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Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

I'm mostly disturbed at this point by the poster's lack of pattern recognition. How many probes does it take to realize "hmm, maybe I should stop posting about my favorite hell rape game on SA?"

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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Antivehicular posted:

I'm mostly disturbed at this point by the poster's lack of pattern recognition. How many probes does it take to realize "hmm, maybe I should stop posting about my favorite hell rape game on SA?"

Judging by what became of the Visual Novel thread in ADTRW, too many to be counted.

William Henry Hairytaint posted:

The number of people who really want rape to be a thing in videogames is disquieting.

This was on display in a big way when the Exalted kickstater backlash popped off on these forums. More then a few people arguing that you could use any of the standard spells like sleep, charm, dominate etc. to roleplay raping someone in a regular ttrpg so they didn't see the problem with the actual spell "rape person" in Exalted.

pentyne fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Jun 15, 2021

ZombieLenin
Sep 6, 2009

"Democracy for the insignificant minority, democracy for the rich--that is the democracy of capitalist society." VI Lenin


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Ghost Leviathan posted:

Is that Vlad Tepes they're talking about?

This is what I thought, and from a historical perspective makes no sense at all.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Randallteal posted:

The audience for rape porn games existing doesn't bother me as much as how many of them get made compared to other kinds of porn games. I don't think it's actually a video game-specific problem though. Porn with rapey premises like step parent / step child, boss / employee, or landlord / tenant are ubiquitous on sites like Pornhub and Xvideos. I'm more disturbed by that than by wanting to get hosed by a demon or lead a nude barbarian girl into spike traps or whatever. The creepiest games that get posted in here are ones with more realistic settings like the one where you drug and molest tenants in an apartment complex.

i guess the reason why so much rape/incest fantasy porn gets made compared to vanilla is the same as why so many big movies are action flicks compared to mundane slice of life stuff. same thing with games. there's definitely super popular chill games like sims or animal crossing, but the biggest names that print cash are yearly installments of call of duty, asscreed, etc

so yeah, it's just me guessing but it doesn't seem surprising to me that porn would also lean into fantastic/violent direction, considering how every other piece of popular media is

also, super agree on what the creepiest poo poo is lol

Randallteal posted:

Steam opening the doors to porn games could be a great thing for cleaning up the market, but they've really been half assing regulating it.

yeah. i don't think valve is going to clean anything. their standards on accepting adult only (and sometimes non-18+ too) games seem completely arbitrary at this point. most of the hosed up poo poo posted here stays but every now and then something relatively inoffensive just mysteriously gets refused/unlisted, and people tend to only notice when internets get super angry about it lmao

can't believe my digital video game store monopoly is this stupid - probably a light novel title

UwUnabomber
Sep 9, 2012

Pubes dreaded out so hoes call me Chris Barnes. I don't wear a condom at the pig farm.
Jesus Christ Lodin, why?

Gynovore
Jun 17, 2009

Forget your RoboCoX or your StickyCoX or your EvilCoX, MY CoX has Blinking Bewbs!

WHY IS THIS GAME DEAD?!

Antivehicular posted:

I'm mostly disturbed at this point by the poster's lack of pattern recognition. How many probes does it take to realize "hmm, maybe I should stop posting about my favorite hell rape game on SA?"

I'm hoping that he is, in fact, being paid money to shill the game. The only alternative is that he's really, really, REALLY into rape games, which bodes poorly for the women living near him.

Dareon
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

Gynovore posted:

I'm hoping that he is, in fact, being paid money to shill the game. The only alternative is that he's really, really, REALLY into rape games, which bodes poorly for the women living near him.

I'm of the opinion that all these rape games generally serve as relief valves for the people making and playing them, so they're acting out their fantasies in a safe and controlled manner. Still, it's the kind of thing you enjoy quietly in your own home, not attempt to make serious discussions of the artistic merits of Rapelay or whatever.

(Also I have mild disapproval of the games where you are rewarded with porn for losing, and just had the cynical thought that they seem to have informed the design of the latest Tomb Raiders and maybe the continual loving-up of Ethan Winters' hands, but that's not exactly relevant to the discussion at the moment)

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Lust From Beyond is actually pretty good though. It's basically a Hellraiser game.

An insane mind
Aug 11, 2018

Necrothatcher posted:

Lust From Beyond is actually pretty good though. It's basically a Hellraiser game.

I thought it was also less about the Lust and more about the eldricht weirdness beyond the veil and you just happen to get murdered by giant mobile vaginas?

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


pentyne posted:

This was on display in a big way when the Exalted kickstater backlash popped off on these forums. More then a few people arguing that you could use any of the standard spells like sleep, charm, dominate etc. to roleplay raping someone in a regular ttrpg so they didn't see the problem with the actual spell "rape person" in Exalted.

oh boy so that is what happened to exalted over the past 20 years :corsair:

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Necrothatcher posted:

Lust From Beyond is actually pretty good though. It's basically a Hellraiser game.

Yes, let's just keep posting about it, this is sure to go well.

Doc Hawkins posted:

oh boy so that is what happened to exalted over the past 20 years :corsair:

Pretty sure :yikes: would've been the proper emote. I can't even imagine what kind of awful nerds would enjoy playing that.

Agents are GO! fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Jun 16, 2021

Dareon
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

Agents are GO! posted:

Pretty sure :yikes: would've been the proper emote. I can't even imagine what kind of awful nerds would enjoy playing that.

Imagine the scent of a cat's litter box left in a hot car. Now break a bottle of cologne into it and top with a fedora.

An insane mind
Aug 11, 2018

Agents are GO! posted:

Yes, let's just keep posting about it, this is sure to go well.

Pretty sure :yikes: would've been the proper emote. I can't even imagine what kind of awful nerds would enjoy playing that.

I was under the impression that Exalted was so bad that not even the greasiest of nerds would admit to playing it and it was openly mocked and ridiculed. Or is that Fatal?

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

I think that as FATAL, because AFAIK older editions of Exalted, while having more than its share of tiddie-art, weren't... that.

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

What, you don't think Anal Circumference is a worthwhile stat

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Wamdoodle posted:

What, you don't think Anal Circumference is a worthwhile stat

Only if you're gonna stat out Kirk Johnson, but it'd feel weird to use him as a player character

Ashsaber
Oct 24, 2010

Deploying Swordbreakers!
College Slice
FATAL: too many dice so you can somehow create a character with an rear end that can fit children inside it.

Exalted: You are a divine superwarrior who can punchsplode enemies from level 1, and everything is balanced around crazy high power stuff on all sides. There are TRexes that piss cocaine.

FATAL; creepy and wierd. Exalted; over the top stupid and fun (meant to be at least)

An insane mind
Aug 11, 2018

Ashsaber posted:

FATAL: too many dice so you can somehow create a character with an rear end that can fit children inside it.

Exalted: You are a divine superwarrior who can punchsplode enemies from level 1, and everything is balanced around crazy high power stuff on all sides. There are TRexes that piss cocaine.

FATAL; creepy and wierd. Exalted; over the top stupid and fun (meant to be at least)

Ah ok, sorry. For some reason they mix in my head. It's usually with that other weird one as well with all the multi-unverse portals opening into earth? RIFTS?

Zurtilik
Oct 23, 2015

The Biggest Brain in Guardia
Oh no what happened to Exalted. It was just kind of a weird high power TTRPG when my brother picked it up like 15 years ago.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
Old Exalted was "D&D but Anime".

An insane mind posted:

Ah ok, sorry. For some reason they mix in my head. It's usually with that other weird one as well with all the multi-unverse portals opening into earth? RIFTS?

Yeah that's RIFTS, which was basically a ruleset designed to be able to handle any character from any world, so you can have Godzilla fighting Megatron or whatever.

Megadamage is a hell of a thing.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Zaphod42 posted:

Yeah that's RIFTS, which was basically a ruleset designed to be able to handle any character from any world, so you can have Godzilla fighting Megatron or whatever.

Megadamage is a hell of a thing.

Would you really call Rifts "designed", though?

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007
In the same way a 14 year old boy 'designs' the margins of his school notebooks, yeah.

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



The Rifts ruleset was designed to be an AD&D ripoff and then Palladium never stopped using it.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Zurtilik posted:

Oh no what happened to Exalted. It was just kind of a weird high power TTRPG when my brother picked it up like 15 years ago.

New Exalted was darker and edgier to the max in 2013, so basically 31 flavors of rape.
https://www.somethingawful.com/dungeons-and-dragons/burn-down-whitewolf/1/

Coincidentally, the publishing company White Wolf which runs Exalted and World of Darkness is no longer allowed to publish their works without supervisory approval from the company that owns them, Paradox, checking it first to make sure it is acceptable after repeatedly including white supremacist stuff in their books and writing very weird and hosed up things about LGBTQ world issues.

Gynovore
Jun 17, 2009

Forget your RoboCoX or your StickyCoX or your EvilCoX, MY CoX has Blinking Bewbs!

WHY IS THIS GAME DEAD?!

pentyne posted:

New Exalted was darker and edgier to the max in 2013, so basically 31 flavors of rape.
https://www.somethingawful.com/dungeons-and-dragons/burn-down-whitewolf/1/

Holy fuckballs, I knew Exalted was hosed, but I didn't know it was THAT hosed. This makes the D&D Book of Erotic Fantasy look tame and wholesome by comparison.

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer

pentyne posted:

New Exalted was darker and edgier to the max in 2013, so basically 31 flavors of rape.
https://www.somethingawful.com/dungeons-and-dragons/burn-down-whitewolf/1/

Coincidentally, the publishing company White Wolf which runs Exalted and World of Darkness is no longer allowed to publish their works without supervisory approval from the company that owns them, Paradox, checking it first to make sure it is acceptable after repeatedly including white supremacist stuff in their books and writing very weird and hosed up things about LGBTQ world issues.

It's not often that you're so bad that faceless corporate overlords are an upgrade in every way but by god White Wolf found a way.

Lodin
Jul 31, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Skulk Hogan posted:

Jesus Christ Lodin, why?

At this point I think it's mostly because I find it funny how much it irritates the mods. But yeah, I'll stop mentioning it now.

Necrothatcher posted:

Lust From Beyond is actually pretty good though. It's basically a Hellraiser game.
Hell yeah!

An insane mind
Aug 11, 2018

Lodin posted:

At this point I think it's mostly because I find it funny how much it irritates the mods. But yeah, I'll stop mentioning it now.

Hell yeah!

Lodin no! You promised!

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

The time for
SkellyBones
has come!

Necrothatcher posted:

Lust From Beyond is actually pretty good though. It's basically a Hellraiser game.

I'd like to disagree. Played it, the predecessor and the prologue games with friends hoping for a laugh and it was just bad gameplay, bad walking, bad story and bad horror. Also dicks & tits aren't scary just because you shove them into the players face. Whoever made these games has loads of issues.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Mr.Misfit posted:

Whoever made these games has loads of issues.

Oh word?

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007

Mr.Misfit posted:

Played it, the predecessor and the prologue games with friends hoping for a laugh and it was just bad gameplay, bad walking, bad story and bad horror.

Took three games to gather this?

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

The time for
SkellyBones
has come!

Imagined posted:

Took three games to gather this?

We're slow in that regard ;)
But naww, mostly we were just hoping that they'd *magically* get better with each new game, instead of just adding more pointless shock loving.

Lodin
Jul 31, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
The next game from parts of that studio is about an incel who stops taking his meds and starts hallucinating about women who live in his appartement building turning into demons out to kill him. From what little I saw of the trailer you sneak around and murder female demons. I noped out pretty drat hard from that poo poo let me tell you.

There's a difference between the tree scene in Evil Dead and Salo.

Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010

Tree scene is kinda extra IMO

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
For the record just in case anyone's not familar, FATAL isn't actually played by anyone, anywhere, except occasionally as a joke, given the game is both overcomplicated to the point of parody (to actually resolve having sex in-game, you need to solve quadratic equations) and has absolutely no actual appeal beyond bizarrely overcomplicated mechanics for violence and rape, being effectively unplayable.


Don Gato posted:

It's not often that you're so bad that faceless corporate overlords are an upgrade in every way but by god White Wolf found a way.

Most of the old school names in traditional RPGs are like that. Mostly since it's the same old weird nerds writing them who've only gotten older and weirder, and haven't really made much progress on the actual mechanics beyond making them slightly less needlessly overcomplicated than they used to be.

An insane mind
Aug 11, 2018

Ghost Leviathan posted:

For the record just in case anyone's not familar, FATAL isn't actually played by anyone, anywhere, except occasionally as a joke, given the game is both overcomplicated to the point of parody (to actually resolve having sex in-game, you need to solve quadratic equations) and has absolutely no actual appeal beyond bizarrely overcomplicated mechanics for violence and rape, being effectively unplayable.

Most of the old school names in traditional RPGs are like that. Mostly since it's the same old weird nerds writing them who've only gotten older and weirder, and haven't really made much progress on the actual mechanics beyond making them slightly less needlessly overcomplicated than they used to be.

I thought White Wolf created World of Darkness and VtM and Werewolf and stuff? Which while overly fluffy and sometimes really cringy aren't all that bad or at least not filled with rape and the like (I guess the Embrace could be seen as kind of rapey?) I wonder why with Exalted they went so...weird. Was this kickstarter during gamergate or something? Maybe they had to show they had no truck with all this *feminism*

TGLT
Aug 14, 2009
White Wolf made those, but those all had tons of other edgier supplements under the Black Dog imprint and then later Onyx Path. Sometimes you get Charnel Houses of Europe where they make a real effort to treat the matter with sensitivity, but then you get the moronic rape contest in the Infernal book in Exalted. And the Baali in VtM. I think a lot of the people from those two ended up in control and that's how you get "actually the Chechens were secretly hunting vampires too" and "Some good Brujah examples are neo-nazis."

UwUnabomber
Sep 9, 2012

Pubes dreaded out so hoes call me Chris Barnes. I don't wear a condom at the pig farm.
FATAL has rules for if your penis is X cm wider then Y hole it has Z chance of killing the target. You can make characters who just gently caress things to death.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

An insane mind posted:

I thought White Wolf created World of Darkness and VtM and Werewolf and stuff? Which while overly fluffy and sometimes really cringy aren't all that bad or at least not filled with rape and the like (I guess the Embrace could be seen as kind of rapey?) I wonder why with Exalted they went so...weird. Was this kickstarter during gamergate or something? Maybe they had to show they had no truck with all this *feminism*

You're conflating the players of WoD with the written material. The books have always had some pretty bad stuff in them, but the average player usually doesn't engage with or even acknowledge that stuff.

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Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Meanwhile in more traditional awful games, something unprecedented has appeared:

Hentai dudes :aaaaa:

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