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Dareon posted:I'm just trying to figure out what he ate that gave him 1600% fiber, 300% fats, 400% sodium, and no sugar. Burlap sack dipped in beef dripping with salt on it.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It's not ALL of them, but the trends for protagonists being shouty manchildren or grumpy teenagers (of all ages) haven't helped. And that they usually get zero character development while gaining a zillion powerups that make the supporting cast irrelevant for everything but filler and commentary. This is a trend with every country's videogames.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It's not ALL of them, but the trends for protagonists being shouty manchildren or grumpy teenagers (of all ages) haven't helped. And that they usually get zero character development while gaining a zillion powerups that make the supporting cast irrelevant for everything but filler and commentary. Well the thing about Anime is that it's often written by people who watch Anime. Basically just apply Miyazaki's famous criticism of Anime art to writing and you've got the root of the problem. Schubalts posted:This is a trend with every country's videogames. A similar thing. Video games are frequently written by people who like the writing in video games. It's a feedback cycle.
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Non-video gamers have definitely tried their hand at writing video games here and there, but I'm not sure if the results have ever been good. Certainly not often.
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/750210/Last_Anime_boy_Saving_loli/ Kill it with fire.
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Kanfy posted:Non-video gamers have definitely tried their hand at writing video games here and there, but I'm not sure if the results have ever been good. Certainly not often. I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream? That one is pretty good (although I guess technically it's just an adaptation of a pre-existing work, but Ellison also wrote the script for the game). But yeah the thing is that usually if someone is "too good" for video game writing they often write in more prestigious media like literature or film.
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I feel like that's selling video game writers a little short, I've always more gotten the vibe that it's such a different beast to tackle that even being a good book or movie writer doesn't automatically make you a good game writer.
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Kanfy posted:being a good book or movie writer doesn't automatically make you a good game writer. And even when it does, it doesn't mean that the game will be good. Clive Barker's Undying is fairly well-regarded, iirc, but Jericho is decidedly less so, through no fault of Barker's.
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Does that goon count who made the animal crossing lp and his writing about it helped get him hired as a writer for some vidgame company?
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Kanfy posted:Non-video gamers have definitely tried their hand at writing video games here and there, but I'm not sure if the results have ever been good. Certainly not often. The Mother series is a pretty famous example.
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Kanfy posted:Non-video gamers have definitely tried their hand at writing video games here and there, but I'm not sure if the results have ever been good. Certainly not often. Yakuza 1 and 2 had a Japanese crime novelist work with the development team writers on the main plots, and they were good. Deadguy2322 fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Sep 1, 2018 |
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Parasite Eve was based on a Japanese horror novel.
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Dareon posted:Parasite Eve was based on a Japanese horror novel. And as someone who's seen all three incarnations of the story, the game hands-down is the most palatable vs the film/novel. Mostly due to less psychic rape.
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Kanfy posted:Non-video gamers have definitely tried their hand at writing video games here and there, but I'm not sure if the results have ever been good. Certainly not often. It was good for metro 2033. Not so good for last light.
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Dareon posted:Parasite Eve was based on a Japanese horror novel. The first game is actually a sequel to the movie based on the novel, so it’s pretty far removed from the source.
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It depends wildly on the type of video game, too. Not only does the writing have to accommodate for the requirements of gameplay and technical limitations but try to fit the tone of the game too, otherwise you get the good ol' ludonarrative dissonance. And it doesn't help that a lot of video game plots are basically lifted wholesale from movies and anime.
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It sounds to me like good writers will simply write good stories, rather than good book and movie writers producing distinctly better video game stories than good video game writers. I feel like the latter should get more credit than they currently do. Anyway, I didn't mean to derail the terrible train or anything.
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The original 2 Megami Tensei are based off of a book trilogy as well, but we're very far removed from that source at this point. There are still some influences in the main series (off the top of my head, demons being summoned via computer program is the plot of the first book) but the original author had very little to do with the adaptation.Dareon posted:Parasite Eve was based on a Japanese horror novel. The book also gets loving weird. Moreso than the game the true enemy turns out to be organ transplanting
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The Cheshire Cat posted:I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream? That one is pretty good (although I guess technically it's just an adaptation of a pre-existing work, but Ellison also wrote the script for the game). But yeah the thing is that usually if someone is "too good" for video game writing they often write in more prestigious media like literature or film. You might have read it but when Ellsion passed Kotaku interviewed the guy who he worked with on the script. It's a really interesting read on how the hell a project like that could even happen. https://kotaku.com/how-harlan-ellison-s-most-famous-short-story-became-an-1827327887
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Even if you get a good writer for a video game they'll have to deal with video game story pacing, being stuck writing around the development process or even the game being a mess that has to be salvaged at the last second.
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i read the original i have no mouth and i must scream and as far as i know from reading the game synopsis it actually expands on it and gives the characters more depth and background.
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Yep that was the point of it. As that interview points out, Ellison was heavily involved in the writing side of it though not much else and had to approve of everything that went in. Though the interview says he didn't object to much, Ellison seems like he was the type who would have spoken up if he didn't like any of the ideas presented to him. Thanks for linking that btw. It changes my impression of the man a bit.
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:Even if you get a good writer for a video game they'll have to deal with video game story pacing, being stuck writing around the development process or even the game being a mess that has to be salvaged at the last second. It's also not uncommon for games to have their setpieces decided well in advance of the actual writing which adds another layer of difficulty to the process.
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Also, y'know, the game overall has to have good pacing despite the player having the option to decide to play a fishing minigame for 10 hours in-between plot points.
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Mokinokaro posted:Yep that was the point of it. He was a notorious curmudgeon so whatever made it into the game had his blessing pretty much. God speed, Ellison, wherever you are...
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So did anyone post this yet? https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/09/what-make-a-troll-game-valve-tries-for-a-steam-wide-definition/ quote:There's a little more subjectivity in determining if a Steam title is what Valve calls "a game shaped object." The company defines this category as "a crudely made piece of software that technically and just barely passes our bar as a functioning video game but isn't what 99.9% of folks would say is 'good.'" Hippie Hedgehog fucked around with this message at 10:45 on Sep 7, 2018 |
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The only moral porn games are my porn games.
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Redefining terminology in the pursuit of lower standards.
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Have people already make the Fortnite joke? Fornication: Battle Royale
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Valve already have a super popular MOBA game and is about to release a card duel game. Any bets on how long before they announce a Team Fortress or Left 4 Dead battle royale?
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Team Fortress Gacha game where the gacha is for hats Left 4 Dead survival/crafting sandbox
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The MSJ posted:Valve already have a super popular MOBA game and is about to release a card duel game. Any bets on how long before they announce a Team Fortress or Left 4 Dead battle royale? Never because valve forgot they own TF2 and L4D.
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The MSJ posted:Valve already have a super popular MOBA game and is about to release a card duel game. Any bets on how long before they announce a Team Fortress or Left 4 Dead battle royale? Left 4 Dead where everyone plays as one of the generic zombie horde
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The MSJ posted:Valve already have a super popular MOBA game and is about to release a card duel game. Any bets on how long before they announce a Team Fortress or Left 4 Dead battle royale?
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Valve finally takes advantage of opening the porn floodgates on Steam with TF2 Dating Sim.
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The MSJ posted:Valve already have a super popular MOBA game and is about to release a card duel game. Any bets on how long before they announce a Team Fortress or Left 4 Dead battle royale? You joke, but dataminers found out Valve has been fooling around with something that looks an awful lot like a battle royal mode for CS:GO for quite some time.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Valve finally takes advantage of opening the porn floodgates on Steam with TF2 Dating Sim. Oh good, finally the Soldier/Demoman feelgood visual novel of the year we've all been waiting for
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Valve finally takes advantage of opening the porn floodgates on Steam with TF2 Dating Sim. 
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The funniest thing about Steam's new porn game rules is how they have to list out everything that happens in a sexual way so you get really basic descriptions of all the sex scenes. Play a game and count how many times the phrases "distraught" or "without clear consent" appear.
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