaris, etc.- you really gotta bring more to the table than this. Those movies were the product of real, mad, messy vision- this is a very neat little thesis.
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Maxwell Lord posted:I don't hate Arrival but I think it's way overrated.  I think I said it in the Unpopular Opinions thread, but my problem with it was that the climax/resolution felt right out of a Doctor Who episode or a Bill and Ted gag, with the main character knowing what to do because they'll get through this and be able to tell themselves what to do to get through this. It's just gussied up a bit.
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I can see the thematic resemblance between Arrival and 2001, but visually, they're about as different as two films in the same genre can be.
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Is this one of those troll threads that just becomes a real thread?
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Lurdiak posted:Is this one of those troll threads that just becomes a real thread? Death of the thread author.
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Lurdiak posted:Is this one of those troll threads that just becomes a real thread? People....with different opinions........trolling me?!?!
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There's no universally beloved film that I "hate", but some movies that were acclaimed that I thought ranged from mediocre to bad are: The Big Lebowski, Fight Club, Metropolis, and The Godfather.
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GeekyManatee posted:There's no universally beloved film that I "hate", but some movies that were acclaimed that I thought ranged from mediocre to bad are: The Big Lebowski, Fight Club, Metropolis, and The Godfather. Really, Fight Club is the kind of movie that completely blows your mind when you're about 15 years old, but as you get older you see how shallow it actually is in most places. For most people it was basically babbies' first counterculture, and that positive impression stuck with them.
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Fight Club is carried by its gritty aesthetic more than its actual plot in a lot of places. So many of its scenes have this really visceral anger that the cinematography projects so well that it pulls you in more than the somewhat threadbare story.
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The best thing about Fight Club is how well it maintains the loopy, surreal, pulpy atmosphere of Palahniuk's writing.
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Perestroika posted:Really, Fight Club is the kind of movie that completely blows your mind when you're about 15 years old, but as you get older you see how shallow it actually is in most places. For most people it was basically babbies' first counterculture, and that positive impression stuck with them. I think Fight Club itself holds up fine, but so many of its fans were insufferable douchebags. Many people latched on to Tyler's complaints about the hollowness of corporate life and missed that he was the villain of the piece. He promised a revolution, but all he did was give them something else to blindly follow. A story about how disaffected white men turn to a demagogue who promises to free them from being slaves to "the elite" is pretty relevant in 2017's United States.
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Basically the entire Tarantino catalogue, especially the Kill Bill movies. I've seen technically worse movies, but I really detest those.
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Fight Club obviously knows how horrible and dumb Tyler is. Like that scene where ultimate pretty boy Brad Pitt scoffs at a ad featuring a half-naked male model by saying "Is that what a real man looks like?" and I'm pretty sure the model is actually Pitt. It's so obviously a comedy film.
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Fight Club is weird because it's a film that is held up as the ultimate "dumb teenagers love this movie" while being very clearly and specifically about being in your late 20s and early 30s.
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Teenagers want to be adults real bad. Until they actually are.
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The VVItch is dreadfully boring and not scary. "It's atmospheric" isn't a rebuttal because nothing happens. Horror movies don't need jump scares but if they aren't scary they can at least be unintentionally comedic.
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Shneak posted:The VVItch is dreadfully boring and not scary. "It's atmospheric" isn't a rebuttal because nothing happens. Horror movies don't need jump scares but if they aren't scary they can at least be unintentionally comedic. I think you'll find that several people dying does in fact qualify as things happening.
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I know not everyone loves the works of Wes Anderson, but many goons do as well a few friends of mine. I find his films dreadfully boring and irritatingly quirky. The only one I could say that I enjoyed at all was Grand Budapest Hotel and that was mostly due to Ralph Fiennes killing it. His movies seem mostly populated by horrifically depressed people who mope about and occasionally spout something droll and then out of nowhere do something bizarre and wacky. There is usually a completely talentless actor(or actors) who stick out like a sore thumb. One example is the main bellboy(star?) of Grand Budapest Hotel and his baker girlfriend. They act like they are in a middle school play and are droning their lines for the first time with no attempt at emotion. It almost seems like that is a feature that Anderson purposefully puts into his movies. Some people seem to be just in the movie as a living gimmick. Some prominent extra with a ridiculous outfit or singing Bowie in Portuguese that no one mentions. I can't stand Jason Schwartzman and generally don't find the Wilson brothers compelling. Bill Murray seems to think this is the type of movie that will get him an Oscar and he seems to try be the least funny he can be. I haven't seen it in like 15 years or more, but I hate Brazil. The main character is so grating and whiny that he ruins anything of worth in the movie for me. Deniro was trying to be funny and that usually backfires. It had so many running gags about how inept the evil dystopian bureaucracy was that it seemed like beating a dead horse. I think it was supposed to be horrific and I was supposed to feel bad for certain characters, but I was unmoved. While I enjoyed Dr. Strangelove and to a lesser extent A Clockwork Orange, I think Kubrick is overrated. Jack Nicholson was amazing in The Shining but everything else was subpar. The book was one of my childhood favorites. So many actors in his movies seem like they are sleepwalking(due to the insane amount of takes Kubrick wanted?). I greatly enjoyed The VVitch though. I thought it was terrifying.
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I haven't enjoyed any of the Stanley Kubrick movies i've seen, The Shining and 2001 were alright, I'm glad I watched them even if I didn't have a good time with them. Clockwerk and Strangeglove I turned off through boredom.
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My current theory is that the Venn diagram of people who dislike Kubrick and people who've never seen Paths of Glory is a circle.
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Anyone who's read the horror thread knows I hate pretty much every big horror movie from the 2000s. The Ring, the Grudge, Saw, Paranormal Activity... It's all poo poo. Color-correcting your boring, shittily written movie to pale blue doesn't make it scarier. And I really don't care for found footage, either. I mean don't get me wrong, there are plenty of movies from those years that are good, but the mainstream popular ones are all either awful and uninteresting or just remakes that are half as good as the original material. Horror's been doing better in the last 6 or so years, despite some real duds, so I'm glad people have been moving away from really dull J-horror adaptations and lovely blue-tinted torture porn. Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Feb 13, 2017 |
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Samuel Clemens posted:My current theory is that the Venn diagram of people who dislike Kubrick and people who've never seen Paths of Glory is a circle. It was 'The Killing' that turned me around on him. For some reason, his much more distinctive works, that he clearly had much more free reign on, only made sense to me when I saw that he could direct the hell out of a standard genre pic. Their eccentrices were much more acceptable. He could make a really good 'normal' film, he just had no interest in doing that.
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I can't stand Anchorman. I saw it in the theater with my best friend and didn't laugh once while everyone else was cracking up like, non-stop. People seem baffled I can't stand it.
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LadyPictureShow posted:I can't stand Anchorman. I saw it in the theater with my best friend and didn't laugh once while everyone else was cracking up like, non-stop. People seem baffled I can't stand it. I don't understand the appeal of Will Ferrell. All he does is yell.
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Samuel Clemens posted:My current theory is that the Venn diagram of people who dislike Kubrick and people who've never seen Paths of Glory is a circle. You can hate all of Kubrick's other works, but if you don't like The Killing or Paths of Glory, you just have bad movie taste. I've been meaning to marathon all of Kubrick's films in order sometime since I finally got the last few I didn't have on Blu-Ray.
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Dr Strangelove is so depressing but great. Kubrick just admitting man will always be fighting as long as there is a rock to fight with.
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got any sevens posted:Dr Strangelove is so depressing but great. Kubrick just admitting man will always be fighting as long as there is a rock to fight with. That said, you're still gonna have to answer to the Coca-Cola company! 
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sean10mm posted:That said, you're still gonna have to answer to the Coca-Cola company! There would be much time and little to do...
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Lurdiak posted:Anyone who's read the horror thread knows I hate pretty much every big horror movie from the 2000s. The Ring, the Grudge, Saw, Paranormal Activity... It's all poo poo. Color-correcting your boring, shittily written movie to pale blue doesn't make it scarier. And I really don't care for found footage, either. Agreed. I'm not into the original or remake J-horror films from this period. Except Audition, which is awesome. Tangentially, have you seen The Descent? (Not Japanese. English/American, I believe.) It wasn't that big, but was a 2005 horror film that was pretty goddamn great. Since we're talking about Kubrick, my answer to the thread is his Soviet counterpart. Andrei Tarkovsky's films are like a morphine coma, except I still feel pain. The only one I liked was Ivan's Childhood. I merely tolerated Solaris. The rest that I've seen have been miserable ordeals...plodding, endless endurance runs that should be studied by physicists to figure out how a 120-minute film lasts 75 years. The Mirror, Andrei Rublev, Nostalgia...the worst was Stalker. I am probably still watching Stalker. It's insane that a premise as cool as that one is so punishingly boring. Someone described Aleksandr Sokurov as "Tarkovsky-like," and I'm glad I overcame my bias to see Russian Ark and Moloch, which were both super interesting. I am not glad I did the same for Bela Tarr. Who also makes movies with fewer cuts than an uncircumcised penis and runtimes dwarfing international flight times.
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Xealot posted:I am not glad I did the same for Bela Tarr. Who also makes movies with fewer cuts than an uncircumcised penis and runtimes dwarfing international flight times. *bowtie spins* wowza! get this guy an hbo special!
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Magic Hate Ball posted:*bowtie spins* wowza! get this guy an hbo special! Thanks. I'll be live at the sidewalk outside the Comedy Cellar. The last part is kind of literal, though. Bela Tarr has movies that run for 7 and a half hours. How is that supposed to be exhibited? Xealot fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Russian Ark is one of my all-time favorites. What happens when you watch a 90 minute film composed from a single shot is that you almost become a participant because it's so immediate. Sort of like seeing a play, except the camera allows it to explore. It's almost like a dream.
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Egbert Souse posted:Russian Ark is one of my all-time favorites. What happens when you watch a 90 minute film composed from a single shot is that you almost become a participant because it's so immediate. Sort of like seeing a play, except the camera allows it to explore. It's almost like a dream. That's what I liked about it, as well. You accept the camera's POV so deeply, when it does surreal things with the space, you accept those, too. You'll swing from a gallery space circa now to a hunkered soldier in WW2, and somehow it "fits" with the logic of the experience. Like a dream, definitely. Have you seen The Hourglass Sanatorium? It's a Polish film by Wojchiech Has that achieves something similar. I mean, not a continuous steadicam shot, clearly. But this totally surreal, dreamlike quality that takes you through these disconnected vignettes in what's seemingly connected space.
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Hungarian cinema in general is paced like continental drift. The Hungarians make the Russians look like they're Guy Ritchie.
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