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Tricky Dick Nixon
Jul 26, 2010

The body is but a vessel for the soul, a puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny. And lo, the body is not eternal, for it must feed on the flesh of others, lest it return to the dust from whence it came. Therefore must the soul deceive, despise and murder men.


Karl Barks posted:

supposedly, we were told that if we did not incorporate, national would withold their tax ID # - not sure if this is the same thing as what you're saying

we considered the smaller officers group for the incorporation, they said this was like creating a two tier voting system, and it was unfair

The board of directors is not required to vote on anything per the laws here in Oklahoma. Your articles of incorporation/bylaws can account for a general membership being able to vote, without being on the board. I sort of see what they are thinking (that there'd be a officers group and then a board of directors with powers the officers group doesn't have) but your bylaws can make that a non-issue. We had the same discussion. But I also think it depends on the state laws, incorporation here in Oklahoma is very easy.

And do you mean the EIN (Employer ID Number)? The incorporation team we spoke to said that they considered it and decided that they are not going to give that out to anyone because it means whomever is using that EIN is being filed under the same taxes, it's like sharing a social security number. So it would require national to have every local using that EIN to submit all their financial paperwork to national, which is a nightmare on many levels. They were suggesting everyone incorporate and file for your own EIN, and then they would file for group exemption status for their organization meaning every subsidiary wouldn't have to apply for tax-exempt status individually, they'd just be approved as a subsidiary organization so it cuts down immensely on the paperwork. Otherwise you have to prove to the IRS you are eligible every year and probably have to hire an accountant.

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Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981



Tricky Dick Nixon posted:

The board of directors is not required to vote on anything per the laws here in Oklahoma. Your articles of incorporation/bylaws can account for a general membership being able to vote, without being on the board. I sort of see what they are thinking (that there'd be a officers group and then a board of directors with powers the officers group doesn't have) but your bylaws can make that a non-issue. We had the same discussion. But I also think it depends on the state laws, incorporation here in Oklahoma is very easy.

And do you mean the EIN (Employer ID Number)? The incorporation team we spoke to said that they considered it and decided that they are not going to give that out to anyone because it means whomever is using that EIN is being filed under the same taxes, it's like sharing a social security number. So it would require national to have every local using that EIN to submit all their financial paperwork to national, which is a nightmare on many levels. They were suggesting everyone incorporate and file for your own EIN, and then they would file for group exemption status for their organization meaning every subsidiary wouldn't have to apply for tax-exempt status individually, they'd just be approved as a subsidiary organization so it cuts down immensely on the paperwork. Otherwise you have to prove to the IRS you are eligible every year and probably have to hire an accountant.

I think that because we are the oldest active DSA chapter (boston btw), we were using the national EIN for some time. When the org was smaller it didn't really matter.

the plan was to incorporate as a 501c4, same as national, so maybe we were trying to skip a step? we wouldn't have needed to get the group exemption from national in this case.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

aaaaaaaaaag


Ham Wrangler

achillesforever6 posted:

Yeah but at the same time Fox was looking to sell and if it wasn't going to be Disney, Comcast was next in line and Comcast is 100000000x more evil than Disney (not saying Disney isn't evil of course)

so you're saying the lesser of two evils lol

Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.




Liberals are still pissed that Jill Stein offered to buy Fox for $6 and a stick of gum

unbutthurtable
Dec 2, 2016

Total. Tox. Rereg.




GlyphGryph posted:

You chapter seems kind of dumb tbh

Look, the last thing we want to do is establish any kind of precedence for competence or responsibility.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002



https://twitter.com/DSADems/status/942048845671870464

Jeb! Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.


Unbelievably Fat Man posted:

Liberals are still pissed that Jill Stein offered to buy Fox for $6 and a stick of gum

Why would we be pissed about that?

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.


Jeb! Repetition posted:

Why would we be pissed about that?

Why do you feel the need to speak for all liberals?

Jeb! Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.


Dreddout posted:

Why do you feel the need to speak for all liberals?

Because I'm the greatest liberal, but also I'm not speaking for all liberals I'm just wondering why that would piss any of us off.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

aaaaaaaaaag


Ham Wrangler


Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.





praxis advice from a leading thinker of our times

Tricky Dick Nixon
Jul 26, 2010

The body is but a vessel for the soul, a puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny. And lo, the body is not eternal, for it must feed on the flesh of others, lest it return to the dust from whence it came. Therefore must the soul deceive, despise and murder men.


Karl Barks posted:

I think that because we are the oldest active DSA chapter (boston btw), we were using the national EIN for some time. When the org was smaller it didn't really matter.

the plan was to incorporate as a 501c4, same as national, so maybe we were trying to skip a step? we wouldn't have needed to get the group exemption from national in this case.

That makes more sense, but the way it was explained to me, the incorporation they were encouraging was to do so as a 501c4, then apply for an EIN once you're a legal entity, and then instead of filing for tax-exempt status getting that group exemption to do so. Irregardless, it sounds like there's some weirdness going on from being a legacy local there. I just want to reiterate about the director thing: Having checked the MA laws about it you could simply have the directors be a mere formality. They are just the group who ratify the bylaws/articles of incorporation that empower other officers and the general assembly, and then continue along as you always have afterwards. So if that helps convince anyone who thinks it might be tiered membership, there it is.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014





no need to post your latest project wj

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

aaaaaaaaaag


Ham Wrangler

https://twitter.com/mollycrabapple/...101585399877632

idk if there’s nyc dsa here but

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002




https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/942132884290330625

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012

YOU DON'T DESERVE
A BREAK TODAY


Lipstick Apathy

danny up to his latest tricks

unbutthurtable
Dec 2, 2016

Total. Tox. Rereg.





yeah yeah yeah, I see it


and he's not wrong about verso lol

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012

YOU DON'T DESERVE
A BREAK TODAY


Lipstick Apathy

zero books or

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010


zero books is extremely hit and miss

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


i love zero books

as in the number of books i am going to read is zero

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012


The Islamic gommunism panel where it's 'ead the fuging salad' but instead it's a leftcom holding a gun to a book's head trying to get them to read 'see spot run'

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002



https://twitter.com/Trillburne/stat...228722928713728

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

#RXTREVOLUTIONFOREVER6


at this angry boomer hate mail a member got because he wrote a opinion letter to the Post Gazette about how cool the PGH DSA is.

https://imgur.com/5vQw5z0

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014




to dumb

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012

YOU DON'T DESERVE
A BREAK TODAY


Lipstick Apathy

this guy is in my local and is cool as hell

yes i'm bragging for e-cred. send me to the gulag thx

R. Guyovich
Feb 23, 2010

SA's leading murderer of dinosaurs and hater of black women



RIP Tiny Brontosaurus 12/13/17


that donald tweet is inaccurate. verso would never publish a book that's positive about actually existing socialism

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981



shots fired

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Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981



i read this and liked it

https://www.versobooks.com/books/25...inst-everything

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