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Here's a post about the New York State Primaries on Thursday, September 13. Here's the who's who guide to New York politics. To people coming here from the NYC LAN thread: Welcome! Feel free to come here to chat about politics in our beloved city and state, and leave the pizza/neighborhood/subway/etc. chat over there. To people who don't know who the hell that first group of people are: Welcome! This is a thread dedicated to politics in New York, both city and state. I'll make a post about the important cast of characters in a future post ( New York politics is also corrupt as hell. Last year, both the Republican leader of the State Senate and the Democratic leader of the Assembly were arrested, tried, and convicted of corruption thanks to the efforts of the federal attorney for the district of New York that includes Albany. Other individual members have been busted for skimming money off of nonprofit health clinics that were owned by him (first sentence of his Wiki bio says it all), slashing his girlfriend with a shard of glass (served time, is free and wants to get back into local politics), making unwanted advances towards a female staffer during a game of online Scrabble (not charged with anything but it did ruin his campaign to jump from the Assembly to City Council), assaulting a New York Post reporter (faced a possible felony charge but ended up serving no time in spite of a previous anger-related incident), and smacking her 13-year-old son with a broom because of his grades (the felony charge has been dropped; she still faces up to a year in jail for a misdemeanor charge, but she probably won't get any). New York City's politics are pretty interesting too, but Albany controls most of its affairs in spite of the current mayor wanting more money and more say over its affairs. City-wide elections are happening this year, and several City Council seats are wide open due to the incumbents being forced to step down due to term limits. Also, the mayor is being investigated for possible campaign finance-related corruption, but it's unclear whether that will derail his bid for a second term. As noted famous New Yorker Taylor Swift once sang, "Welcome to New York- it's waiting for you." And remember: https://twitter.com/desusnice/status/1078477904894410753?s=21 get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 02:02 on Jan 2, 2019 |
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if this guy can be a state senator from New York, any goon can get elected
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Feb 2, 2017 06:15
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Jose posted:new yorkers suck. much like londoners. its not some unique place
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Feb 2, 2017 19:10
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Ol Standard Retard posted:My family-in-law is kind of entangled in NY politics, more on a legacy basis. family get-togethers are... interesting to say the least
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Feb 2, 2017 19:28
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one of the many reasons why fracking would be awful for upstate NY and the rest of the state is that the delicious beer from breweries like Ithaca and Southern Tier would be ruinedGalacticAcid posted:Who's gonna do an effort post on WFP, DSA, NKD etc
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Feb 3, 2017 04:38
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i was at a panel discussion at the New School and one of the speakers was one of the higher ups in the WFP. he said that it's a good idea moving forward to recruit more explicitly socialist candidates, which was heartening to hear. that probably puts a bullseye on their backs again that Cuomo would be more than willing to shoot, but bring it on, grease monkey btw i have the cast of characters posts written up and ready. posting it after this one
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Feb 3, 2017 21:22
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IMPORTANT PEOPLE IN NEW YORK POLITICS Governor Andrew Cuomo (D): Andrew is the son of former New York governor Mario, one of the last of the liberal lions of the Democratic Party, and a public school teacher. Either he inherited none of their good qualities or his political positions were formed as an act of teenage rebellion, because he's one of the worst Democrats in America. He's far more willing to work and collaborate with Senate Republicans than he is with members of his own party in either chamber. 2016 marked the first time he made some effort, half-assed as it was, to give control of the Senate to the Democrats. Before that, he explicitly stated that he wanted Republicans to keep control. Policy-wise, while Cuomo did help bring about marriage equality and a (very gradual) $15 minimum wage out of the Legislature and wants to codify Roe v. Wade into the state constitution, he's as corporate of a Democrat as they come. His "Start Up NY" program was supposed to bring jobs to the state but has only created a couple hundred jobs while wasting a ton of money. He co-opted a Republican plan to cap property tax increases at 2%. His much-ballyhooed free public college tuition plan for people making $125,000 or less is far more helpful to people making more money, because students eligible for other federal and state tuition assistance get that counted towards what the state owes. People want you to think that Cuomo is going to be a serious challenger for the Democratic nomination in 2020. If there is a just and loving God, he won't get it. Cuomo's girlfriend is Food Network personality Sandra Lee, whose breast cancer might have been caused by the hundreds of distinct carcinogens that are in his hair. Assembly leader Carl Heastie (D) and Senate leader John Flanagan (R): The other two people that make up the "Three Men in the Room," which basically determines the legislative agenda. Heastie is Democrat from the North Bronx who took over the mantle of leader of the State Assembly last year, when longtime leader Sheldon Silver of the Lower East Side of Manhattan was convicted of corruption. He probably talked Cuomo out of shifting hundreds of millions of dollars of state funding to New York City for things like Medicaid and CUNY (state university system within the five boroughs of NYC) tuition. Flanagan from Long Island took over the Senate last year when fellow LI Republican Dean Skelos also went to jail for corruption. Because of Cuomo's tendency to throw his own party under the bus, Flanagan and the Senate hold more sway and contribute to New York state policy not being as robustly progressive as it should be for a solid blue state. In fact, Democrats hold a numeric advantage in the Senate, but Republicans have control because of... The Independent Democratic Conference (IDC): The IDC started out as a four-member strong group of craven centrist Democrats who wanted more power outside of their own conference. Even though their loyalty is supposed to be up in the air and subject to change every two years, they almost always side in numbers with the Republicans even though they're not by-the-book GOP. Its leader is Jeff Klein, who represents parts of the North Bronx and Westchester County. The other three are Diane Savino of northern Staten Island and Coney Island in Brooklyn, David Carlucci of Westchester County, and David Valesky from a few upstate counties. A couple of years ago, Tony Avella from the parts of Queens that might as well be Long Island joined them, and his politics are about the same- he beat a long-tenured Republican incumbent to get his seat. In November, the dynamic changed, as Jesse Hamilton of Brooklyn (specifically, the partially gentrified but still mostly working-class- for now- neighborhood of Crown Heights and the extremely poor, dangerous neighborhood of Brownsville) announced he would join on the 7th. A couple of days later, Marisol Alcantara of the Upper Manhattan neighborhoods of Washington Heights and Inwood, officially won her open State Senate race and immediately declared she would join the IDC. Hamilton represents plenty of struggling New Yorkers, Alcantara is a former nursing union organizer, and neither of them hold political views friendly to Republicans. However, both of them were lured with the promise of money- Hamilton supposedly wasn't given money for projects he wanted in his district (seems believable, because the Senate Dems can be pretty dysfunctional), and Alcantara's campaign got lots of funding from the caucus. Last week, Jose Peralta of Queens (the Hispanic and South Asian neighborhood of Jackson Heights and the Hispanic and Chinese neighborhood of Elmhurst) brought the IDC number up to eight, presumably for money reasons as well. I don't expect any of the three newcomers to go without a primary challenge in two years- Queens party boss and Congressman Joe Crowley is already looking for someone to recruit against Peralta, Alcantara squeaked out a win against two other candidates and presumably one of them should be ready, and I have to think Rubain Dorancey will now want a rematch against Hamilton, who he lost against in the primary in 2014. Unfortunately, there's anxiety that more members will defect, and Ruben Diaz Sr. (who for some reason isn't caucusing with the GOP directly or is a part of the IDC) thinks they're going to die. Democratic Senate leadership might have some heads rolling. Sen. Simcha Felder (kinda/sorta/not really D): Felder started his Senate career in 2011, as his district was carved out to represent the heavily Hasidic Jewish neighborhoods of Borough Park and Midwood in Brooklyn. He tried previously to primary Kevin Parker (the guy who attacked a NY Post reporter) but lost, and he succeeded Carl Kruger, a conservative Democrat who mostly represented these areas as well as Sheepshead Bay. Felder is an even more dishonest Democrat than the ones in the IDC- he caucuses directly with the Republicans, which is ironic given how poor his district is. He's a vocal opponent of giving New York City authority to tax 5 cents per plastic bag. His bona fides with the Hasidic community will make it drat near impossible to get an effective challenger. I can think of one person, but he'll have to wait a few years. New York City mayor Bill de Blasio (D): The very tall de Blasio succeeded the very small Michael Bloomberg after winning the mayoral election in 2013. Before that, he came out on top of a whirlwind primary involving former city comptroller Bill Thompson and City Council speaker/collaborator with Bloomberg in making NYC even more unaffordable Christine Quinn. Former Congressman and perpetual narcissistic pervert Anthony Weiner was in the race for a time and led until he was again found out to have shown his weiner (lol) to women in sexts. de Blasio has a genuinely leftist past- he honeymooned with his former lesbian wife (seriously, she wrote an article about it in the '70s) in Sandinista Nicaragua. Arguably, de Blasio won because his message of growing income inequality in New York City resonated with voters. While he has signed admirable things into law- universal pre-K for all New Yorkers, five sick days a year to people working in the city who aren't provided that by their employer, identification for undocumented individuals called NYC ID- lately he's been collaborating with developers to build large apartment buildings across the city. Even though a portion of their units are designated as "affordable," hardly any of them can be bought by residents of a given lower-income neighborhood. At the same time, de Blasio does want more funding for things in the city that can only be provided by Albany. For whatever reason, Cuomo refuses to give him an inch, even though they once worked together at the department of Housing and Urban Development and were once considered to be friends. It's probably because Cuomo is a left-punching dick. Regardless of his flaws, de Blasio should win re-election as mayor this year. However, he is being investigated for- what else?- corruption related to campaign funding. It's possible nothing will come out of it, but if it does, expect current city comptroller Scott Stringer to swoop in. Preet Bharara, U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York: The man responsible for attacking Albany's culture of corruption head-on. His office arrested, indicted, and convicted Silver and Skelos. In addition to investigating de Blasio, it's widely believed that he's hot on the trail of Cuomo. Probably because of his willingness to take on these powerful Democrats, Trump kept him on as U.S. attorney. I can't complain about that, really. Hopefully he runs for governor or even president when the time comes. Fun fact: I recently learned that my cousin went to the same high school as Preet, who was a year ahead. His nickname back then? "God." He was destined to do good things.
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Feb 3, 2017 21:27
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unbutthurtable posted:Can you, or anyone really, describe the differences between the state senate and the state assembly? Like, differences in function/responsibility, cultural differences, relative power and prestige, etc.
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Feb 3, 2017 21:51
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CaptainPsyko posted:Preet Bharara can never run for president. how did the Peralta meeting go? i hear it was packed
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Feb 4, 2017 18:47
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if the Post is correct (tall task, i know), Peralta did it for a raise of $25k. that makes sense because a guy at Hamilton's office also told me he did it for the money, specifically for projects he wanted to establish in his district. and Alcantara's campaign was directly funded by the IDC supposedly four more are thinking of jumping ship, which makes me think that there's also a problem with Senate Dem leadership
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Feb 4, 2017 19:22
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Grondoth posted:So like... all the members of the IDC are from NYC.
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Feb 5, 2017 23:04
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Cuddly Tumblemumps posted:Who are you thinking of? he got elected in 2016, so i highly doubt he's going to run against Felder the first chance he gets get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 09:36 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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Feb 6, 2017 09:34
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butros posted:Is Carlos Menchaca good or bad?
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Feb 6, 2017 20:07
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it sorta feels like we're at the cusp of a turning point, but we're not there yet. arguably, we were closer before this spat of defections to the IDC. fwiw i heard Stewart-Cousins is a terrible leader and she probably needs to face some sort of backlash for this happening on her watch while she says things decrying it while doing nothing to prevent it. Gianaris probably needs to go too the Village Voice wrote a good piece about Alcantara (they still write good articles, i guess!) money quote: quote:“Too often when legislators of color make decisions based on helping their constituents, they are demonized and accused of having a financial motivation,” Alcantara said in a statement to the Voice. “That’s what’s happening here, and it’s racist.” edit: some other rotten bones to chew on. organizations with money will gently caress up a constitutional convention, but here's a hint: it's not the kind Cuomo is thinking of  i didn't do a write-up of Ruben Diaz Sr. but i should, he's a piece of poo poo 
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Feb 8, 2017 00:50
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schneiderman needs to think long and hard about primary challenging cuomo, because somebody needs to
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Feb 8, 2017 19:56
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did i mention how loving much i hate cuomo https://twitter.com/politicony/status/829415599780593665
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Feb 8, 2017 23:09
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gillibrand has gone leftward on some issues since leaving the house for the senate (namely guns), but that still makes her a standard democrat and that's not all that appealing right now
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Feb 9, 2017 18:23
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theflyingexecutive posted:so I went back to refresh my memory of how we were stuck with Cuomo: i'm facebook friends with a district leader in AD 42, which encompasses Flatbush and East Flatbush. he posted this article about Peralta  one of his facebook friends didn't take it so well 
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Feb 9, 2017 23:08
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CaptainPsyko posted:Simcha Felder is a special sort of scumbag though.
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Feb 10, 2017 00:17
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i'd say some western states are more progressive on policy than MA. the Boston area is a good look at how the Dems abandoned working-class politics for white-collar money
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Feb 10, 2017 22:03
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theflyingexecutive posted:Yeah but you're talking about a state whose republican ex-governor has his name on uhc legislation vermont and colorado had attempts at achieving something far more accurate to the term "universal health care"
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Feb 10, 2017 23:27
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can schneiderman just announce he's running for governor already
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Feb 11, 2017 03:02
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goose willis posted:"Safe blue states" as a concept needs to end because you will never get anything more than the worst generic establishment Democrats since they can field the same bullshit every election and win by default without any serious opposition because the left-leaning segment of the population figures that things are OK because there's a politician or two with a (D-) in front of their names when they see them on the evening news  that district leader pissed off a different important facebook friend   i'm not sure whether hamilton's "let's change the subject and talk about the good things i did" post is better than savino's "gently caress you, i'm not the problem" post but it doesn't matter, the results are the same
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Feb 11, 2017 23:04
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i don't wanna make this thread 100% content about scumbag politicians responding to Josue Pierre's Facebook pages, but Rubain Dorancey said on his nonpersonal page that he won't run against Hamilton again (he lost in the 2014 primary) just because he's in the IDC. i think our only hope might be Bad Momma Richardson
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Feb 12, 2017 21:26
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i've gotten two texts from Jesse Hamilton's office over the past two days accusing Jumaane Williams of being anti-black lives and Kevin Parker of being anti-immigrant, both linking to articles on Kings County Politics written by Stephen Witt. for Parker's part, some procedural bullshit caused his vote on an anti-sanctuary bill to default to "yes," as he was busy officiating a wedding when it happened. i called his office, they took my number down, and Parker himself called me two hours later, saying that if it weren't for GOP control of the state senate, this vote wouldn't have happened. he's not wrong, although he did take a stupid risk by leaving his vote open. he did create the Senate subcommittee for new Americans a while back and held an immigrant rights forum with an assemblywoman and city councilman last week here's the Parker article. note the glowing praise for Hamilton's courageous stand (in spite of allowing this bill to go to the floor in the first place) and a stupid, baseless comment about how progressives who want him out are "mostly white." Witt just looks he's writing press releases for Hamilton Jesse Hamilton should eat twenty bags of dicks
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Feb 15, 2017 04:04
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MizPiz posted:Finally decided to learn some information about my state representative and, well, we're off to a great start. for her part, her big issue is neighborhood affordability and won the special election because she made that the central issue, plus her main challenger, Shirley Patterson, got busted for misusing campaign funds a few months later. she also went to a meeting cohosted by DSA about dealing with a city-owned building being turned into mostly unaffordable condos and thanked them for hosting it. i'd wager most Democrats wouldn't be caught dead at anything hosted by them. so Richardson's far better on the issues than she is as a parent also, here's a list of the times my state senator has lost his poo poo. she still has a long way to go to surpass him, and i hope this is her last incident get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 04:33 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Feb 15, 2017 04:29
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the senate districts in south brooklyn are horrendous. if i lived on the south side of my street, i'd be in Felder's district, and there's a big part that juts up in the middle of Parker's before it goes back to normal. that "big part" is Ocean Parkway where a ton of Orthodox Jews from the ex-Soviet Union live. it's even worse when you go further south, as Savino's district takes up Coney Island and a small sliver of Sheepshead Bay in addition to northern Staten Island
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Feb 15, 2017 04:57
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NKD has a couple of meetings a month, sign up for their mailing list and go from there
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Feb 15, 2017 08:06
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i love how america's most populous city has less say over its own affairs than Scranton, PA, as proven yet again by Cuomo's bottomless well of spite by ruling that we can't have a 5-cent bag tax everReal hurthling! posted:are there any early thoughts on how the constitutional convention ref vote will go this fall? my union rep was very doom and gloom about workers rights surviving a rewrite.
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Feb 17, 2017 04:55
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this is the least surprising/worst reaction cuomo could have had towards the IDC
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Feb 21, 2017 19:49
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i'll add a link to the OP when you do
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Feb 22, 2017 23:00
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Uncle Wemus posted:How does the rest of the state view NYC
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Feb 25, 2017 07:25
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i live in Brooklyn and i know that i ain't poo poo. but i'd rather live here than Manhattan, which is so expensive, noisy, and same-y that it's not worth it. i like Queens tooCaptainPsyko posted:Tom Perez is fine. I wouldn't have voted for him, but the main knock on him is basically 1) Bernie didn't endorse him, 2) He was an Obama appointee, and 3) as an Obama appointee, he talked the administration line re: TPP. he's not ideal by any means, and it does suck if only for the first reason i brought up, but he'll doubtlessly do better than Debbie, who ran everything like nothing was wrong when it absolutely was. also delaware didn't fall to the GOP yesterday so there's momentum in realizing state elections actually matter
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Feb 26, 2017 17:04
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at a post-election forum he hosted, Jesse Hamilton said he'd support a single-payer bill. kind of a moot point since he's empowering the people that won't let it get to a vote
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Feb 26, 2017 17:38
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cuomo's favorability rating is officially at 60% and his job performance rating is trending slightly positive, because NY state is filled with morons
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Feb 27, 2017 23:13
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funny thing: cuomo didn't vote at all in the DNC leadership election and told other NY party officials to do whatever. that likely means that he let someone else do the dirty work of sinking Ellison so he could claim plausible deniability later on the bright side, Michael Blake actually did win as vice-chair and he made it clear that it's important to run in every district in every state. i'm discouraged but not hopelessly so, just means we need to continue to be loud
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Feb 28, 2017 03:28
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gobbagool posted:the only thing more enjoyable than outlawing dancing is watching NYC socialists pretending that Cuomo is one of their own
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Feb 28, 2017 22:35
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that de facto federal concealed carry law is a stupid idea for reasons already stated, but if i weren't a person who easily gets angry at stupid poo poo, i'd consider taking advantage of it. these jewish cemetery desecrations are getting way out of hand and it'll probably devolve into arsons and attacks
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Mar 3, 2017 23:53
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gobbagool posted:Yeah and you got triggered by the idea that one of your fellow travelers is behind at least one and likely more of the threats. You're a huge baby that should probably, in the immortal words of your abuela, delete your account
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I was at a meeting at Jackie Robinson Middle School tonight that outlined the plan for the Bedford Union Armory. It was mainly attended by people and groups opposed to it: longtime and recent residents of Crown Heights, NYC DSA, the Crown Heights Tenants Union, New York Communities for Change, and Local 79, the construction worker union (although there was one member who actually spoke in support of the project). DSA in particular has been spearheading opposition to it, and both local Assemblymembers (Diana Richardson and Walter Mosley) and Jesse Hamilton want the project in its current form to be killed. As it currently stands, it would have 50% market rate housing and 50% "affordable" units, with only 5% or so of them being affordable for the median income of people in the neighborhood. The recreation center would probably not be free for the community, it would likely have monthly fees for people who are Up to now, alternatives have been vague, although it's clear that they want housing that's affordable for the current residents. Somebody handed out flyers for making the space a community land trust, which ensures members have a say in what happens there. It seems like a good idea, but since there's no money in it, it'll be an uphill battle to get it done. Nonetheless, it seems like a good, concrete answer to these kinds of developments and should be explored more in other parts of the city. The male district leader, Geoffrey Davis, spoke in support of the redevelopment and shamed the people who were there for not also being at rallies against gun violence. Many people were rightly pissed at him. Laurie Cumbo attended but didn't speak. She said that she's against the deal in its current form, but she hasn't been as vocal about it as the Assemblymembers and the State Senator, so people are skeptical. Overall, it was a good time, people showed lots of energy and officials from the city got an earful. Hamilton said at a post-election forum that he'd vote for this, but seeing as he's helping the Republicans keep control of the Senate, it doesn't much matter what he or anyone else in the IDC thinks.
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