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Evernoob posted:Netflix still isn't announcing Season 2 .... hope I don't have to stream it from somewhere else... April for Netflix.
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I see Naomi is/was wearing one of those new disappearing sports bras. Nice to see, or rather not see, they are becoming popular. 
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Feb 2, 2017 12:55
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Milky Moor posted:There was a slight time lapse in the scene between Naomi and Holden. They go from half nude to completely naked when the camera is looking through the door. Holden pressed the Invisibutton™ on her FutureBra, it's an evolution of the see through of today.
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Feb 2, 2017 13:27
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It's AQUA not agua. As in the Latin for water. 
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Feb 8, 2017 23:27
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AlternateAccount posted:Really? It sounds a lot like a G when he yells it. No other Spanish in the show tho... I just rewatched it with my partner and the phonetic sound the belter shouts is definately akwa.
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Feb 9, 2017 00:42
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Eros is drat big peanut. It would take a hilarious amount of energy just to slow it, and all that would do is alter it's orbit a little bit. As it is a live (moving) load you are talking about an n (2?) body problem, so you have to stop the spin first, then stop the delta-v relative to the sun and it still wouldn't have had much effect. They mentioned that spinning up Eros was a milestone for humanity in the belt and only topped by spinning Ceres up. It was a stupid idea that would never have worked. Stupid plans dont work in the world of the Expanse. I think this is a thematic failure rather than it could never have worked anyway. They didn't "do the math" at all. They did the dramatics well enough though.
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Feb 21, 2017 07:50
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That is to say, it would not work like a satellite that orbits the earth. Earth orbiting satellites are still within the atmosphere of the Earth itself, which extends out a very very long way. So those satellites still need some impulse to keep them in orbit or their velocity will degrade, which means they start to fall back to earth. Eros is orbiting the sun by means of the gravity curve around the sun, as it is very small so far out then the period is so very much slower, that is that the rock is very slowly falling towards the sun, but because of the curve of space it never gets any closer.
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Feb 21, 2017 16:29
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Isn't there the almost exact same type of banter while they are on Gannymede? Before Caliban attempts to rape Miranda?
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Feb 28, 2017 09:08
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Yes. Dawes is back.
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Mar 6, 2017 21:01
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They were previously an item. Bit of trivia, Muss (or Mus) is Old English for mouse. Dawes running to Ganymede is motivation for the Roci crew to go there. Hopefully the show version of Marco. With Marco removed altogether. The whole history there and his relationships are gigantic, and very hard to swallow, coincidences]/spoiler] that needed half a [spoiler]book to explain. Replacing him with Dawes would make perfect sense. Dawes asking when Diago was born and saying that he ran with the same crew about then implies that could be his father, so he could replace Filip.. Dawes was probably manipulating him though.
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Mar 10, 2017 18:13
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emanresu tnuocca posted:and saw her friends torn to shreds. She was their CO, and she let them die. She let them down and they died. She lived and now has PTSD and survivor's guilt. jfood posted:Why must every work of... I dunno... speculative and/or supernatural fiction... be required to have one sad-brained warrior woman waifu? WHY!?! It's almost like women suffer from the same consequences as men in the same circumstances. Like the gender isn't the main thing factor, it is the role. It would be more realistic for her to wear a rainbow jumpsuit, call her friends, and have a girl's night out. Talking and dancing her problems away.
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Mar 11, 2017 15:08
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Toast Museum posted:Responding to "[historical figure] was racist/sexist/whatever" with "well, that's just how things were back then" serves to inflate our esteem for people we might otherwise have a more mixed opinion of. Also, it ignores the fact that various forms of bigotry, while they were often more socially acceptable than they are today, were not universal; there were people pushing back against it, and "that's just what it was like in those days" can serve to minimize their efforts. You would have totally done it differently, of course.
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Mar 14, 2017 17:25
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ZorajitZorajit posted:My roommate tore into belter creole last night. Initially I was defensive, because nerd social fallacies, but I'm pretty sure he's not wrong. He felt like the show was doing a disservice by having it, that the characters sound stupid -- both that the speech sounds asinine and that it makes the characters seem unintelligent. That belter-speak is questionably racially charged, relying on some of the queues of stereotypical African American Vernacular English. And that the series would be more seriously considered if it didn't have to have it's own con-lang, a decidedly pulp-fiction inclusion for annoying con-going fans. Your roommate is a navel gazing tryhard knob, tell him that for me? AA Vernacular English? I once saw an american on telly who described a black English actor as an African American Englishman. I will admit that reading the incoherent verbiage on page was painful and they should dial it back a bit. I would be more than happy to sacrifice authentic speech for something I can understand. So that I can follow what is going on? Half of my displease for the Free Navy scenes was because for their conversation was hard to follow. I just skipped most of it. Hardly spoilers but this is TVIV and people Collateral fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Mar 15, 2017 |
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Mar 15, 2017 15:36
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The most convincing part is the signing that the belters use. It makes a lot of sense. The creole is just local colour to distinguish them as the other.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:14
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Number Ten Cocks posted:Exotic! It's always a rare pleasure to hear the deep insights of a man who managed to develop a background in English. Or read a post by someone who has a background in idiocy.
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Mar 15, 2017 21:59
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Edit away....You can see the Martian Marines that Mei is waving at, nice attention to detail there. Solid ep there. <3 Drummer takes no poo poo. Collateral fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Mar 16, 2017 |
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Mar 16, 2017 10:31
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vermin posted:I wonder if Mars is footing the bill for Ganymede so they can have a greater presence in the Belt than Earth or if they're just doing it because they don't want a war that badly. But asking a question like that borders on asking book people for spoilers. With the exception of one event, Martian politics has had more screen time on show than in the books, so far. The reality is, the authors haven't bothered telling us anything other than, they (Why? For what reason? They never explained this.) have better scientists, and better ships (Again why do they have better ships? They were built more recently? Did Earth just stop building ships?).
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Mar 27, 2017 17:16
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Baronjutter posted:Terraforming I know is this sacred thing to Martians but they have like 7 billion people living quite well without a blue sky. The priorities are keeping living conditions for those on basic stable, raising conditions in the belt, then terraforming mars with what's left over. Earth can become a utopian paradise, mars can get terraformed, and the belt can be raised up to a new system-wide guaranteed standard of living. It is a fudge, if they didn't have the project they would have a lot of unemployed people just like earth. Which brings us back to why the Martian propaganda is flawed, surely the UN have a lot of unemployed people lying about to help clean the place up? Number Ten Cocks posted:Selection effects, a disproportionate percentage of Martians are smart, energetic people. They had to be, to save up and decide to go or be worth it for an employer to sponsor them. They also have environmental effects driving their culture towards more effort and ingenuity.  I once read an EE Doc Smith book, probably Skylark, where the protagonist harped on about how the USA would always be ahead of Europe intellectually, because all the talent emigrated there, as it was the intelligent thing to do, like self selecting geographical eugenics. It was bullshit then and it is bullshit now and would be just as much of a steaming pile of poo poo in this future. This kind of genetic, intellectual determinism is pure quackery. Away with you. They could have just said that living at 1/3g increases brain capacity, since we just don't know if that would be true, yet.Still doesn't explain the ships, those stealth mini-ships that Mao built, poo poo all over the pride of the Martian navy, and they were built by/in/on Earth. Earth has the money, technology, and capacity to embarrass Mars. The authors haven't given us a good reason why Mars is better, other than we said so. There is a lot of that where Mars is concerned. Like 7 billion Martians, and all of them serve?. 
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Mar 28, 2017 14:56
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I decided to work out how many Martian would be serving in their military if everybody has to serve. If we are super conservative it would mean 400m-500m service personnel, aged 18-26, not including career soldiers. That seems like...a lot.
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Mar 29, 2017 19:30
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Daktari posted:The Errenwright confession; is it a fake out? Yeah, he handed over a lot of intel Adersevala (sp) didn't have, but I don't trust the bugger To be fair the show has been at pains to present him coming to the realisation that he has been dropped like so much flaming dog poo, and that Eros made him reassess his priorities. He is cutting a deal as best he can. There is zero chance that the 2nd in command of Earth would be put on trial for anything during a time of heightened tension/war with Mars. Oh and Caliban is the son of Sycorax, a deformed child (possibly the counter character of Puck). Wikipedia "The Tempest" by William Shakespeare posted:After his island becomes occupied by Prospero and his daughter Miranda, Caliban is forced into servitude. While he is referred to as a calvaluna or mooncalf, a freckled monster, he is the only human inhabitant of the island that is otherwise "not honour'd with a human shape" (Prospero, I.2.283). In some traditions he is depicted as a wild man, or a deformed man, or a beast man, or sometimes a mix of fish and man. Caliban is a Cambion, the half-human son of Sycorax by (according to Prospero, though this is not confirmed) a devil. Banished from Algiers, Sycorax was left on the isle, pregnant with Caliban, and died before Prospero's arrival. The name refers to the PM monster and how they make the monsters and I assume the attempted rape of Miranda was the attack on the Marines/Bobbie. That could make Bobbie Miranda in that analogy. Collateral fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Mar 31, 2017 |
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Mar 31, 2017 13:25
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I thought the first step in terraforming mars is run a bunch of Oort objects (very large space icebergs/spaceberg?) into it. What would be the next step?
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Apr 1, 2017 12:12
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Phobophilia posted:a few more notes When we have a closed artificial system like Gannymede, with associated experts and jargon, then I will let you know. It does sound technically probable, but I am no agritech.
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Apr 1, 2017 14:34
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Grand Fromage posted:So I'm listening to the podcast and the authors just said the people we saw this episode are NOT on Basic, they are unregistered. The guy on the med school waiting list may be an exception who's there trying to help. He couldn't get into a digital learning program because? I can't think of a good reason other than access to a terminal. Bits/bytes don't exactly cost much if anything. Or he was lying. Or it was just pathos play for Bobbie.
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Apr 2, 2017 06:34
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Holden is someone playing Mass Effect as a pure Paragon with the occasional accidental Renegade. That's why he seems so boring compared to the rest of the crew. Why is he called Holden and the others by their first names*? Even Naomi (nobody calls her Nagata), the woman who is having sexy times with him, calls him Holden. Also he is always wrong about the small and medium things. If he makes a snap decision they should always do the opposite. It would make for some interesting comedy. *This is also true of other characters, like Avasarala (always Chrisjen or Madam Whateverhertitleis) and Errinwright (is always that). Interestingly Fred Johnson is almost always referred to as Fred Johnson. That is until he is christened Fred "Motherfucking" Johnson. At the end of S3 I assume 
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Apr 5, 2017 20:04
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Kazinsal posted:Maybe he doesn't like his first name? Is your family Scottish or of that origin? My family is the same, only if there are multiple boys, the second and third born get: William, Robert or John (whichever was not the fathers name). We have a family tree that goes back to the 13th century and its always the same. It can get super confusing at weddings.
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Apr 5, 2017 20:17
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I dunno, I go by my middle name because I have the same first name as my father, grandfather, and great-grandfather (actually now that I think of it, two great-grandfathers).
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Bubbacub posted:He's an unaligned rear end in a top hat in a boat that happens to be obviously Martian-built, which would make him either a defector or a hijacker... None. It was a black ops boat but hardly something they can deny.
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Apr 13, 2017 16:29
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Probably best not to push their luck, they are clear.
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Apr 13, 2017 16:44
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Baronjutter posted:How come Naomi can speak clearly and use real words while most belters all talk in their heavy dialect? Is she code shifting when around real humans vs belters? There were a few scenes where she was trying to relate to some lower class belters and suddenly she adopted all their accent and slang but around the Rocci she talks properly. Probably from her time on the Cant. Her workmates probably got sick of it and got her some elocution lessons.
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Apr 13, 2017 18:15
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Subyng posted:I dont think errinwright was pretending. From his point of view his life is basically over once it goes to the courts, so he doesn't exactly have anything to lose by betraying avasarala. This is basically his last ditch attempt at trying to salvage the situation. The turning/flip point was when she told him she was meeting with Mao. He got a bit jelly.
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Apr 14, 2017 01:36
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The Jasper thing is a bit stupid though? They just decided that nah we want to keep the character. A spear through the chest is no biggy.
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Apr 17, 2017 00:31
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Did the book do it logically though? Spoilers for next season If the whole of the ship was transported at once, then that means every part of the ship is affected by the slow zone entirely, including maneo. He should have had as much inertia as every atom of the ship including the hydrogen and oxygen in the air. Which by all rights should have ignited on being crushed if it didnt. What about the fixtures? How deep into the hull does the slow field penetrate. By rights his ship should have exploded after being turned into a disc of pure nutronium one atom thick. The amount of kinetic energy his ship had and it 100% transfered into only Maneo? Humph. Not hard sci-fi, but cool sounding sci-fi.
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Jun 24, 2017 11:05
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Combat Pretzel posted:Rewatching the second season again. When Johnson holds that speech with all the clans, a certain clan is named loudly and there isn't even any flinching from specific parties. I'm kinda hoping Marco just ends up as a "trusted" lieutenant of Dawes, who would be a far, far better mastermind for coming apocalypse. With fine actor and an established fanatic character.
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Sep 13, 2017 11:01
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Platystemon posted:All the human-built structures on Eros and the very rock itself would crumble under the forces involved. It could possibly have something to do with the higgs field. 
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Sep 29, 2017 12:43
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Smiling Jack posted:I loving hated the peaches redemption arc. Filip also. gently caress that noise Brainwashed children raised to worship their demigod megacorp solar system dominating ceo father, do stupid things because they believe stupid things in the belief they are doing good by their worship figure. A story older than the bible.
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Why did they write a time jump then? They must have a completely different ending for the TV show in mind. They are not even up to end of the second book yet. This one has got to end with the opening of the gates. If the plan is for 5 seasons where do they go from there? I'm going to spoiler the speculation, don't read it if you don't want to know the plot of future books. Are they going to have earth bombed and the martians through the gates in the first episode, spend half the season killing Marco and saving earth with the martians coming back in their new ships in the latter half? Or something entirely different? At what point can they end the show satisfactorily?
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