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AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
C: You can never have too many doctors when the nearest hospital is light years away.

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AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
O

Mengele. :raise:

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
C J

Fix this ourselves with the kit, hold off on crash waking anyone else.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker

JamezBfod posted:

Otherwise I'm not sure without proper damage assessment. The crash for this room would take too long I think, I'd rather die in cryo than awake.

Precisely this. If we succeed, everybody lives. If we fail, they die. Crash-waking takes too long, suiting up takes too long.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
A O. One twelfth of the known extant human race is a very high priority. Minor damage to low priority we can resolve once we're past the critical point. Crash-waking has the potential to kill, and should be avoided unless we're completely out of options.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
1H
2S


The duty navigator says wake up the primary navigator. We follow the advice of the expert. We do NOT want the navigator's eyes damaged.
The Doctor has performed well in unusual circumstances. Since We're awake, we have the leeway to relieve him from watches so he can focus on his speciality, and we do have a lot for him to get through with all the pods that need checking.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker

Rockopolis posted:

Yeah, this sounds good

Edit: would tossing in C, do 50% of the pilot's course correction be good? Sounds like it'd reduce the magnitude of the problem while we wake up the navigator.

Concur with this amendment.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker

Outrail posted:

I'd like to think that people in those ships would be made aware of that slim possibility, and if better tech is discovered they'll be picked up.

Whats this Elite universe? Game or books or..?

Or we're really sealed in an underground bunker/spaceship as a psychology experiment a la Ascension.

Game. The original space trading/combat game from 1984, with two sequels in the early 90s and a more recent mmorpg version.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
AHO, no need to drag out that particular part of the conversation and the role of navigator will be very irrelevant very soon one way or the other. We follow the advice of the specialist. We make sure the potentially damaged stuff is in order.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
A This warrants the attention of the next one up the chain of command..
JK: Yurika seals the room AND we station a 2-person guard.
OQP: Yurika, Xander and Myself form a triumvirate in charge of the investigation. We can't _all_ be guilty, this safeguards us from whoever did it being in charge.
RSTX

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
"Is it wise to risk the other six-sevenths of the human race over this? 'Just sort it out' is not a good plan for an orbital insertion upon which literally every human life depends."

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
"The murderer is not going to get away unless we scatter humanity across the planet to give them that opportunity. Get everyone down together according to plan and we can keep everyone corralled until this one killer is found without risking our species."

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
C. Different tack.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
F: "I grow increasingly concerned at the actions you are taking. End the patrols, stop intimidating the last humans alive, stop turning this hunt for one human into an attempt to form a dictatorship over all the rest, and that item is on the table for discussion."

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
Can we leak the rumour the the fingerprint belongs to the coup leader Captain which he is trying to suppress at the cost of his sanity?

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
F: The Humanists - We believe in the safeguarding of our species and our freedoms against all threats, internal and external. We are diametrically opposed to any attempt to form a tyrannical or despotic government and will actively and fervently work against any who mistreat even one fellow member of our species. Everyone has free will, freedom of speech, freedom to make of themselves what they will, provided they do no harm to another human being that is not actively trying to break that rule first. We strongly encourage going forth and multiplying, a relatively decentralised society, and we insist upon safeguards, checks and balances on those who would seek to lead. We are free, and we intend to stay that way.

T*- Use this to discredit Moreau, work on turning his successor against Oldcastle, then have Oldcastle ruled unfit for command on medical, psychological grounds. Assume control and prioritize keeping everyone together and safely landed.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
"All these factions are loving stupid" is the number one reason for new factions to form. Write one up!

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker

Outrail posted:

why overpopulated this planet if we can just keep the population small and live in a luxurious post scarcity future?

Current total human population is a shade over 70,000. You can fit that in a single mid-sized town, or one - tenth of a Luxembourg. There are a terrifyingly tiny amount of humans left.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker

JT Jag posted:

So I'm not against this as the principles by which we develop the colony societally, but I think the Second Chancers do have a point. Is there any chance we could try to convince them of the virtues of broad self-rule and autonomy, while still having a centralized planning agency for all long-term infrastructure development on the colony?

Could be doable, yes. There are some essentials which would need to be handled centrally.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
Hardrock.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
A. A Delta is an ideal site from which to work.

The stresses breaking the seal are Oldcastle's fault, we strenuously objected to the course he has taken but were overruled. The shattering of Humanity is on him, as is being forced to split up and allow the murderer the freedom of the planet thanks to his laxity.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
Counterpoint: "Beware him who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
Oh, I like E.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker

Outrail posted:

Now throw paranoia and crazy, irrational behaviour into the mix.

If he proves himself unfit, unable and incapable, who are we to disagree? He insulted the Doctor, insanity is cause for being removed.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker

JT Jag posted:

Christ, I made plan E explicitly because we can't afford a mutiny right now. B, stressing that Oldcastle is unstable right now, and may take a large meeting of many senior staff and civilian leaders as a sign of mutiny. Failing that, A, but insist that every faction sends only one member of their leadership, preferably a second-in-command. If Oldcastle does try something, he can't decapitate everyone.

B, and This. Always sideline Oldcastle, the untrustworthy martinet who potentially doomed Humanity.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
How is the relationship between Moreau and Oldcastle currently?

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
A, this resource distribution issue is getting in the way of our separate opposition to Oldcastle issue. In fact, how about a rider,

Have the seconds of each group except the preservers meet elsewhere on that matter whilst we keep the tyrant busy with this.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
A retrieval Satellite.

Get the Herald in an otherwise useless elliptical orbit. Cobble together a satellite to rendezvous with it, bleed off its speed and have it return to its original purpose, which was so foolishly cast aside.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
A U - Calibrate as each prior pod lands, use that data to ensure the rest can, then join us. It's that or ride her down as best you can, and you know what your chances are there.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
C L. Get the suits and we have more active workers. Split the labour 50/50 between getting food and getting more suits to continually increase the labour pool and enable everyone to be fed.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
B. Get the truth out there and people will be making poo poo up about it in no time.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
H: We have all the engineers. jury-rig a bridge!

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
Yeah, drone ferry sounds the best option.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker

LLSix posted:

Drones? Sure, you've got a handful of short range quad-rotor drones typically used to help with construction planning and inspections. You could build a rope bridge that way. Keep in mind that a rope 2kms long is going to sag a bit in the middle. Monofilaments were still a pipe dream when you left Earth, but you could get a more conventional rope across the river without having to swim across.

Oh hey, new idea. Rig up a cargo net between four of the drones and ferry the people to safety without risking going in the water, or just get the food supplies to them that way.

Share the load, see if that gives us enough carry capacity.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker

Volmarias posted:

You're assuming that the drones have a good carrying capacity. Don't forget, water is actually pretty heavy.

We have engineers. If they don't, let's see if we can enhance them until they do.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
Possible longer-term solution: Hovercraft, we could probably whip up a small ducted fan model in very short order. Since it goes over the water rather than through it, and has the pressurised skirt to ride on and dissuade anything reaching up, I'd rate it as having better odds than a raft if the hostiles go after them.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
AH

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
A- We need empirical data!

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
FB Eat subsurface concussion, fish.

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AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
D! It's one life for thousands of lives! We must succeed. Set up a dead man switch to keep the bulldozer going if we die.

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