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so this is a dumb thought i had when struggling with how to write the middle of the story. typical structures seem more focused on the pacing more than the reasoning which made it hard for me to think about like, what events should be transpiring in the middle, and then this thought came to mind "the middle contextualizes the ending that your beginning set up" - and i think this did a better job in my head of knowing what to trim and what to grow, personally. i dunno. whats a good resource on writing middles
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Feb 24, 2017 22:54
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:People who are ready to go out and create rule-breaking masterpieces probably don't need forum threads to help them out. that or they're in a monkey/typewriter sort of situation if they do manage you could be the monkeys with the typewriters, but why risk it?
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Feb 28, 2017 23:27
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writing is great and fun but it is also miserable and awful
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Mar 6, 2017 20:20
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every deviation from the norm is a risk, friendo
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Mar 7, 2017 14:42
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Okua posted:I've even seen the line go on after the "said"-tag for maximum confusion. sometimes its fun to coopt this style if you're writing something quick that's supposed to feel old tho which is fun even if its probably a bad idea
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Mar 7, 2017 18:02
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anime was right posted:every deviation from the norm is a risk, friendo
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Mar 9, 2017 20:35
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you're all nerds
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Mar 10, 2017 03:41
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showbiz_liz posted:This is a neat guide to the types of cheesy choices that new (or just bad) fiction writers can make. It's on an SF blog but most of it applies to any fiction writing. Examples- i cant wait for my book, free of pet peeves, to never sell bc its still bad
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Mar 10, 2017 20:57
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i do henceforth declare that this is precisely how the common man articulates
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Mar 11, 2017 04:02
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Sitting Here posted:No one wants to know how you articulate you're not my real dad
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Mar 11, 2017 06:12
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also anyone want to trade test reading? around 10k words, first threeish chapters of a book. around early next week. no hard deadline. i dont care what genre your book/story/whatever is.
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Mar 11, 2017 06:33
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this thread is way worse than the old one. fight me if i'm wrong.
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Mar 16, 2017 18:45
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why wont agents respond to my inquires about my high quality boruto (the sequel to naruto, if you're more of a Bleach fan) fanfics
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Mar 17, 2017 02:11
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for real someone post some actual fiction advice that isnt just an insular td circle jerk, i have tried asking actual questions already.
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Mar 17, 2017 02:27
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anime was right posted:so this is a dumb thought i had when struggling with how to write the middle of the story. anime was right posted:that or they're in a monkey/typewriter sort of situation if they do manage i asked these too dude but no one responds to the actual questions and instead the insular trash. how about this, how do people feel about information density? is it cool to thrust people into buzzword city so long as it makes sense as you continue to read? do you think its better to introduce elements slowly at the cost of lengthening your pace? anime was right fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Mar 17, 2017 |
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Mar 17, 2017 02:58
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them some good posts, im gonna mull over those and think about that stuff. thanks yall.
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Mar 17, 2017 09:06
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actually getting published, now thats some real fiction
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May 12, 2017 04:29
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for real how the gently caress do i get test reading done aaaaaaaaaaa
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May 15, 2017 18:11
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General Battuta posted:My book's finally going great guys, closing in on the end my goal is to one day have your problems. ...i should start drinking, shouldn't i?
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May 17, 2017 04:26
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General Battuta posted:Man it ain't like that. im gonna climb the rungs until i die. if i can see a lot of cool poo poo all high up there then it will have been worth it, you know?
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May 17, 2017 04:47
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crabrock posted:imo reading how to write is dumb. just read books/stories instead. it'll do you better in the long run. gently caress how somebody else thinks i should write. I GONNA DO ME that stuff is good for problem solving but writing strictly using a heros journey template or w/e is a recipe for disaster if you dont know why you're doing stuff in the first place.
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May 31, 2017 15:00
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give a good reason for the characters to not go to the cops. like a legitimate character reason. thats the best way. otherwise handwave it in the most effortless way possible. make your protags nwa, is what im saying.
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Jun 1, 2017 21:03
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Sitting Here posted:I know Anime Was Right was posting looking for some kind of exchange, don't know if the lengths of the pieces match up, though. If he sees this maybe you guys can swap? around 70k words, ya fantasy, specifically
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Jun 14, 2017 21:37
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Dr. Kloctopussy posted:Lol if you have another one in like a year I'll trade with you good news! i'm pretty close to done with another one
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Jun 15, 2017 00:47
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Dr. Kloctopussy posted:You might want to go check the date on a newspaper, because if you're finding mostly Elves and Dragons on your fantasy shelves you may have traveled 20 years into the past. my expectation is now excel spreadsheets about the magic system
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Jun 21, 2017 18:30
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what makes your book interesting and also different from every book in that market
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Jul 21, 2017 08:37
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After The War posted:I hope my gf believes me when I say that my browser history is now full of "babycenter.com" visits because I was trying to come up with accurate names from the 1930s. This could get awkward. you could like, show her your book, dude
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Jul 23, 2017 01:42
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You can also tell your Epic Origin Story in like 10 paragraphs interspersed throughout the entire narrative
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Jul 24, 2017 19:33
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you can inform the past with present actions. put them in a situation where they have to make a choice, then use the moments of what shaped them as a person inform that choice. bad example: if they are an orphan without a stable parental figure, then they may be ambivalent towards authority. put them in a situation where they are being bossed around by an authority figure. because of their past, they refuse to listen even if it's the right thing to do. they chose not to listen to the authority figure. during that choice, you can express how their oprhan-ness turned into that decision. you've done something interesting that moves the plot forward (they made a choice that puts them closer to the ending) while at the same time, telling the reader who they are.
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Jul 24, 2017 21:39
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if its not interesting dont tell it if its necessary to tell it, make it as interesting as possible and cut out the least interesting parts if its necessary to tell it and you cant make it interesting, throw it out and write a completely different book
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Jul 24, 2017 23:41
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Hungry posted:Anybody got any favourite/preferred outlining methods? i mean this really depends on the person and you kinda have to figure out what methods work for you this lecture might be useful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI2UsHU4Htk in general, figure out your ending asap so you know where you're going to land. if you have to change your ending after figuring out your characters, thats ok, but don't start filling out lesser details until you know your ending. after you have your beginning concept and ending, fill in the middle from there. my method is pretty in the middle and may be useful for you: figure out core hook or interesting things you want to do figure out character motivations (these can change, but i wouldn't really gently caress around with major protagonist motivations once you have something solid that ties into the ending) figure out ending fill in a few huge chunks from there (separate your book into 4ish pieces) state your goals for each chunk; for example, mention "three instances of character growth towards this direction" in chunk 3 so the finale feels like the character has made a meaningful change. figure out a theme; this is sort of your problem solving device, try and tie it to as many characters as possible. is a scene not accomplishing much but necessary for some reason? relate it to a theme. once i have that, i just start writing and problem solve anything that sucks from there. for each scene, before i write i take at least two goals from the chunk pile and make a conscious effort to include them in the scene i write. anime was right fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Jul 27, 2017 |
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Jul 27, 2017 20:19
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also dont forget there are pretty good odds that no matter what method you use you're just going to suck at writing long stories until you do it a few times and learn from your mistakes part of writing a few books isnt just to get a lot of words on the page, its to learn your methods and how to plan better, course correct, and know what methods work best for you.
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Aug 11, 2017 18:57
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yea
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Aug 20, 2017 23:27
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MockingQuantum posted:So on the subject of finishing, I've been chugging away at a book, I'm about 35k words into it, and it turns out I'm some horrible amalgamation when it comes to plotting vs discovery. It's taken me about this long to figure out what/who the book is really about, and the 35k words I've written so far don't feel like they're at all going in the right direction. finish it, learn what you hosed up, apply it to a new book. you need to figure out how to land the lane, not just get it in the air.
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Aug 21, 2017 17:16
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protagonist name and the x of (the) y
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Aug 28, 2017 21:16
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amulet of air: ascension; a novel by a novelist, part 1 in an epic fantasy series
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Aug 28, 2017 22:55
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"dragons are a myth" *twenty two chapters later* "this is a flying lizard that shoots fire... excuse me, heat energy from its mouth... its called a fire terror lizard god and it is absolutely NOT a dragon. dragons are a myth"
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Aug 29, 2017 14:20
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crabrock posted:Sorry guys, that list was 45 years in the making and I don't have any more fantasy titles to share. i got one A Published Author, by Crab Rock
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Aug 29, 2017 16:58
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ketchup vs catsup posted:Yes, please describe in detail the generic style that straddles mystery, science fiction, fantasy, romance, and any other genres included in genre fiction. its got nouns and verbs hosed up, imo
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Aug 30, 2017 18:42
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