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boop the snoot posted:GGG-Canelo coming May 5th. I kind of hope this falls through. Just another robbery for GGG on a Mexican holiday. Have the fight 4th of July or Dec 16th to even things up ffs. I know Mexicans love boxing and they love Canelo, but I want a pure fight between two of the very best in their weight. Some of the best fighters I've ever seen have been Mexican, but if Canelo is such hot poo poo he should be able to do it on the 4th or some other neutral holiday.
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So you think it’s more likely to be fixed for canelo if it’s on may fifth??
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Feb 3, 2018 03:27
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holy poo poo, that was a hell of a comeback and a KO by Mattice
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mike- posted:So you think it’s more likely to be fixed for canelo if it’s on may fifth?? Given that boxing never fails to demonstrate how fundamentally idiotic and corrupt it is, I don't see why this is such a ridiculous thing to think. What better proof than the first fight do you need that literally anything can happen in boxing regardless of objective reality? doctor thodt fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Feb 3, 2018 |
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doctor thodt posted:Given that boxing never fails to demonstrate how fundamentally idiotic and corrupt it is, I don't see why this is such a ridiculous thing to think. What better proof than the first fight do you need that literally anything can happen in boxing regardless of objective reality? I think he was more arguing that there's no reason to suspect that there's a greater chance of their being foul play (or more likely just bad/biased scoring) because it's on Cinco De Mayo rather than another day. Which I honestly don't think is even necessary. Maybe Triple g has one last great night in him but I just have a feeling that he's past it and Canelo, having gone the 12 rounds already, is going to make and be able to execute the gameplan and actually pull off a legit win.
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Care Bear Stairs posted:holy poo poo, that was a hell of a comeback and a KO by Mattice Yeah, I was sitting back sipping some whiskey sours, waiting on a unanimous decision when bam, Mattice turned it into something eventful.
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The SituAsian posted:I think he was more arguing that there's no reason to suspect that there's a greater chance of their being foul play (or more likely just bad/biased scoring) because it's on Cinco De Mayo rather than another day. Cinco de Mayo = Canelo-friendly crowd = potential for judges to be influenced by the energy in the arena. Boxing.
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Feb 3, 2018 05:53
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Younan-Ellis wasnt a good fight, but it was interesting. I think it was a draw E: split draw, not surprised Duke Pukem fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Feb 3, 2018 |
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Feb 3, 2018 06:18
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Care Bear Stairs posted:Younan-Ellis wasnt a good fight, but it was interesting. I think it was a draw Good decision there. Liked Ellis on the back half but it wasn't enough to swing it.
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doctor thodt posted:Cinco de Mayo = Canelo-friendly crowd = potential for judges to be influenced by the energy in the arena. Boxing. Canelo fights twice a year, once on cinco de mayo and once on mexican independence day I don't really think thats going to influence anything more than its already going to be influenced.
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Feb 3, 2018 16:53
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WBSS will be streamed on youtube today Main event should be good
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Canelo fights twice a year, once on cinco de mayo and once on mexican independence day I mean, that's kinda my point. Don't tell me that's unintentional or can't influence decisions in both tangible and intangible ways. Anyway, I'm glad they're fighting again, but I do see GGG on the decline and wonder whether he's got enough killer instinct in him for one last KO. I wouldn't be sad to see him retire if he ends this fight early. Any time I think about Sergio's last couple of fights after JCC Jr, I get pretty sad.
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:WBSS will be streamed on youtube today Holy poo poo what is this?? I've got it on now, it's an undercard. This is awesome! Edit: these guys are exhausted. Edit2: Not bad infighting in the final round, I can only imagine how many punches those guys threw if that's how they were in round 10. Jack B Nimble fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Feb 3, 2018 |
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doctor thodt posted:I mean, that's kinda my point. Don't tell me that's unintentional It is intentional, because those are the two biggest days for boxing and you get the most ppv money from fighting on those days. It's not about tapping into some magic mexican spirit where judges give you lopsided scores because it's a mexican holiday rather than the regular reasons of favouring the A side fighter or getting a fat check Anyway Gassiev - Dorticos should be on around 5 - Really good cruiser unification fight, the winner will take on Usyk for undisputed
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About to start, I know I'm the only person interested in it, but the main event has a different stream than the undercard for some byzantine reason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC_3-1Hcc-Y If you're a boxing fan though do yourself a favour and watch this
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:About to start, I know I'm the only person interested in it, but the main event has a different stream than the undercard for some byzantine reason I'm only here for ring announcer David Diamante 
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The production level on the WBSS is so over the top, everything is so dramatic and I love it
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:The production level on the WBSS is so over the top, everything is so dramatic and I love it It's amazing, I can only assume Kalle Sauerland is planning to OD on cocaine soon and not pick up the bill for any of it
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Monday Bandele posted:It's amazing, I can only assume Kalle Sauerland is planning to OD on cocaine soon and not pick up the bill for any of it Nah, Tricky Dick Schafer just got it all from the PBC production cost firesale.
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Feb 3, 2018 23:20
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Also Kalle has probably done so much coke in his life he wouldn't die from an overdose, it would just give him superpowers or something. Interesting fight so far. Dorticos up 2-0 imo
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Feb 3, 2018 23:27
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drat only watched since the seventh and it's great action.
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Feb 3, 2018 23:55
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Dorticos is a bizarro Cuban, poo poo technically but a granite chin
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Feb 3, 2018 23:59
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if dorticos had anything other than a thudding foreman one two he might have the chin and the stamina to put gassiev out. as it stands though, nah.
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what a fight though
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Wild fight
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Fight was effectively over at the point of the first knockdown but love me a good through the ropes ko I do.
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Feb 4, 2018 00:07
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Should have been stopped after the second knockdown, Dorticos didn't deserve an embarrassing KO like that
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Feb 4, 2018 00:10
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The last punch didn't even land really but it clipped the top of Dorticos's head and he had nothing at all left. Still think Usyk has to be the favorite to win though. Gassiev didn't really come on until Dorticos had gassed and Usyk probably has the skills to keep him at bay.
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Feb 4, 2018 00:11
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Gassiev has the most magical weapon you can have in your boxing arsenal: Adaptability That fight started very close, with Dorticos getting off better in exchanges and having the chin and stamina to get last a long time, but Gassiev adapted and Dorticos couldn't. Dort has always made his bones off the 1-2, and has the power to make that work. He's a good boxer, but when you a limited arsenal and your opponent takes it away from you, that's it. We saw a similar story with Rigo actually. Usyk-Gassiev for undisputed will be a hell of a thing.
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Would the winner become the best ever CW? I love Holyfield but I feel his era of cruisers pales in comparison to the current one.
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Would certainly have an excellent argument and one of the best resumes ever, comparisons to Holyfield will be tough while they're still active because of the rose coloured glasses we look at retired fighters with. It depends a little bit on what they do also. If they stick around and keep defending their titles they'll quickly build a legacy. Holyfield moved up after his biggest CW accomplishments, but as a result we don't even really know much he could have continued to dominate the division. Given how well he did against a strong generation of heavyweights though, I think it's fair to say he's the best. I do think this generation of Cruisers is something else though. Now that the heavyweights are all giants, regular big guys actually have a reason to stay in cruiser. The winner of the tournment has a date with Lebedev too, should be a good fight even though Gassiev already beat him. The real question is how Ward would do against these guys.
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Settle down boys. They're arguably not even the best cruiserweights in the last 10 years, and no one stays there for very long
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I'm not convinced David Haye would trounce Gassiev and Usyk
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Feb 5, 2018 03:20
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So much for boxing on free TV as it appears that Crawford-Horn and Manny-(probably) Alvarado is probably going to be on PPV in April. And I'm going to buy it. I'm so so sorry. http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-crawford-horn-double-pay-per-view-bound--124985
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Pac may well have a few good fights left and they're sticking him on a loving undercard, christ, what disrespect
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Counterpoint: Manny getting knocked out by Mike Alvarado would be the greatest thing ever
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