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Yossarian-22 posted:PSL are tankie scum tho who are all about solidarity with the DPRK, China, Russia, etc. DSA is a bit soc dem but it has the numbers with none of the tank Imperialism is bad, but also the CIA is totally right about every enemy-designate of the United States. I'm extremely leftist and smart about it.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2017 01:48 |
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Ruzihm posted:i mean the reason trots splinter so much is because of the nature of democratic centralism. if you disagree you have no choice but to splinter. no tolerance for factions democratic centralism isn't a trotskyist precept lmao
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2017 04:10 |
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Grand Prize Winner posted:First priority: get that chain renamed Burger Comrade Burgher Meister
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2017 05:25 |
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*wipes single tear from eye*
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 18:55 |
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Raskolnikov38 posted:based on that pic someone linked of cops posted at a DSA meeting i'd say its a p safe assumption that the FBI et al already have people on the inside the fbi have had a black budget for infiltrations even after 1991 and for an organization of the dsa's size the likelihood of there being long-serving operatives from way way before this membership bump is somewhere between 100 and 1 million percent
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 17:49 |
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also i hope jarofpiss comes in here and makes fun of me for missing the dsa social hour for the tankiest of reasons
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 17:50 |
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:"can't come to meeting, arguing about the holodomor on Tumblr"? my meeting at the chinese consulate was pushed back a day
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 19:37 |
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jarofpiss posted:you didn't get to see any of the many many busts of lenin im genuinely bummed about this. keep me in the loop, im in california for a week starting monday but will be totally free once im back
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 19:38 |
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i see dsa people itt are already turning to the nyeah nyeah organizational model of making GBS threads on other orgs and parties and pretending their members don't do things
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2017 04:40 |
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i didn't read the last page so i guess it's appropriate i missed dozens of posts in the dsa thread about Bat Man
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2017 04:44 |
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Ace of Baes posted:*largest socialist organization since pre-WWII springs into existence in less than 12 months* gently caress you dude making GBS threads on other orgs for no reason accomplishes nothing
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2017 18:48 |
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the people i've talked to in the local dsa have been good people doing good work and participate in actions and are doing all the right things so i don't think your dumbass posts are in any way representative. but gently caress off with that poo poo
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2017 18:52 |
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Ace of Baes posted:I don't care about other orgs bc they're meaninglessly small and show no signs of trying to change that in any meaningful way, in my experience they care much more about arguing about dead Russians than helping black people so yeah your experience is wrong and it's very dumb to universalize it. namaste
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2017 19:19 |
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yes that is the stereotype. meanwhile here in reality, those parties you are so quick to dismiss are organizing and participating in actions against fascist insects, the carceral state, the police state, and amazingly not giving very much of a poo poo about the other orgs doing the same psl is — right now! — building a dual power organization with tons of affiliated and non-affiliated issue and advocacy groups and it is doubtful they will mention hide nor hair of "dead russians"
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2017 19:28 |
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Thaddius the Large posted:This, however, is a pretty terrible way of going about it, especially in telling a person of color that their experience is wrong, and is doing exactly what you're accusing others of. Socialists have enough trouble with the perception that it's a bunch of white people ignoring issues of race on an organizational level, if not outright discriminating, and doing so on a personal level isn't any better. Rather than shutting down that conversation, we should be open to criticism and feedback, and seek to be more inclusive of how to best advocate for the oppressed. Isn't that kind of why we're all here? it's less "what you see or think isn't real and neither are your concerns" and more "my direct experience has been the exact opposite of that"
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2017 21:31 |
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Raskolnikov38 posted:what exactly are they doing and where are they setting up a dual power situation http://www.congressofresistance.org/call_to_action it's pretty nascent but is showing a lot of promise
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2017 22:14 |
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Annual Prophet posted:now here's an editorial the likes of which i never thought i'd see in a major us newspaper: he cites the victims of communism memorial foundation, an organization funded by fascists that deliberately minimalizes the holocaust for anti-communist purposes
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2017 04:22 |
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right, and the point is he could have picked literally any other source for that information rather than giving that scum pageviews via what must be the biggest platform he's ever gotten
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2017 05:45 |
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Shear Modulus posted:on the list of sunkara's sins i think it's small compared to his keeping connor kilpatrick on jacobin's masthead yeah lol. also almost every article on foreign policy that goes into the magazine
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2017 03:56 |
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jarofpiss posted:we organized a march for the super bowl with the dems and had al green in front of 1000 people chanting "workers of the world unite" lol to clarify for those not from or in houston: al green is a local congressman and not the beloved r&b singer
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2017 14:43 |
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Shear Modulus posted:guys i thought we agreed that deray couldn't join if they let in a snake like molly crabapple there's nothing stopping someone as benign as deray from joining
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 13:48 |
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consumed by normies posted:
im looking forward to the actually funded and functional high speed rail in china. for a good laugh i compared beijing-shanghai to nyc-boston amtrak
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2017 04:33 |
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putting aside the philosophical problems of allowing cops or friends of cops or w/e in an explicitly socialist organization, if you are making any actual effort to challenge the prevailing ideology of the state it's in your org's best interest to self-preserve you don't want to take any risks even if you aren't breaking the law, which dsa most definitely is not
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 01:06 |
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Venom Snake posted:A much higher percentage of veterans I know support single payer than the average person. Should they not be allowed to participate because They Did An Imperialism? you answered your own question by calling them veterans. even so an org needs to take every measure possible to ensure they aren't compromised. hint: it needs democratic centralism
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 01:07 |
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the next dsa convention should have gold fringe around the door just to be safeVenom Snake posted:I don't know what you mean by the former. they're veterans and not soldiers. they're not currently employed as armed representatives of the state. i would be careful about putting them in positions of leadership or authority, regardless
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 01:13 |
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if the election was close the few dozen infiltrators that were definitely there might have helped swing it
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 01:16 |
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gently caress. marry. t-rex posted:i dont think anyone even tangentially related to law enforcement should have access to the complete membership rolls of a radical leftist org what if the dsa....isn't a radical leftist org *stadium full of people cheers, i have dunked the basketball and won the big game*
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 01:26 |
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TomViolence posted:Pretty much because crime under a socialist system that has definitively put capitalism to bed without its supper would be nothing like crime as we know it now. Consequently the approach to managing or combating such crime would require a solution radically different to the forms of police force that have hitherto existed under capitalism. At the very least a drastically less militarised agency whose purview does not include repression of dissenters and minorities, futile drug wars, mass incarceration or frivolously prosecuting property crime. the last four things are a given but idk what you're hoping will happen to the inevitable counter-revolution if not, at the very least, politely repressed. if you're talking about after that, then sure. yes. but that's a stage of socialism that has yet to be achieved in reality anywhere
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 01:30 |
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those people are dumb but, and let me just put this out there: who cares.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 01:38 |
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trots: they're tankies now
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 01:43 |
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everybody is a tankie. that fuckin bird outside looked at me funny. chirped, about stalin probably. tankie
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 01:44 |
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TomViolence posted:well you know the entire uk welfare state was built while slaughtering malayans by the truckload, so it's not exactly inconceivable to think that americans might carry on murdering brown people abroad while making some small concessions to the working class at home you're a tankie now
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 01:50 |
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safely sodomized posted:how did austin dsa think this was a good idea safely sodomized posted:austin
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 05:13 |
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DSAGuidoVoice
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 05:39 |
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when you monetize this i demand half
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 06:11 |
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austin's bad generally but they've also got a history of infiltration (scumbag brandon darby entrapped friends of mine) which makes this lapse all the more surprising
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 06:35 |
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austin members posting in defense of the guy on multiple social media platforms is very bad for the chapter and the org at large
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 07:31 |
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here's the official ranking of texas citiescode:
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 08:21 |
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BrainParasite posted:Sex work is real work and shouldn't be qualified with an "or even".
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Business Gorillas posted:Spiciest Austin Take whatever the spice level it's higher than most white austinites can handle
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