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Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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i haven't joined yet but i'm looking at an OH chapter

i need to learn how to become a slave to capital on thursday nights, which is when they have their meetings

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Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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between this and the dry boys i decided to reach out to the cleveland chapter and see if they have additional events besides the monthly meetings i can never make

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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lmao

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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hahahaha this is the first time i saw pelosi's reaction when she took the question and you can just see her freak the gently caress out as soon as capitalism gets dropped

edit:
https://www.facebook.com/demsocialists/videos/1168659943232820/
he already joined

Business Gorillas has issued a correction as of 06:49 on Feb 4, 2017

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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Anime Schoolgirl posted:

and the only time they get angry enough to do real damage is because women won't go out with them despite being "nice guys" who actually have abrasive and condescending personalities :qq:

this is relevant
http://politicalideologycatgirls.com/comic/008-letters-to-alunya/

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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jarofpiss posted:

pulled over 1000 people in houston and marched and everyone thought i was a falcons supporter because i was wearing all black. anyway, looks like we're getting nyt and usa today writeups among others. no infowars interviews though

there's a npr piece on the dsa i heard a couple days ago and it wasn't overwhelmingly negative :3:

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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is there some kind of socialist fascination with thursdays? they're the one day i can't make the meetings and every DSA in driving distance of me has meetings thursday nights :gonk:

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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Dreddout posted:

I read trenchcoats as technocrats and got nervous

You can do a pretty good technocrat gimmick by agreeing with socialists and then humbly suggesting that all policies should be means tested and phased in over 10 years imo

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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Jack Gladney posted:

If those loving /pol/ pepes are quaking behind their computers, does that mean we're the jocks now?

I tried to think of a point against this but I've been spending most of the past couple weeks working out, cheering intimidating nazis hiding in their basements, and hanging out with sorority girls, so I think so

Business Gorillas has issued a correction as of 17:51 on Feb 9, 2017

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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Suggestion for the DSA gang tag to be The Karl Thundercocks

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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Pollyanna posted:

It helps that the average person takes better to "let's talk about inequality and what we can do to improve our society" than they do to "let's talk about how lovely jews and women are", re: proselytizing. I honestly believe that most people would be on the side of the DSA over the alt-right.

i agree but let's be fair, there's a lot of "let's talk about how lovely white people are" on the mainstream left right now

edit: if you break down what socialists what its incredibly popular, the hard part is just getting past the barriers an entire generation has from being raised in the cold war

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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jarofpiss posted:

anime is reformist, counterrevolutionary, and is absolutely haram

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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a story in 3 acts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWVw64lTwYY

https://twitter.com/JonathanCohn/status/829849652719677440

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/829813449165250563

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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Ohio socialists get at me

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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lancemantis posted:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/modeledbehavior/2017/02/12/socialism-is-bad


A man that supposedly has a PhD wrote this; I mean I know its forbes but come on

I mean the only people that will read Forbes thinkpieces don't need any convincing that socialism is bad

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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SomeMathGuy posted:

I'm trying to figure out if that's poorly written because the guy's a poo poo writer or if it's some misguided attempt to effectively communicate with "the kids" who may be interested in trying bad ol' socialism. I could see it going either way.

Tbh I've been seeing more and more centrist thinkpieces and people freaking the gently caress out about the rapidly rising left (ex. That dem senator today that's worried about getting primaried and calling the dem base no better than the tea party)

There's a moderate chance this was written as a frantic response to some guy decking a Nazi or something. Liberals are rapidly realizing that the left is pissed and, more importantly, they aren't the answer anymore.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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Also just as a reminder from the article the new Jacobin is out and it's very spicy. Id definitely look into getting a sub if you don't already

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

look im gonna keep bringing up gang tags until we get one, dammit

someone's gotta make one :shrug:

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

worst things about using attachments are that i cant edit or delete an existing attachment and i cant attach more than one file to a post

so you get to see an idiot figure out image editing LIVE!!!

added :thonking: to the smilie rotation



I think you're on to something here

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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:ussr:

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Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

Does anyone know anything about the Cincinnati or Columbus chapters because I am pretty much in between and can go either way. Columbus seems more active I think? Which would make sense.

Columbus would make more sense since Cincinnati is red af. I'm in Cleveland and I'm going to my first meeting next week.

I'm moving to Columbus in September so if you go to the COL one I wouldn't mind a summary

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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Crowsbeak posted:

As much as I don't like those people for having a tendency for beating up non whites and poor people. Its a good idea to have influence within the societal watchmen.

I mean they all overwhelmingly voted trump for some reason I can't exactly put my finger on

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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going to my first meeting on thursday and i'm p excited, its the first meeting after perez getting the DNC chair and whatever this piss speech was about :toot:

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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went to my first meeting tonight and sign me up for Ohio :radcat:

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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So the DSA meeting I went to it was pretty clear that theyre having growing pains. They've doubled dues paying members in a month and they're just starting things like labor solidarity efforts and creating bylaws for the chapter (they're on the cusp of being an official chapter iirc)

There's a fuckton of heart and drive to do stuff but there's a noticeable lack of... extroversion, for lack of a better term? The meeting was almost 3 hours and was literally reading off the minutes and explaining some solidarity marches that were coming up. I went to the meeting fired up and desperate to make positive change, but at the end of it I was pretty bored, to be frank.

They need more people persons to get people excited about coming to meetings and wanting to come to the next one and being an HR person, I can help with that. Im planning to go to the structural meeting and I was wondering what other chapters have done when it comes to community outreach and trying to reach new people.

I was pretty much going to make a point that's mostly this post as well as create some sort of streamlined, professional looking handout for meetings (something that could be a template and eventually passed off to the communication committee) as well as suggest better newcomer icebreakers and changing the current monologue of community chairs into a dialogue.

I'm definitely worried about running over people personality-wise and not wanting to come off as some dickhole that went to one meeting and knows everything, but at the same time politics are social exercises and these guys desperately need to attract and retain these kinds of people to offset the very analytical group they have now.

Also I'll have a diet Pepsi and a cheeseburger extra pickles thank you very much

Edit: they're also having a huge "only white dude" problem but I figure baby steps first

Business Gorillas has issued a correction as of 23:53 on Mar 3, 2017

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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logikv9 posted:

nearly handed out three probations instead of titles :sweatdrop:

When will the tyranny of mods STOP???

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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lancemantis posted:

Watching people on Facebook reply to questions like "what's your position with regard to X? I'm interested in joining but I need to know first" is kind of annoying. It feels like late capitalism has managed to hit left politics the hardest; people treating these things like commodities.

I mean I get where you're coming from but at the same time, nobody actually knowing what socialism is or what it stands for beyond invading America in Kurt Russell movies is very intentional.

Treating the DSA like a commodity is a way to connect with people and persuading people to our side. It isn't a coincidence that people are flirting with the DSA because of insanely spicy leftist memes and the rise of Chapo and Jacobin. We need normies in the revolution too.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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its even less than three emojis :stare:

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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The DSA will only be able to survive with pure strength of conviction and a sense of progressive justice. For this reason, I recommend that we seek the endorsement of Michael Bloomberg.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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logikv9 posted:

:siren: Hello DSA thread. :siren: Your lovely OP has organized a gangtag for those of you who have donated a minimum of $5 to the DSA, if you choose to have it.



If you would like it, please quote this post along side proof of a donation of sufficient quantity. Proof can be simply quoting an older post you made previously that itself contained donation proof, or if you are a new donor that wants it, quote this post alongside proof of that donation.

I can nearly guarantee that your title will be safe and sound underneath your avatars within five (5) business days, or whenever I check this thread, really. :hai:

i finally did it,



also digging for the screenshot i noticed that based on the confirmation number of a past screenshot, there's been 800 new members in the past 6 days

edit: if you'd center it too that'd be p great

Business Gorillas has issued a correction as of 05:30 on Mar 15, 2017

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Hulk Krogan posted:

A twitter account that shits on the DSA for being too normie fairly regularly.

can someone explain to me why people take twitter seriously

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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Phi230 posted:

Why not just be centrist dems then

You need normies to be part of the revolution comrade

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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Phi230 posted:

All we have to do is make socialism cool again, which is what Chapo and memes do.

If we walk on eggshells about our beliefs we are no different than the democrat pusses

At the same time I can't see a better way to permanently turn someone off from the cause by having their first impression being talked down to for not being serious enough, getting bogged down in jargon, or watching a Bolshevik/menshevik slapfight at their first meeting

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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jarofpiss posted:

all i mean is i didn't join a socialist org to hang out with centrist dem nerds.

i agree with your big post completely and i don't think anyone is openly advocating for more centrist boomers. at the same time, fiery rhetoric about the destruction of capital and calling people comrade is definitely going to spook some people out. considering it's just becoming A Big Thing, just sticking to bernie's platform of "you should actually have rights, racism is bad, and billionaires need to pay actual taxes" is a good way to get asses in seats

like it or not, but you're absolutely going to have to phrase things using "their terms" to get any real foothold because we're starting from square one

edit: its almost like we're dealing with a 60-year long campaign of dinsinformation and fear-mongering that's only now showing cracks

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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like all you have to do is channel the massive amount of "gently caress YOU" in the national discourse right now to the rich and actually show up to fight for people and you'd sweep elections all over the place

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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Phi230 posted:

lol no just dont wanna see the DSA collapse because of bad things

I mean I already see in the DSA some bad things, like not really doing anything besides meeting every once in a while, like my chapter.

i mean you're obviously passionate about it, why not channel that anger about the right things not being done and take it upon yourself to start a marxist reading group?

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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My pronouns are comrade/comrade/comrade's

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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Does anyone have any experience on making professional looking newsletters? I wanted to make a nice looking newsletter as a prototype for the structural meeting in a couple weeks but I'm not very good with computer.

Can I just make them in word?

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Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

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Accretionist posted:

Brothers and sisters, we need to work out more

*lifts in solidarity*

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