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ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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Glazius posted:

Good lord that's a lot of jobs.

Maybe it's just seeing them all lined up like that that makes it seem so many.

I count 24 slots total (including Freelancer), which is only two more than the FFV SNES release had.

At a high level, how does the job system for this game compare to the one in FFV?

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ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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Do you ever have to grind job levels to get past something?

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Aug 23, 2007

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White magic has a long history of not being able to prevent death in the Final Fantasy series.

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Aug 23, 2007

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I like how so far the party's heroic exploits consist of murdering people and taking their stuff.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Pureauthor posted:

How the hell does Khint keep finding work if the one constant is that he runs away and leaves his employer to bite it once the danger becomes too much

It's not like he's getting bad references out of it.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Kinda hard to work up a righteous anger when you're working 20 hour days.

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Aug 23, 2007

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The gender discrepancy between the costumes was there in the FFV Mystic Knight sprites, so let's be polite and consider it a nod.

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Aug 23, 2007

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That seems to be a recurring theme.

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Aug 23, 2007

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...Drakengard?

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Aug 23, 2007

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No dualcast. Sad!

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Aug 23, 2007

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Hobgoblin2099 posted:

So I've started playing Final Fantasy V for the first time in ages and this game is giving me major Bravely Default vibes.

Other way around.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Greyarc posted:

Unfortunately, because the 'women are not objects' storyline was optional, none of Ringabel's character development from that carried onward.

This sort of thing is really starting to feel like the game's biggest weakness. I know they need to have some sidequests, but they could've at least made the main Eternian generals into the crystal guardians rather than locking them behind optional content.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Is Praline the first minor we've killed? I guess we're branching out now.

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Aug 23, 2007

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The original Final Fantasy had minotaurs in the fire crystal dungeon, and also zombie minotaurs, although those were found later.

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Aug 23, 2007

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No death by math then? That's no fun.

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Aug 23, 2007

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More generally, how well would a one character per job run work here?

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Aug 23, 2007

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Yeah, that's...special.

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Aug 23, 2007

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The cost for Desperation is missing.

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Aug 23, 2007

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I'm guessing after the fight is when we get into the meat of the exposition.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Maybe he started out wearing blue and just got bored with it.

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Aug 23, 2007

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I read that title as "Episode 201" and had to reflect for a moment about how many updates it's been.

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Aug 23, 2007

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No asterisk for beating Alternis? That doesn't fit with what we're used to.

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Aug 23, 2007

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There are differences between Tiz's and Ringabel's Dark Knight costumes. You just have to be looking very closely to notice them.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Side-by-side comparison with Tiz on the left and Ringabel on the right:



The major differences are the fifth spike and the gauntlets. There are also some minor differences in the images for the other parts, but those could be artifacts.

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Aug 23, 2007

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hey girl you up posted:

So if you're thorough and play through as much of the early game as possible, your reward is... less exposition later on?

I'd rather think of it as getting a few lines of useless exposition as a reward for foregoing the optional but incredibly useful jobs for so long.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Does the Harrowing mention work better if you do this part in roughly the same order as before?

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Aug 23, 2007

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I don't really see a difference. Am I missing something?

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Aug 23, 2007

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Greyarc posted:

These are fantastic for JP farming. They're prolific and drop 70 JP a pop, which isn't much until you account for them appearing often, and in easily roastable packs of six.

Has the cost of job leveling been discussed in this thread? I don't remember seeing it.

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Aug 23, 2007

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How painful is this part to play? I could see it not being too bad or incredibly awful depending on the specifics.

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Aug 23, 2007

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GimmickMan posted:

Man, what a waste Chapter 5 was. This could've been so much more, but instead it was just filler. I guess we could argue that it drove home the point that the loop had been going for a while and that the characters (or at least Ringabel) are caught in a vicious circle... But it didn't have to make the player redo the whole game just for that.

How would you do it better? I don't see any really obvious ways.

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Aug 23, 2007

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It looks like there's some overlap between the Eternians who were present in chapter 5 and the ones present in chapter 6. If they'd made it so that you got exactly one second chance at each asterisk holder, that probably would be a lot less painful.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Geomancy is always free.

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Aug 23, 2007

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BearDrivingTruck posted:

Seriously. She's trying to steer them toward whatever her goal is, and they've spent the whole time being a bunch of clowns. She's probably relishing the chance to kill them.

Strictly speaking she already did.

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Aug 23, 2007

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McDragon posted:

That little touch with the title screen is such a neat little thing.

Bravely Default isn't Final Fantasy. Take out the FF and you see what it really is.

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Aug 23, 2007

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This doesn't seem bad so far. Can't wait to see it go off the rails.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Seems like that would've been more useful a few worlds ago.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Throw in Ominas and Victoria, who aren't exactly shining stars of moral turpitude themselves, and you get one per set of jobs.

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Aug 23, 2007

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The back half of this game just absolutely screams "we ran out of time and budget", doesn't it?

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Aug 23, 2007

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How long does this world actually take to play through if you're reasonably well-prepared?

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Aug 23, 2007

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You can use the test poster to cut down on the loading times.

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