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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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RiotGearEpsilon posted:

I'm apparently the only guy in the thread who's unimpressed by the Abolish Police platform
The Ludwig von Mises Institute will probably love it though

Eh it's an ideal I would like but pretty utopian.

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 06:48 on Jul 25, 2017

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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My advice for what it's worth is socialism without leftists signaling to other leftists how left-wing they are. Though that also risks sounding vague and it's a tall order...

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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I'd say "democratic control of the police" and not "abolish the police." The police serve necessary functions but they should serve the public and not brutalize it.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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u know who had police?

THE USSR

that's right

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/892410512880926721

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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the numbers are one thing but "biggest since WWII" is an interesting anecdote

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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https://twitter.com/brutapologist/status/892406910917517312

https://twitter.com/brutapologist/status/892411196015509504

https://twitter.com/brutapologist/status/892414237666156544

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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my anecdotal view of this is there are a whole bunch of little communist orgs that don't like the DSA

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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wait this guy isn't even a cop? lol

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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jarofpiss posted:

was at one point in time cop adjacent as far as i know
a cop helped me change my tire on the side of the highway once.

at one point in my life, i called the police, too.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Loving Life Partner posted:

exigent maladaptive behaviors cultivated in the system of exploitation and class antagonism liberal capitalism creates and police enforce.
i have no idea what these words mean

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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*stands up to address the DSA*

I.... I... ahh...

I am... a gamer.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Venom Snake posted:

I regret to inform everyone that the Posadists have been infiltrated by military service dolphins
lmao

hell yeah

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Zeroisanumber posted:

How'd that brawl go in Portland?
wait what were the trots doing outside

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Business Gorillas posted:

unironically yelling about how DSA killed rosa
maaaaaan

man oh man

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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el presidente! trotskyists are growing discontented with your rule. build more police stations to suppress them or colleges to distract them. time is of the essence!

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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we all live in our own gulags

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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you can't like, own CSPAM, man

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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like trump, i will need a summary of the socialist infighting in a single page with bullet-point format with lots of pictures. essays with marxist jargon or tweet threads longer than (3) tweets won't do. thank you.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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gently caress. marry. t-rex posted:

im more worried about people who arent internet memelords, aka most of the populace
this i think gets at DSA's big problem

no not the police thing but the personalistic social thing. i've never listened to chapo

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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"Now, anyway." What a bunch of yahoos. What a mobocracy.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og80U3R5n8E

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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quote:

Toward evening the direct charges against Ross were made, not by the leaders of the Party, but by Ross's friends, those who knew him best! It was crushing. Ross wilted. His emotions could not withstand the weight of the moral pressure. No one was terrorized into giving information against him. They gave it willingly, citing dates, conversations, scenes. The black mass of Ross's wrongdoing emerged slowly and irrefutably.

The moment came for Ross to defend himself. I had been told that he had arranged for friends to testify in his behalf, but he called upon no one. He stood, trembling; he tried to talk and his words would not come. The hall was as still as death. Guilt was written in every pore of his black skin. His hands shook. He held on to the edge of the table to keep on his feet. His personality, his sense of himself, had been obliterated. Yet he could not have been so humbled unless he had shared and accepted the vision that had crushed him, the common vision that bound us all together.

"Comrades," he said in a low, charged voice, "I'm guilty of all the charges, all of them."

His voice broke in a sob. No one prodded him. No one tortured him. No one threatened him. He was free to go out of the hall and never see another Communist. But he did not want to. He could not. The vision of a communal world had sunk down into his soul and it would never leave him until life left him. He talked on, outlining how he had erred, how he would reform.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Defining who is and isn't a worker in a socialist organization opens up a :can:

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Serf posted:

what would cops in a socialist society even be like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK-VIe0iSQA

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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jarofpiss posted:

he voted for prison/police abolition btw
hmm... sounds suspicious. better kick him out just to be sure.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Mmmmmm that is some sweet Texas tribalism. Sweet like the sound of a cricket in the fall on a warm night.

*unseathes cavalry sword*

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 16:50 on Aug 11, 2017

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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jarofpiss posted:

actually it owns lol and he is so red and mad
it's true this guy should become the DSA supremo IMHO

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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ThndrShk2k posted:

Influencing reactionary actions based off from optics and misinformation to bypass the democratic process is a well known tactic in undermining an organization.

An undermined socialist organization is without meaningful power.
Trot dirty tricks if you ask me

*waves cavalry sword feverisly*

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Agean90 posted:

The natural state of the Texan is mad.
Texans actually tend to get real quiet when they get mad usually until it boils over and then kaboom.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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fully automated luxury gay space danny

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JauB3k4-tZQ

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Hell yeah sign me up

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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I have found the DSA in the flesh. They smelled nice.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Yeah I went to a joint IWW-ISO-DSA rally. IWW has the best speakers IMO

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Tricky Dick Nixon posted:

I was surprised to find there isn't a local John Brown Gun Club here in Tulsa, but I'm definitely interested in changing that.
hey i'm in ntx and the IWW folks here are talking like this we should communique

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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oh yeah. well the gun thing i imagine as a bonding / get-together thing.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Thug Lessons posted:

Sometimes when I'm thinking "gosh the DSA isn't left enough for me", I like to be reminded what the alternatives are.

https://twitter.com/PSLSanDiego/status/896853783090577408
Oh cripes. Yeah. Well IMO a better use of their time instead of whining like that is to pull up one of those pro-Stalin films made by Hollywood during World War II.

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Union troops fired on pro-Confederate mobs in Baltimore as they marched south at the beginning of the war, so yeah.

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