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jarofpiss posted:honestly depends on if you're trying to poison the group with democrat centrism or not. the DSA is a socialist group and you don't have socialism under lovely democrat third wayism. if you want to build a broad based mass movement founded on both democracy and socialism you're totally welcome. I'm a libertarian, so I clearly disagree with like 90% of the dem socialist's economic points. But Trump needs to go down so I'm going to throw the DSA some dirty capitalist money, because anyone fighting the facists deserves all the help they can get. Lord knows most libertarians aren't doing poo poo to take him down. Is it better sent to my local chapter or the central dem soc group?
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Feb 3, 2017 20:53
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Condiv posted:i'm thinking about trying to make a DSA meeting here in france, but i feel dumb even thinking about it. would the dsa even bother with an international chapter (considering i could scrape up 5 expats to do so?) The 5th Internationale???
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RiotGearEpsilon posted:the burger king near there is pretty good, we should unionize it A socialist working for a king?
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Feb 8, 2017 01:18
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DC's member meeting was so full people were in the hallway. There were probably about 150 people there, maybe half of which were new.
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Feb 13, 2017 04:07
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Ace of Baes posted:nice, I'll add this to the OP I'd also recommend signal for encrypted communications. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.thoughtcrime.securesms
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Feb 15, 2017 13:55
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lancemantis posted:Watching people on Facebook reply to questions like "what's your position with regard to X? I'm interested in joining but I need to know first" is kind of annoying. It feels like late capitalism has managed to hit left politics the hardest; people treating these things like commodities. People do this on the right as well. Church shopping is totally a thing for Protestants and has been for a long time. It's human nature to want to want to find a group just like you rather than doing some introspection and considering whether your closely held beliefs are true.
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lessthankyle posted:Most likely. I'm fine with RC, I just want to give them a reason to shut me up. There is a slack, and it was used until Rocket Chat was implemented. Slack just costs too much per user, and the potential 20k+ of users make slack simply unrealistic as like half of the DSA's budget would have to be allocated for slack user fees.
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SomeMathGuy posted:(real talk does anyone right of Trotsky even know what "praxis" is?). That's the Klingon moon that exploded right?
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Mar 15, 2017 18:08
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I personally just call everyone brosef.
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Mar 16, 2017 03:05
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Squat the capitalist class away.
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Mar 16, 2017 16:38
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The AK47 needs Jeb!'S name on it like his handgun.
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Mar 16, 2017 17:30
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Mar 22, 2017 15:03
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an actual dog posted:The DSA is different from other leftist orgs because we have good memes. Joined for the memes, stayed for the class war.
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Ruzihm posted:Whoever finds the facebook link first, you should put it in the "stand in the rain with signs" thread Done
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Jun 26, 2017 20:12
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Raskolnikov38 posted:lol democrats so mad at people chanting at a rally I was just out of frame in that twitter shot to the left and the sour looks we were getting we're incredible.
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Jun 29, 2017 13:23
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Wait, as an attorney do I have to turn in my DSA card 
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Jun 30, 2017 23:49
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Ace of Baes posted:if you arent on the list and youre in the dsa quote this post with what state your from and ill add you to the op DC
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Since when do we deny fellow workers a place in the party?
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gently caress. marry. t-rex posted:since their work is oppression of the people You still need police in a socialist paradise?
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gently caress. marry. t-rex posted:taste my blade My hot take is that people won't stop raping or trying to kill other people just because you collectivize the means of production.
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Tricky Dick Nixon posted:It'd probably be a volunteer civilian group for crime prevention like the Guardian Angels, with all the issues that entails. Socialism removes the need for the police to act as protectors of property, so it allows for a more downgraded form of law and order, but it will likely still exist. You'll also not unlikely see detective services and investigators used to handle arbitration and mediation. Lawyers will also absolutely still exist, I have no doubt, and probably have to have their own investigators and the like. It also all depends on the form of government too and lots of socialists will disagree on that, but this is the more left-libertarian model I'd imagine. Wow, sounds sick. Vigilantes are now the sole police force sounds super awesome and that would surely not go super wrong.
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Agnosticnixie posted:It's funny how the immediate response of the moderates when abolition is brought up is "but what about the ultra violent crimes that are a minority of crimes and that police is absolutely useless at deterring, bad at investigating, and often one of the professions that commits them the most" Because it's an obvious counter-example for why police are needed perhaps? It doesn't even need to be ultra violent poo poo. People will still get in brawls in bars, there will still be family violence, people will still get jealous and try to steal people stuff or stalk other people. Just because you share the means of production doesn't mean all the bad impulses of people go away. And any system that just assumes people will be nearly perfect little angels is doomed to fail.
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Aug 8, 2017 13:21
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Hemingway To Go! posted:Would it be okay to go to a DSA meeting this week if I'm just interested in a more social democracy and not out to get full socialism or communism now and abolish the police force immediately I'm a social democrat as well in my local DSA. We're in there, and for now we have pretty similar goals to the more hardcore socialists so I don't see any issue with it.
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I'm pretty sure even the most socialist of socialists only want to share the capital, not the incidental goods produced by capital. Your neighbor's sailboat isn't going to be shared by everyone, just as your toothbrush and underwear aren't up for your neighbor to come by and grab any time they want. There will still be theft.
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TomViolence posted:I reckon a good, gradualist halfway mark would be replacing the US's system of for-profit hellholes with something more humane and focused on rehabilitation like they have in the nordics, then once that's established and rates of incarceration are driven down through reforming sentencing and prohibition and all that you move onto some kind of probation or community service oriented thing, maybe with vocational training, therapy or education rolled in to give your rehabilitated crim a fresh start in life. This sounds like a good general outline for a plan to reform prisons.
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OhFunny posted:https://twitter.com/brianefallon/status/896442539892408320 "Augustus Invictus"? Really? What kind of name is that?
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OhFunny posted:It's his online handle that in Latin means Majestic Unconquered Sun. His real name is Austin Gillespie. quote:In a press release dated October 5, 2015 Invictus was denounced by the Libertarian Party of Florida, for a paper advocating eugenics and stated aims to start a civil war.[7] Invictus wrote a disclaimer to the eugenics paper stating that while he believes the strong and intelligent should breed and the weak and stupid should not, he does not believe that the government can be trusted to implement such a program.[8][9] On April 7, 2017, the Libertarian Party of Florida, under threat of a defamation lawsuit from Invictus, issued a full retraction of the 2015 press release, stating "that it exceeded the mandate of the executive committee."[10] On July 13, 2017, Invictus changed his party affiliation to Republican.[11] Hmmmmmmmmmmm...
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Syndlig posted:Speaking of, Sept. 2 white supremacists are coming to Austin and planning to hold an armed march on the capitol, where there is a rally of SB4 protesters. Since this is permitted, the cops will be protecting them. It also starts outside the county jail. If you're able to come down to Austin and are arrestable or have medic skills, please keep an ear out. We're trying to get their permit rescinded, and hopefully even failing that it'll be like the June march where it was 50 fascists hiding behind a wall of cops for 3 hours. Have you sought a permit as well? I mean no reason not to.
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Business Gorillas posted:Uhhh yeah I don't like someone pissed at the DSA with relationships to law enforcement being able to sit on the NPC Literally anyone who's unhappy with the stuff going on at the leadership conference could go feed info to police dude. You don't have to be "connected" to do so.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:though to be honest it'd be a way easier sell 90% of the time as reform, refusing to use words in ways that don't cause misunderstandings with the uninitiated is part of the reason leftist activists are a punchline I'm with this. I think the police abolition thing is REALLY dumb. Whenever you challenge a person who's purporting to want it what they really want is not racist/classist law enforcement officers. Everyone recognizes that people are still going to break the law and hurt other people. So what they really want is REFORM to GET RID OF classism and racism in the police not abolition of the police. For some bizarre reason they think the word "police" is is somehow inherently classist/racist for god know's why and just want to abolish that word. It's a real headscratcher of a policy goal to put your whole being behind when you could better achieve your underlying goal of not having racist and classist law enforcement officers by like using words as the population uses them.
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Frijolero posted:"Police reform" means loving nothing. That's Liberal speak for "Uh well, police are bad but what are ya gonna do about it?" If you're using the words as normal people people use them and not using your super secret definition, police reform is exactly what you want. You wouldn't think socialists would be prescriptivists wrt to language but for some reason when it comes to police and prison reform they are 100%.
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Vhak lord of hate posted:There's a group called Cure Violence that does unarmed community based meditation and intervention, areas they focus on see a pretty decent drop in shootings and homicides. Thats a nice alternative for a lot of prison sentences, but not a solution for people actively breaking the law. What do you do for drunk drivers? Dangle a dollar bill in front of their car while running along side? You need to have people who have the authority of the state to detain folks in the process of committing crimes, or catching them after they've done so. That's the police. A rose by any other name and all that.
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Ruzihm posted:"you guys are prescriptivists lol what losers" Most modern English dictionaries approach language descriptively... They get updated as use changes, rather than proscribing how people should or shouldn't use words. That fact that a very small clique of people decided that "abolish" shouldn't actually mean what people generally think it means doesn't mean a whole lot. I mean like literally every time people bring up police abolishment the conversation breaks down into why the gently caress are the people calling for it using their own special snowflake definition for "abolish" which completely wastes yours and everyone you're trying to convince's time. Edit: To put it another way, would your meaning of "abolish" work when applied to the phrase "abolish slavery". Your obviously for abolishing slavery, but do you mean "change slavery in such a way so that it is no longer racist or classist". I certainly hope one would want that phrase to include more than just that regarding abolishing slavery. Nitrousoxide has issued a correction as of 18:33 on May 12, 2018 |
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I went to the Philly DSA meeting after the counter protest was (mostly) over and just caught the motion to limit DSA involvement in future protests. A couple of people did manage to make it to there from the protest and one even offered a speech in opposition to the motion, but it still passed despite a pretty close vote that even requires a precise counting. I don't understanding why that passed out who thought it was a good idea.
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FoneBone posted:we actually have a general meeting in december (which i suspect was hastily scheduled in response to a resolution censuring the steering committee for only scheduling 4 general meetings in 2018 thus far, when a resolution increasing it to 5 had previously passed), and the tabled resolutions from this meeting are supposed to be on the docket then Did you like the part at the end when the parliamentarian just overrode the outstanding motion to specifically table the remaining motions for the next general session and decided to have the body vote on a motion to adjourn instead, which doesn't technically require that anything still on the docket appear at the next meeting?
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achillesforever6 posted:Yeah I also liked meeting the people who were in the Ecosoc working group even though I personally disagree with stuff on Nuclear and demechanization Wait, people are OPPOSING nuclear power and opposing mechanization of production???
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PawParole posted:why doesn’t the DSA set up branches in other countries? We could have the DSA-Canada, DSA-Ireland,DSA-Russia etc. Like some sort of Internationale DSA.
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