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ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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North Florida goon dues paying member :toot:

ThatBasqueGuy has issued a correction as of 23:00 on Jan 31, 2017

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ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Please don't doxx me

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Tallahassee (FL) OC committee checking in, meeting this Friday to form :toot:

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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logikv9 posted:

:siren: Hello DSA thread. :siren: Your lovely OP has organized a gangtag for those of you who have donated a minimum of $5 to the DSA, if you choose to have it.



If you would like it, please quote this post along side proof of a donation of sufficient quantity. Proof can be simply quoting an older post you made previously that itself contained donation proof, or if you are a new donor that wants it, quote this post alongside proof of that donation.

I can nearly guarantee that your title will be safe and sound underneath your avatars within five (5) business days, or whenever I check this thread, really. :hai:

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Official OC Status soon :toot:

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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OhFunny posted:

Tallahassee, FL

:toot: Pretty excited. I'm pretty sure we'll be a chapter shortly after tomorrow's OC meeting, the facebook chat is already growing like a virus.

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Is this over making fun of the Wayne Foundation?

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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*snaps overall straps* well dem city lickers ain't comin' down to my town to tell me 'bout how my com-un-i-tee works, I tell ya wuhawt!

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Slanderer posted:

except this time instead of FBI subterfuge it's the vile Hoxhaist saboteurs

What are they gonna do, build a bunker in my backyard?

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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If we all came together and embraced nuclear holocaust, we'd be feeling a lot more solidarity around these parts

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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I move to settle this by having two champions duel in an MMA match

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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logikv9 posted:

reminder that due to the pace of the thread that gangtags will be via PM only thanks

Mods once again discriminating against low-wage posters that may not have access to such bougie plat features

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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R. Guyovich posted:

UPDATE: i pushed one of the two buttons and am now being force fed all the grain in the ukraine and northern caucasus. i did my best, folks

Someone's gotta host the demons of the Holodomor

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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No one, just sieze their blockchains remotely

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Definitely a cop

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Why stop at two states? If you look at current placement of settlements in the west bank, you could easily make three or four states there alone. Add Gaza as its own thing, suddenly you're cooking with bantustans

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Can we define "long post history" so I know how many posts I need to nuke to stay in both in groups?

Also hit me up with incorporation info, my Locals been dancing around it as well and I'm apparently the treasurer, so Imma try my best to not gently caress it up!!

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Me: we're entering a new gilded age, but maybe even worse somehow, shits gonna get rough
also me: who the fukc cares about major labor orgs in the gilded age, let's talk some real poo poo

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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I was always under the impression everyone getting jailed during WW1 for actually staying pacifist killed their momentum more than anything else

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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hey can we post cool projects or methods for building a better society in intrathread solidarity rather than being snippy n poo poo. Thread needs a self-accountability tool where you get a 6er if you haven't done poo poo locally in the recent past.

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Meanwhile in Tallahassee, we have to figure out where to store 170K lb of frozen and 80K lb of thawing chicken donated by Tyson. Real rear end poultry hours

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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R. Dieovich posted:

it's almost like the question of theory v. practice was discussed just as vociferously over a hundred years ago and some of the answers to these questions can be found in the dreaded books the people in those discussions wrote

Sounds inherently biased towards the "books" crowd if you ask me

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Ace of Baes posted:

if y'all folx can't be intersectional and elevate the voices of trans womxn of color and non bianary folx in your Twitter feed why are you even in the DSA

why are you so loving brokebrain, it's not that hard to either show basic solidarity with ya fellow traumatized comrades or at least shut the gently caress up

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Ace of Baes posted:

Also I'm not sure what's so sinister about them wanting to take power, that's literally the point of politics and forming ideological caucuses, are we pretending that the other caucuses don't want themselves/their allied tendencies controlling the future of the DSA?

Momentum seems like the only caucus worried about splitters for some reason :thunk:

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Proud member of the "we should use nationals funds and open a bar coop" slate

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Internet Explorer posted:

I'm really curious to hear what "builds socialism" if M4A doesn't "build socialism."

Mutual Aid and counter institution building, ez clap nerd

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Business Gorillas posted:

just heard in my steering cmte meeting that the convention is in atlanta in the first week of august?

i'm midwest as hell so i'm assuming i'll combust when i get off the plane

*glares southernly, gingerly luging out a hunk of phlegm and tobacco spit into a nearby spitoon* drat yankees

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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The problem I have is that even the well reasoned, well thought out arguments in favor of the purchase (which I find valid and good faith, don't get me wrong) still haven't fully convinced me of the utility of the tool over buying 150K of nth market student debt for a fraction of a dollar per and getting rid of it.

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Tricky Dick Nixon posted:

Could you elaborate more on what that would look like? Because I think that's a very interesting idea and would like to know more!

Honestly not sure myself, given I had seen it as someone's "furthermore carthage must be destroyed" on the discussion forums. My broad understanding of how that market works is that the org would come in the place of one of those tertiary debt collectors that buy the right to collect way overdue debts from primary/other secondary holders/collectors, but instead of harassing these people for the rest of their lives we'd abolish/forgive/refuse to collect the debt as the debtholder and then send them a nice letter telling them to not worry about it anymore. I'm pretty sure this would only apply to private loans, as I don't think the fed loans get put into secondary markets in the first place.

I could also have no understanding of student debt markets specifically, but as said above the principle for this is the same with a lot of stuff, can do the same with medical etc...

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Big Dick Cheney posted:

As a professional computer toucher, it is actually not that hard to pull a membership number from a database

How often have you worked with punch cards and vacuum tubes?

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Alternatively, stay at yearly and just dump 100% of what you would've spent to local dues instead :v:

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Paid national staff can't kill yer landlord

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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what the gently caress are we even talking about at this point

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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First off, what the gently caress is wrong with this thread and it's regular posters, Christ, y'all go off on some wild rear end bullshit.

Second, lemon pepper wings are the real deal, and y'all missed out if you didn't have any while conning it up.

Showed up Friday afternoon after everyone was already tuckered out from the earlier procedural ratfucking, had some cool convos and met some cool comrades, but afaik basically nothing of substance other than the status quo is gonna come from this con, tho I'd love (?) to be wrong on that one. So really it was mostly an excuse for everyone to play model UN/manufacture consent of sorts and drink heavily given the amount of poo poo effectively pushed to NPC. Lot of good lessons to be learned w.r.t. the power of controlling the agenda, floor, and the other surrounding powers/institutions of a Congress. Or rather, good lessons if you're a stupid newbie like myself :v:

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Internet Explorer posted:

The main thing that I took away from the convention is that we need some way of having these conversations and voting on them that isn't once every 2 years.

Agreed. The whole thing is inherently exclusive to a degree already, and that there was too little time to do a fraction of what was needed to cover shows how many peeps have been effectively excluded from decision making on various levels.

Also LMFAO if y'all aren't paying .80c/yr to national and seeding the rest into your local as needed

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Imagine not paying .80c/year to national

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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So what's the deal with all these wolves in DSA anyhow?

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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unbutthurtable posted:

so did the NPC just hire someone to be the national election compliance lawyer who is:

a) australian (only relevant if they didn't go to law school in the US, but I'm not sure if that's the case)
b) not passed the bar
c) has zero experience in election law
d) all of the above

the answer may not surprise you...

Sounds fake so I know it's true

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Unbelievably Fat Man posted:

I'm not really sure justice is in the cards for this; dropping bangers that will humiliate people and terrify them out of organizing spaces are the best that can be hoped for in this situation.

This is another of DSA's recurring systemic problems. If national isn't willing to take harassment and grievances and on the other side restorative justice seriously this bullshit is going to be nearly impossible to root out. It's going to continue burning people out. It's going to make sure DSA can't form a cohesive and powerful organ of working class power.

We need to make our organizing spaces welcoming and safe for vulnerable people and as long as we have individuals and factions that care more about their own power within the org versus the power of the org on society itself these problems will perpetuate themselves. This is a lot of slow, boring, unglamorous work, but it's necessary. If we actually want to have power we need to build up systems of restorative justice and conflict mediation. And, barring that, if we have bad actors who don't want justice, we need them the gently caress away from vulnerable people.

Hell, right now I'm as involved in DSA as I've ever been, pretty much on the back of taking over for people who massively burned out because of harassment and indifference from formal and informal power structures. I hope I can nudge DSA in a good and useful direction. Regardless, I've built up skills and relationships with activists and organizations with potential for the future.

basically all of this

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ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

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Staunchly defending Russia from attacks by liberals in the very real hope that the Commonwealth of Independent States magically turns red and unites the world

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