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Krakox posted:the one thing that Got Me in episode 1 was the MMC death chant about how they're going to destroy earth. That loving ruled. WHO WILL DRINK THE RIVERS AND CRUSH THE MOUNTAINS Minor spoiler, but I just can't pass up the chance to be sarcastic here: A certain Martian marine gets a shitload less hawkish once she gets a tour of the homeworld, and realises Mother Earth has no problems crushing her right the gently caress back.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:And you even see the starfield moving sideways opposite of the direction the station's spin, what could possibly make someone fall downwards in that situation. Am I missing something here? What was supposed to happen?
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Feb 6, 2017 15:54
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:He should have been flung along the trajectory the stars in the background are going. He probably should have been flung at a bit of an angle because of coriolis, but any spin fast enough to simulate gravity would fling him mostly outwards/downwards.
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Feb 6, 2017 16:11
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flosofl posted:Centrifugal is a "psuedo force" that only exists within the rotational frame. I thought that'd be simpler/more familiar way to explain what was happening.
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Feb 6, 2017 16:24
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That's actually one of the biggest problems I have with Tycho. Docking at the outer edge of a spinning object like that would be very difficult, if not completely impossible. The docks should be at a hub in the centre.
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Feb 6, 2017 17:45
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Subyng posted:It would make sense if they were moving tangent to the ring, then thrusted forward when they lined up with the docking port. From the gifs it looks like they solved the problem by having gimbals "catch" the ship as it sweeps past. That must be a bit teeth rattling though, to say the least (in reality it'd probably tear the ship in two). I still give the series a 9/10 for trying this poo poo when no one else would even bother. I fell in love with it when Miller poured his whiskey in the brothel in season 1, and the Coriolis effect caused it to spiral sideways into the glass. That's attention to detail.
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Feb 6, 2017 21:23
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Phanatic posted:That was a gross exaggeration of how much the Coriolis effect would come into play there. I mean, if there's that much of an effect over that short a distance the difference in acceleration between your head and your feet would make just living there enormously uncomfortable; "down" would be a different direction at each point along your body. In reality a station as big as Ceres rotating at the speed it would need to rotate for that level of force, Coriolis effects over the distance that small would be small enough to be swamped by things like air currents, you'd never notice it pouring whiskey into a glass. The brothel is in one of the poor parts of town, close to the centre of the asteroid. It's a cheap place to live because the coriolis effects are so uncomfortable. If you notice later on, Miller pours a glass of water in the governor's office and the water actually flows straight down. The governor and all the other rich well-wallers live close to the edge, where you can hardly notice coriolis effects at all.
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I don't know about a gif, but the wiki has a screenshot. http://expanse.wikia.com/wiki/Coriolis_Effect  edit: although that's not the scene I was talking about, this is: 
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FuriousxGeorge posted:I have to imagine that as an alcoholic Earther I would have a really frustrating time if I went up into the belt. Here's the scene in the governor's office I was talking about :  Same station, no visible coriolis fuckery. It's a really neat and subtle way to demonstrate the class differences on Ceres.
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Feb 7, 2017 00:41
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We didn't exactly cover a lot of book material last season. Not that I'm complaining, but maybe they were told to hurry poo poo along.
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Collateral posted:It's AQUA not agua. As in the Latin for water. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agua AlternateAccount posted:No other Spanish in the show tho... Sasa ke. tooterfish fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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Feb 8, 2017 23:30
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Platystemon posted:If we’re lucky there will be none, so we can debate if the 6′ Samoan boxer is really the best the casting department could find. He'd have to wear a wig, obviously.
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ZorajitZorajit posted:I can't imagine that an anime was the origin of it
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No complaints, although I thought he'd be older. I might be misremembering though, it's been years since I read the first book.
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flosofl posted:It was specifically called out in this last episode that Mars has superior ships. Given the MCR's training and operating in 1G *and* the fact they're all the same specieis when you get right down to it, I can't imagine Earth having any real advantage other than sheer numbers. Martian ships are more advanced than Earth ones, but we're not talking nuclear submarine versus ironclad more advanced. Earth ships can still hurt them just fine. And we've seen that spending generations pushing around comparatively helpless belters has made Martians arrogant to the point of sheer loving stupidity. The Martian flagship got its poo poo pushed in in the first real fight it ever found itself in. You could say the same of Earth, but Earth has the numbers to absorb the losses and learn the lessons. All in all, I think Earth would win a protracted fight. Unless Mars started throwing rocks at Earth, but I don't think a culture bent on bringing a dead planet to life could ever countenance such a thing.
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Feb 11, 2017 16:16
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Platystemon posted:It’s legitimate salvage.
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Feb 16, 2017 23:41
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Phobophilia posted:As Dresden said, aliens put a payload of PM on board a rock we now call Phoebe, and fired it at the solar system.
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Feb 17, 2017 17:28
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I liked this episode, it was good. This thread is turning into Guantanamo for metaphors though.
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Feb 25, 2017 12:24
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Baronjutter posted:Also why are ships blowing up a bunch of soy bean farms?? Was shouting "NO MY BEANS!!!" every time one of those big farms got destroyed. Is it all protogen once again trying to start a war and spooping the UN and Mars ? I don't think they were shooting at them deliberately, they were just getting caught in the crossfire. Earth and Mars now have about a million years of bad luck each. 
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Xealot posted:What I mean is, "his ship worked for a bit and then exploded" is just as rational a conclusion as, "his magic engine worked perfectly...too well, because the g-load killed him." I guess there could've been some trackable nav data indicating how far he got. They know exactly where the ship is, even now... they just can't catch it.
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 zomg bookspoilers! But yeah, it's Drummer.
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R-Type posted:Meh, any good engineer would have put a timed limit to the burn, and or put a dead mans switch to cut it off with. Waverunners from our time have a dead man's switch. Still a good origin story though. 
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enraged_camel posted:I hope we get to see the tiny forearm mounted miniguns in action. They looked pretty cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r42q6l49Bb4
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Fun fact about Mars: it has a ~24 hour day. We see the middle/upper class areas of Ceres have an artificial sky in season 1. I can't remember if we've seen them cycle between a day and night scene, but it'd be easily done. 
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reagan posted:Goddamn, I just finished the 1st season and the show is as good as people claimed. It sounds like it intensifies in season 2? Do I get more Mars and more stuff like the Donnager fight? They got a new showrunner for season 2. He really wanted to capture the tween crowd, so the show has pivotted pretty hard towards that demographic. There's a lot of angst, worrying about clothes, some pretty on point messaging about bullying and acceptance, and it looks like the season climax is going to be a dance off. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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Baronjutter posted:What I don't think makes a lot of sense is Naomi suddenly having "split loyalties" drama. In season 1 she expressed a lot of resentment towards the OPA and saw them as separate from or even antagonistic towards the actual needs of belters. Then after spending a lot of time working with Holden and a diverse crew who "do the right thing" as part of a bigger non-nationalistic picture she suddenly gets all patriotic and loyal towards a piece of poo poo like Dawes?? Just out of nowhere she becomes an OPA partisan? It feels like a switch was flipped just to create drama and tension.
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Baronjutter posted:He's been extremely duplicitous and utterly immoral. You can't trust anything he says and he will betray and backstab anyone and anything, sacrifice anyone, all while feeling perfectly justified because of his "cause". I imagine him with actual power over a more independant belt becoming more of a Slobodan Milošević or Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev than a Nelson Mandela or Václav Havel. The pretense of "just doing what it takes to win freedom for my people" pretense would be dropped and it would be a lovely corrupt kleptocracy masked by appeals to "belter culture" and held in place with brutality, purges, and even genocide. I can see how that might push her back towards sympathising with the OPA, and temporarily blind her to the reasons she left those sympathies behind in the first place. I'm not saying she's being rational. I'm saying she's angry and afraid and Dawes is nominally on her side.
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Parallels between the IRA and Sinn Fein have been drawn before now, if that helps. Fred is trying to legitimise the OPA politically, but he's not quite there in the show yet. It's more of an open secret he leads an OPA faction than anything else, Tycho Station is still technically under the control of the Tycho corporation. That's why he needed those missiles as leverage to get to the negotiating table with Earth and Mars. Ironically, Dawes ousting the Earth governor and being put in charge of Ceres has given the OPA more legitimacy than any of Fred's gambits up to now.
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Doesn't that make the Protomolecule the Romans?
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Uh, Miller didn't get friendzoned. He wore her down with negs like "YOU'RE AN ASTEROID NOW". Playa.
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Platystemon posted:If it’s an automaton, it also follows that it cannot be a victim, so the Caliban metaphor doesn’t make sense either way around. edit: didn't read the whole thread. tooterfish fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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Eiba posted:I was talking about those small solid chunks of rock and metal that are out there.
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Error 404 posted:E: the "fighter pilots are also infantry/special forces for some reason" was pretty In Star Trek, Babylon 5 and Battlestar Galactica (original and reboot!), starship bridge crews all moonlight as Seal Team Six for some inexplicable reason.
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, even when it first aired.
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Elias_Maluco posted:The whole thing is very confusing I guess Wouldn't be so bad, but I distinctly remember them making a big thing about how they had this intricate story planned out in advance a la Babylon 5. Bullshitters!
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Invalid Validation posted:Did they? I thought I remember them not knowing which secret Cylon they were gonna reveal until the last minute. They eventually had to admit they didn't have a clue where the story was going, they didn't even plan to the end of a single season.
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Phi230 posted:The marines are the crew, it's just a gunship meant to have a mother ship That's why it has its own workshop, armoury, and medical facilities.
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