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The White Dragon posted:all this is one thing but otoh isn't it hard sometimes to discern between what's just an amateurish labor of love that took years to complete and something that was slapped together in a few months in rmxp or gamemaker? You still go into labor to deliver a downs baby... So ughhh don't do that?
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Well whose fault is that eh? He could have been humble: he could have been like "well many of these concepts are common sense." Instead the guy acts like he's had all these profound revelations; when really he's just a good designer who was in the right place at the right time. Oops, now nothing's good enough because you're Games Jesus. Which, J.B. talks, I can tell he's not that kind of rear end in a top hat. He set a bar nobody can reach because it's all nostalgia for a weird awkward growth phase for the medium. He should have been actively downplaying that success. Edit: how do pages work mobile?!?! I thought this was a different thread!  http://store.steampowered.com/app/351900/Pregnancy/ some freak posted:'Pregnancy' is an interactive short story where the player attempts to influence the decisions of a 14 year old girl about the future of her pregnancy. 
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Sep 20, 2017 01:03
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FantasticExtrusion posted:Well whose fault is that eh? He could have been humble: he could have been like "well many of these concepts are common sense." Instead the guy acts like he's had all these profound revelations; when really he's just a good designer who was in the right place at the right time. Oops, now nothing's good enough because you're Games Jesus. Before, this would have been some dumb art game on newgrounds, now we
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Didn't any of you watch Indie Game: The Movie? Blow came off as a pretentious hipster with way too much money and free time, Phil Fish came off as a complete rear end in a top hat which torpedoed the relationship with his financial backer and the Super Meat Boy guys came off as incredibly nice sympathetic people that got hosed by Microsoft.
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And yet all 3 of them managed to make fantastic games (though I'd say that was the Witness, not Braid, in Blow's case).
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Blow was like that before he was rich, based on a half-dozen conversations. So at least he's consistent.
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il_cornuto posted:And yet all 3 of them managed to make fantastic games (though I'd say that was the Witness, not Braid, in Blow's case). what was the good game that fish created? please dont say fez.
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Sep 20, 2017 17:00
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Fez.
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Fez was great, yeah.
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Fez was great, but by most accounts was great despite Fish's involvement, rather than because of it. It's also way shallower from a game design perspective than Braid or Meat Boy-most of its strong contributions are aesthetic. Even relatively small in duration, the shift mechanic struggles to bear its length.Subjunctive posted:Blow was like that before he was rich, based on a half-dozen conversations. So at least he's consistent. I'm willing to give him credit despite his self-importance because he keeps pulling it off, somehow. The real undersold supertalent, though, is Stephen Lavalle. I feel like ECT belongs here because people who like puzzle games would like it, and people who hate them will think it's the worst game ever made. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Sep 20, 2017 |
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Sep 20, 2017 19:48
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I don't get the hype Fez seemed to get before its release, it's a pretty standard puzzle platformer that also has like, ten really esoteric puzzles completely mechanically unrelated to the rest of the game, which results in a very weird difficulty curve. Even by the standards of its contemporaries it's a lot weaker as a game imo than, say, Bastion. Was the indie market so weak in 2012 that Fez was that great by comparison? I don't remember.
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Red Bones posted:I don't get the hype Fez seemed to get before its release, it's a pretty standard puzzle platformer that also has like, ten really esoteric puzzles completely mechanically unrelated to the rest of the game, which results in a very weird difficulty curve. Even by the standards of its contemporaries it's a lot weaker as a game imo than, say, Bastion. Was the indie market so weak in 2012 that Fez was that great by comparison? I don't remember. Ibdie game the movie built it up a bit
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It was one of that summer's poster children for XBLA's Summer Of Arcade. That, in addition to the fact that most XBLA games were kind of poo poo, helped make it better than its surrounding games.
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Discendo Vox posted:Fez was great, but by most accounts was great despite Fish's involvement, rather than because of it. It's also way shallower from a game design perspective than Braid or Meat Boy-most of its strong contributions are aesthetic. Even relatively small in duration, the shift mechanic struggles to bear its length. I've never heard of ECT and Google is not helping, what's that stand for? Also did you mean Steve Lavalle? Stephen Lavalle doesn't seem like the programming type.
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Any fun Blowtentiousness anecdotes you can share, Cingulate?Ignatius M. Meen posted:I've never heard of ECT and Google is not helping, what's that stand for? Also did you mean Steve Lavalle? Stephen Lavalle doesn't seem like the programming type. Stephen Lavelle, sorry. The games he's made that have seen commercial release are English Country Tune and Stephen's Sausage Roll. He also has a fuckton of free little experimental games on his website, http://www.increpare.com/. Stephen's Sausage Roll really, really seems like it belongs here, but it doesn't.
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I think Fez and The Witness are both incredible games regardless of how their creators act.
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Discendo Vox posted:Any fun Blowtentiousness anecdotes you can share, Cingulate? Those do look like good games, thanks for pointing me towards them even if this is the bad games thread!
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I'm not saying they do fit in here but I clicked on the first game and the top comment is quote:Beautiful. The mound of hair and semen pulled from the drain should win some sort of award for perfect representation of a thing that has never been represented in a video game before.
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Oh, that guy. PCGamer recommended that very game as a "It's free why not?" thing the other week. I tried it and it's about a ten minute game where you play both a guest and a host and you jack off into a sink and poop on a floor and
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il_cornuto posted:which certainly sounds like a comment you'd get on one of the terrible awful games on steam. I don't want to learn the context of this. It's more amazing this way.
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Yay, I found my own butthole!
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il_cornuto posted:I'm not saying they do fit in here but I clicked on the first game and the top comment is I didn't really look at the website games, just English Country Tune and Stephen's Sausage Roll. Guess I know now why those are all that showed up under increpare games on Steam! 
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Stephen Lavelle makes two kinds of games: genius puzzles and weird little experiments. He made Puzzlescript which is a very cool and easy way to make block pushing puzzles.
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Subjunctive posted:Blow was like that before he was rich, based on a half-dozen conversations. So at least he's consistent. Blow was always rich, though. Remember, he had enough liquid assets to pay a deece six figgies to hire an artist to paint all of the game's artwork and license all the music for it.
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Guy Mann posted:Blow was always rich, though. Remember, he had enough liquid assets to pay a deece six figgies to hire an artist to paint all of the game's artwork and license all the music for it. For Braid?
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Subjunctive posted:For Braid?
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Dark_Swordmaster posted:Oh, that guy. PCGamer recommended that very game as a "It's free why not?" thing the other week. I tried it and it's about a ten minute game where you play both a guest and a host and you jack off into a sink and poop on a floor and English Country Tune is a 3d puzzle game where you push blocks only they only decide which way gravity is by how you push them, along with other strange 3d concepts But yes, the same mind that creates intricate esoteric puzzle games like that, with completely original concepts and that have the design to match... also LOVES making games about making GBS threads on the floor and jacking off and other edgy things feels no shame attaching his name to them. e: he's sort of like if justin roilland was really smart Hemingway To Go! fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Sep 22, 2017 |
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Red Bones posted:I don't get the hype Fez seemed to get before its release, it's a pretty standard puzzle platformer that also has like, ten really esoteric puzzles completely mechanically unrelated to the rest of the game, which results in a very weird difficulty curve. Even by the standards of its contemporaries it's a lot weaker as a game imo than, say, Bastion. Was the indie market so weak in 2012 that Fez was that great by comparison? I don't remember. the way I pictured it he said "It's Fez" and half the thread just stood up and walked out without saying anything
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/709900/Deep_Dark_Fantasies/ I'm not even mad. I'm just disappointed. It isn't even trying.    It's a dumb meme game using compressed photos of that meme gay porn thing darkholme and this whole thing is just real sad that someone made it and got it put up on to steam and is charging money for it.
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Yes and no; Braid's full budget for 6 years of development was $200k. Blow had that money, true, but it was apparently about all of his savings, and he ramen'd it as hard as anyone during the time.
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I'm not gonna link this game because I've already linked way too many nws anime titty games in this thread and the only funny part is the description.Killing Time posted:ABOUT THIS GAME  Lol
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gaben moving in on the lucrative DLsite market
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Discendo Vox posted:Yes and no; Braid's full budget for 6 years of development was $200k. Blow had that money, true, but it was apparently about all of his savings, and he ramen' it as hard as anyone during the time. Yeah, it took him basically his whole career to sock that away, and he bet it all on Braid.
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how much was his "whole career" because i was under the impression he was in his 20s and that's a whole lot of money to put away in just a couple years
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He was 37 when it released. (And that $200K includes $50K of debt, IIRC.)
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Sep 23, 2017 11:11
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Guess he's lucky he didn't blow it all.
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RE: wealthy indie devs downplaying their resources I don't think anything tops the guy who made Castle Doctine doing the whole bootstraps thing and bragging about having his entire family live below the poverty line by choice only to have it come out that that figure didn't include medical care and him backing out of the whole arrangement as soon as it became inconvenient.
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There's whiny indies and there's this guy http://gue.cgwmuseum.org/galleries/index.php?pub=0&item=14&id=2&key=0 "When we were selling through our "Software Factory" we did all our own layouts and printing (I would take it to the local offset place myself) and my mother-in-law assembled the books and stuffed the plastic bags with them. It was a real cottage operation. I would drive to various computer stores in the area and leave free samples. And we sent a free copy of each of our products to all the software stores that advertised in the magazines at the time. That generated a lot of sales." ... Why is there a free HL1 mod in New and Trending ion Steam? Why does it have a paid plunger dlc? http://store.steampowered.com/app/699350/HalfLife_CAGED__Executive_Plunger/
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