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Neutral Zone Trap
Nov 6, 2011

It's in the garbage. Where it belongs.

I somehow beat the Infernal with Xander, Camus, Cecilia and Olwen. I had Xander go to the left to bait and Camus go up just where the green mage couldn't reach. Then the enemy team became split enough to kite and kill off.

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Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Chat got your tongue?


If I have Reinhardt is Camus necessary? Also who are good options besides the two there and Xander? I have Titania, Elise, Ursula, Olwen, and 4* Cecilia (which I can rank up if i use Reinhardt in lieu of Camus)

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Senerio posted:

If I have Reinhardt is Camus necessary? Also who are good options besides the two there and Xander? I have Titania, Elise, Ursula, Olwen, and 4* Cecilia (which I can rank up if i use Reinhardt in lieu of Camus)

What would you need Camus for if you have a Reinhardt?

Philip Rivers
Mar 15, 2010



Clarisse has a good stat spread for a quad build I think I'm gonna make that my next big dumb project

Actually jk lol I have a +Atk Setsuna if I decide I wanna do that PEACE

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009


I have 21k feathers due to the Lunatic clear and a bunch of heros getting hero merit feathers but don't really need anything, should I just bank them or keep promoting Ninos and Reinhardts to merge

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Philip Rivers posted:

Clarisse has a good stat spread for a quad build I think I'm gonna make that my next big dumb project

Actually jk lol I have a +Atk Setsuna if I decide I wanna do that PEACE

34 speed is pretty low for quadding

Murderion
Oct 4, 2009

Its always FUN TIME


Rein knocks Camus into the fourth slot, so he's there for quests and GHBs but not for arena when there's another bonus unit on.

Philip Rivers
Mar 15, 2010



Andrast posted:

34 speed is pretty low for quadding

Yeah and I thought Setsuna's attack was worse than it is but my +Atk/-Res one would have the same attack at cap with 3 more speed.

Still not great compared to BCordelia's insane spread but I dunno it's probably funny

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Philip Rivers posted:

Yeah and I thought Setsuna's attack was worse than it is but my +Atk/-Res one would have the same attack at cap with 3 more speed.

Still not great compared to BCordelia's insane spread but I dunno it's probably funny

34 vs 37 speed is a massive difference when it comes to doubling.

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Chat got your tongue?


So who should my third be, with Xander and Rein, then? Cecilia Titania or Elise I'm thinking. Elise is already 5* level 36 and has Wrathful Staff (I was building her for the gauntlet), Titania is already 5* (I have two, neutral and -HP +Res) and Cecilia is 4* (Spd+/Def-). I have the feathers to make her 5*.

Murderion
Oct 4, 2009

Its always FUN TIME


Senerio posted:

So who should my third be, with Xander and Rein, then? Cecilia Titania or Elise I'm thinking. Elise is already 5* level 36 and has Wrathful Staff (I was building her for the gauntlet), Titania is already 5* (I have two, neutral and -HP +Res) and Cecilia is 4* (Spd+/Def-). I have the feathers to make her 5*.

Elise is your best bet as-is, I'd say. Cecilia needs a +atk iv to shine, and even then doesn't need to be promoted to 5*, since you can make her a 4*+lots with little difficulty. Your Titanias can do plenty of work, but probably need a rebuild; neither's got a good iv, but neither's bad so

Fritzler
Sep 5, 2007

"No" means "No"

Beat Infernal with Xander/Camus/Elise/Olivia. Elise with Rehabilitate is pretty nice in some of these longer battles, Xander went to 1 hp eventually through Fury and Elise was able to completely heal him up. Dope.

Gensuki
Sep 2, 2011


Senerio posted:

So who should my third be, with Xander and Rein, then? Cecilia Titania or Elise I'm thinking. Elise is already 5* level 36 and has Wrathful Staff (I was building her for the gauntlet), Titania is already 5* (I have two, neutral and -HP +Res) and Cecilia is 4* (Spd+/Def-). I have the feathers to make her 5*.

Try out the arena a little bit, and see how common Reinharts are in your tier. Titania will never lose to any Reinhart Variant, unless she's already weakened from something else. Of the two Titanias, I would suggest the -HP/+Res version, since you'd mainly be using her as a counter to him...

If you see a Rein in at least 1/3, I'd suggest using Titania.

That said, if he is less common than that in your tier, I would suggest Cecilia. Her Nature there is basically perfect, and she is much better at removing other green units than Titania. SHe's also a more versatile unit, and honestly probably worth the feathers just to have her. Also also, she's a Hero Battle unit, which I think means she is more common as an Arena bonus unit. I think one slot always goes to a starting hero (Anna, Alphonse, Shareena), Two slots always go to Hero Battle heroes (Cecilia, Olivia, Hana etc.), two slots go to "random" units One slot goes to the GHB of the season (I think for the next season, they'll have Legon and Clarisse, otherwise they'll likely not have a GHB for a while), and four spots to "Big Ticket" Banner units.

Murderion
Oct 4, 2009

Its always FUN TIME


P. sure Reinhardt can't beat Cecilia without buffs, since her res is only a few points behind Julia.

Fritzler
Sep 5, 2007

"No" means "No"

Murderion posted:

P. sure Reinhardt can't beat Cecilia without buffs, since her res is only a few points behind Julia.
My tri adept Raven Cecilia shrugs off and kills every Reinhardt. If worried about Reinhardt she is a very good answer.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Fritzler posted:

My tri adept Raven Cecilia shrugs off and kills every Reinhardt. If worried about Reinhardt she is a very good answer.

Any green unit with triangle adept will shrug off Rein

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


+ATK Rein with a Hone cavalry will kill a -HP or -RES Cecilia without TA though

Retcon
Jun 23, 2010


Do we know for sure that the summer banner is going up on Friday, or do people just assume it will because that's when the New Mystery banner ends?

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

I'll fight... I will!


Retcon posted:

Do we know for sure that the summer banner is going up on Friday, or do people just assume it will because that's when the New Mystery banner ends?

The latter. I would be astonished if it's coming later since they were the only new characters datamined

Retcon
Jun 23, 2010


cheetah7071 posted:

The latter. I would be astonished if it's coming later since they were the only new characters datamined
That makes sense, everyone seemed so certain that it would drop on Friday that I was starting to wonder if they had already announced it.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

I'll fight... I will!


I should be able to clear infernal with close to the same strategy that worked for lunatic if I can find a pre-pull setup that:

-doesn't get xander panic ployed
-lets both nowi and cordelia rally xander
-lets julia break the wall
-gets cordelia close enough she can attack the ninja on turn two
-lets xander move in to the defensive terrain turn one

You don't have very much space to maneuver and I wasted all my stamina figuring out exactly what conditions I needed to satisfy but it should be doable

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

I can't think of a single thing left to address that could possi8ly 8e of interest to anyone.


clarisse was going to become another trash pile hero for me, but her voice is too great for me not to 5*

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

I'll fight... I will!


I did it

My strategy was overkill enough for lunatic that once I found a way to set up without getting ployed I could just duplicate it and beat infernal

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Chat got your tongue?


Glad you could avoid the ploy. I'm not gonna bother with Infernal yet. Maybe when it comes around again.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

I can't think of a single thing left to address that could possi8ly 8e of interest to anyone.


Senerio posted:

Glad you could avoid the ploy. I'm not gonna bother with Infernal yet. Maybe when it comes around again.

I wouldn't fret too much. Because there are no reinforcements tied to unit HP, I anticipate a F2P victory video will be out shortly.

e: where substitution is possible and you can get by without the exact stats and skills

Clawtopsy fucked around with this message at Jun 28, 2017 around 20:37

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

I'll fight... I will!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-5WjN-f99A

infernal with 4* free units

My strat, which should be doable for most people who have been playing for a while:

Buff Xander's attack and defense. Give him swordbreaker (rank 1 should be fine). Have him move onto the defensive terrain and attack the sword. Everything attacks Xander, sword cav and green mage die. Retreat Xander, have your ranged nukes clean up the ninja and Clarisse. Blue mage suicides into said ranged attackers, then you kill the sword infantry however.

Starsnostars
Jan 17, 2009

The Master of Magnetism


I found this harder than Legion Infernal but I got there in the end. Xander and RobinM were the key players for me with a Ninian dancing them around, bride Cordelia was there too but I'm not sure if she really did much compared to everyone else.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

I can't think of a single thing left to address that could possi8ly 8e of interest to anyone.


This one was far easier than Legion Infernal for me. Xander is a real workhorse. I think I functionally three-manned it, as Camus hung back for fear of distracting people from committing suicide by Siegfried.

THE FUCKING MOON
Jan 19, 2008

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I'm thinking they might have gone a bit overboard allowing the score bonus to go up to 7.5x, It looks like Clairine might actually win on account of all those crazy bonuses

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

I can't think of a single thing left to address that could possi8ly 8e of interest to anyone.


THE loving MOON posted:

I'm thinking they might have gone a bit overboard allowing the score bonus to go up to 7.5x, It looks like Clairine might actually win on account of all those crazy bonuses

should've gone with the drills

THE FUCKING MOON
Jan 19, 2008

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Clawtopsy posted:

should've gone with the drills

I probably will if Priscilla loses in round one, I'm actually kind of surprised it's this close.

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



THE loving MOON posted:

I'm thinking they might have gone a bit overboard allowing the score bonus to go up to 7.5x, It looks like Clairine might actually win on account of all those crazy bonuses

I got a 6.1 multiplier over on Sakura at some point

My strategy for Lunatic Clarisse involved a Fortify Dragons Tiki tanking everything but it turns out she can't tank both the ninja and Clarisse if both of them can trigger their specials on Infernal so I need to do something else

Elyv fucked around with this message at Jun 28, 2017 around 21:59

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

I can't think of a single thing left to address that could possi8ly 8e of interest to anyone.


might i suggest xander? hes been decapitating enemies and sisters since 2015

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!


I have Reindhart, how exactly is he supposed to "destroy" the GHB?

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



Clawtopsy posted:

might i suggest xander? hes been decapitating enemies and sisters since 2015

but I have other things I want to spend 20k feathers on

By the way, am I crazy or did we not get a Battling Clarisse banner? Are those getting phased out?

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

I'll fight... I will!


Elyv posted:

but I have other things I want to spend 20k feathers on

By the way, am I crazy or did we not get a Battling Clarisse banner? Are those getting phased out?

I assume the skill-based banners are replacing them as filler banners for the foreseeable future.

Murderion
Oct 4, 2009

Its always FUN TIME


Tae posted:

I have Reindhart, how exactly is he supposed to "destroy" the GHB?

He probably needs a 3 turn special, but for me he took out the swordsman and the blue mage; he needed help from Olivia in the form of hone atk and Draconic Aura triggering to take out the wizard. Clarisse didn't go for him even though he was in range for some reason

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Trihugger
Jun 28, 2008


THE loving MOON posted:

I'm thinking they might have gone a bit overboard allowing the score bonus to go up to 7.5x, It looks like Clairine might actually win on account of all those crazy bonuses

There isn't any point to having a bonus system if the bonus isn't big enough for the losing side to have a legitimate chance of winning. People were upset that there were no upsets.

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