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Sep 28, 2007

gently caress yeah DSA

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Sep 28, 2007

jarofpiss posted:

yeah we've got redhats saying they're going to come confront us at our action on sunday. i assume a whole zero of them will actually show but :getin: if they do

I've never been to Houston. Can I sleep on your floor if I promise to punch one nazi for every hour of sleep

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Sep 28, 2007

OhFunny posted:

Hey all.

Had 9 people total at the DSA meeting I organized today. The meeting went rather well as an icebreaker. We discussed getting involved in our Dem Town Committees and town politics to push better candidates. We talked about the various issues we wanted to work on and the situation we face in NH. Everyone there was a new member. A lot of former Bernie supporters venting about Clinton and the Dems withered roots. We're going to meet again in two weeks to formally form a DSA Organizing Committee.

I'm pretty happy.

Great job! I was excited to hear about how the meeting went

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Sep 28, 2007

jarofpiss posted:

i got akward drunk at my dsa meetikng tonight and i think we all learned something

I cant wait for my first meeting! good luck tomorrow, be safe but not too safe

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Sep 28, 2007

Bernie is kicking Ted's rear end in this debate. Socialism wins

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Sep 28, 2007

Tweet Me Balls posted:

Alright, I paid my DSA dues. I'm in central Arizona, and there's no chapter or signs of immediate interest even around ASU, and it's frustrating. I need to start probing between classes, maybe see if I can grab the interest of some queer club people and/or some democrats.

I'm a fat little gremlin of a human being and I don't think I should be organizing anything, but Turning Point USA has been tabling on campus and they're the most insufferable thing I've ever seen.

People are super interested all around the country. Put up fliers and a facebook page, people will start sharing it, and people will show up.

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Sep 28, 2007

First meeting in Austin TX tonight! I'm very excited.

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Sep 28, 2007

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Sep 28, 2007

GodFish posted:

Okay, here's a non-mispelled Socialists version.



its supposed to be spelled Bernocratic

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Sep 28, 2007

I went to an Austin DSA meeting and there were tons of other first timers, and I feel like the meeting had one huge flaw: it didn't give people a clear next step of action. With the numbers of DSA members shooting through the roof, lots of people are going to be just dipping a toe into the water and could easily not show up again or slowly fade away. The meeting hosted people from various groups who talked about joining their groups, or attending various advocacy days at the state legislature. But the DSA itself seemed to be doing nothing but hosting a rally where other groups advertised.

I think the DSA needs to end every meeting with a simple plan of action that everyone can join in on. Something like next Saturday we are going to go to this one area and do something for the community while promoting DSA to potential new members. Or really just anything so that no matter who shows up to the DSA meeting, they know exactly what is the next physical thing they will go do. I think this will help retention and keep energy high.

Does this make sense? Should I just write that idea up in a clearer, more persuasive way and send it to my local DSA facebook page? I don't want the DSA to lose out on this one-in-a-lifetime glut of new members.

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Sep 28, 2007

That's a lovely strategy that's going to make most new people drift off. Maybe they need to pick a particular local issue or area and have a series of events designed around improving it.

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Sep 28, 2007

Ace of Baes posted:

It depends on how big the chapter is, if you have like 200 people it's more practical to split people off into work groups where people with similar goals (primarying dems, recruiting, focusing on racial justice, etc.) can laser in on policy goals or w.e. Every DSA chapter is guided by the national but afaik given a shitload of freedom of how they want to set up and operate.

The particular meeting I went to was my first, there were maybe 100 there, but I don't remember them explaining much about different committees you can join and what they do.

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Sep 28, 2007

unbutthurtable posted:

A sweet spot in the middle is to use the main meetings to have the different working groups present their status update to the main organization and advertise for the events they've planned where they need the massed actions of the group at large. If feasible, you can precede this stage of a meeting with 20 minutes or so, where everyone breaks into their group for more details.

The main meetings can be a great way to re-unify all the working groups on a monthly basis, and it gives you a whole menu of events to present to the general membership. Also, it's a great opportunity to showcase how many leadership positions are occupied by women and people of color, which by golly better be how they are led.

I'd love that. Maybe that's the case usually. This time it was almost all people from outside groups, making me wonder what the hell the DSA even does. The only committee that talked was the tech committee and their report was "oh god please help us make a website"

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Sep 28, 2007

Bok Bok posted:

here was no blank organizational chart with a structure already in place waiting to be filled and certainly not prescience for the amount of bullshit this administration has thrust upon the country in the last month. Nobody knew there would be this mass joinup and it's still shaking out how chapters will function best for their needs.


That's a really good point

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Sep 28, 2007

oooh I know what committee I'm going to start: the new member committee. The purpose will be to give a place for all new members to give input on why they joined, what they want to get out of being a member, what they don't understand, etc. We can have a google survey and a intro packet of links and helpful info.



And yes, we have to shape new people into being socialists, not let new people shape the DSA into just being another progressive group

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Sep 28, 2007

sillyloquy posted:

That was my first meeting too and I agree with your observations. I had a conversation with our chapter head to try and get a clearer idea of how the group works and she described her organizing philosophy as "anarchic". If you want to form a committee I'm sure you could do it, and we should collaborate.

Pm sent

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Sep 28, 2007

I typed up a first draft of my proposal for a new members committee. I'd love some feedback before I submit it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jgngoo780j6tixg/New%20Members%20Committee.docx?dl=0

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Sep 28, 2007

jarofpiss posted:

this is cool as hell and the only thing i have to mention is that be willing to develop it all and present it to the organizers even if they aren't willing to hand over the email lists to you right away. we're fairly protective of those (especially regarding new members) just because it's not uncommon to have other groups trying to get ahold of any kind of email list they can.

also if you wind up going through with it and developing a survey and stuff let me know, i'd like to be able to show it to our crew in houston and see if it's something they'd like trying out

Will do. I'll likely use the google survey platform.

SomeMathGuy posted:

One thing I could see adding is clarification of precisely what platform you intend to offer the survey through (some sort of online software, email, whatever).
Good point. Thank you.

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Also as reading suggestions go, Jacobin's The ABCs of Socialism,

Thanks for this, too.

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Sep 28, 2007

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

Yeah and if I may suggest, share this with the rocket chat -

I don't think I know what this is.

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Sep 28, 2007

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

It's the national live/real time chat. Like the discord but more than just goons.

Apply here (it won't be instant because your membership has to be cross-checked against national's records): https://dsachat-register.herokuapp.com/

Oh right I did that yesterday or two days ago. I'll post my idea once I get in

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Sep 28, 2007

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

Don't be downhearted if it seems like your enthusiasm isn't shared by your chapter or members - some of us are saving energy for a marathon, others are bad at communicating excitement, some have seen this happen with other new members who drop out quickly and are wary of it happening again, and others may be so depressed at the current situation that they can barely muster the energy to come to meetings. Your enthusiasm is appreciated, and it could be contagious.

Idea I snagged from Twitter, for chapters in areas with many people experiencing homelessness. Think of community support programs and activities, like the BPP did with their breakfast program, clothes drives, etc.


Thats a great idea but please don't send homeless people to loving starbucks

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Sep 28, 2007

This is just my two cents, but I think it's not the best tactic for another reason: the DSA isn't a charity, it is a political organization that needs to build a labor movement by getting allies. The DSA is a group with limited resources and everything has to have two purposes, accomplish something good and also help the overall goal. Homelessness is a loving tragedy but handing out gift cards doesn't accomplish anything meaningful nor does it build allies because the majority of homeless people are not in the position to be part of a political movement. You'd be a lot better off helping working families get groceries for their kids and then turning them into political allies.

Just my thoughts

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Sep 28, 2007

You're doing a great thing I'm not denying that.

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Sep 28, 2007

Brute Squad posted:

It's a bit nitpicky, but I'd suggest adding specifics about your individual chapter to the Info Packet section. E.g. Org Structure, Committee descriptions, ongoing projects. It's one of your listed purposes (essential information), but is missing in the 'execution' sections.

I'm also a bit confused about the survey. Is it a one-time or recurring survey for all new members, for all or an ongoing survey filled out by each new member as they join? I'm only asking that because it might impact your reporting process. For me, I'd report differently if it's a 2-week survey of all the new members in the past 3 months, versus a survey filled out by every member as they join, and a summary presented every meeting cycle along the lines of "8 new members, these are the number of people interested in each committee". Maybe I'm just thinking in the wrong timeframe, and seeing a granularity problem with the data if the number of new members is low during a particular month.

I'm super interested in helping organize groups and develop both projects and groups. It's been an academic and extracurricular interest of mine for many years. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to do much for the DSA right now, but I will be mailing in my membership form shortly.

Thanks for this post. Good points. As far as reporting, right now there are tons of people showing up, but that won't always be the case, so I can rework it to say there will only be data shared at monthly meetings when we have had 50 new members or it has been three meetings since the last report (whichever comes first), or something like that.

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Sep 28, 2007

GlyphGryph posted:

I'd go one step further here - if you're collecting survey data, distributing information on opportunities is nice... but most people prefer active guidance.

I really like this idea. Given that there are over 100 new members to my chapter, possibly as many as 200 new people who have turned up at meetings since the election, I don't know if that's doable as a stated, 100% effective service for past members, unless I get some people who sign up to join the committee and help. What I'll do is add this as a goal of the committee provided I get additional people to help with that project. Which is great, because then I have tasks beyond just me for anyone who wants to help with this committee!

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Sep 28, 2007

One of the two chapter heads here uses an aol.com email address

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Sep 28, 2007

Flat Daddy posted:

When I first looked up the Austin dsa and found their website I figured they were defunct since the page was so janky and like even the Facebook link was broken.

e: I ended up signing up for dsa and filled out a volunteer form for their tech stuff since I'm a codeboy

I'm on the newly-formed website team and so are 14 or so other people. Hopefully the website gets fixed asap

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Sep 28, 2007

I'm at new members school at Austin DSA and starting to think this chapter is a waste of time. The chairs have no interest in organizing direct action led by the DSA. They just want to funnel people into other groups and send members to events organized by other groups. I can't get a satisfactory answer on why I should be a member of this chapter rather than joining groups that work on the issues I care about.

Very disappointing

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Sep 28, 2007

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

You could

a: join both DSA and those groups
b: entryism

Well I'm staying as a regular member, I'm just not going to run that committee I posted about. I should have specified.

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