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Fracking, much like Gun Control has no place in a progressive Democratic Party Platform.
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2017 07:17 |
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2024 15:54 |
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zeal posted:so how long till the whole rotten burg sinks Never. One-party states are actually the worst. Give me a purple state with representatives that actually care about the voters any day of the week.
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 02:01 |
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Hey let's talk about this bill here, instead of in the food suggestion thread. Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017 https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/446/text The text of the senate bill hasn't been submitted yet, but I'm sure it will look similar to various other bills that have passed one of the houses in the past: https://www.congress.gov/115/bills/hr38/BILLS-115hr38ih.xml Here is the house bill. Now specifically in local news the NYPD Commissioner is "concerned." http://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs...mmissioner.html I say this is a good thing. The reason it's a good thing is that currently gun-laws are a state-by-state patch-work of laws that are basically incompatible with each other. Because the subject is "guns" typically the consequences for violating that patch work of laws are serious, possibly even felony's. Now there are a lot of patch-work laws in the US, Driving, Drugs, Agriculture, Insurance, etc. Though almost always, what is legal in one state is legal in all states, you see this with marriage for example, some notable exceptions are guns and drugs. Now it should be fairly uncontroversial to say that drug laws as they currently exist are ridiculous. Something that is 100% legal in Colorado, is a Felony in Nebraska (hash or concentrates). This won't change for a long time because for most things, they are 100% under the states purview which is why Marijuana is legal in Colorado, but not in many neighboring states. Gun's however are 100% under Federal Purview as they are explicitly mentioned in the Bill of Rights. It's an open question just how much states can regulate guns themselves, but one thing that has been consistent is that you can't "Ban" guns on a state level. You can de-facto ban them, like NYC and many other cities and California has done, but it's still a fine line. Now why does this matter and how does it relate to the bills above and of course, why is it a good thing? I say if you actually care about reducing gun-violence and are more interested in helping people rather then using "gun control" as a dogwhistle for banning them, the first thing you need is federal standardization of the law. Why? Because currently you can go to a state that has almost zero laws on purchasing guns, buy as many as you want, then head to a city like Chicago, or New York and sell those guns at quite a bit of mark-up with basically zero risk. The record of the sales are federal, if they exist at all, and once you've sold those guns the connection to you specifically is tenuous at best. The only chance the police have is to catch you in the act. So how would a the above laws help? Well it would be a first step to standardizing gun laws on the federal level. Ideally it will lead to the dissolution of all the state ccw laws, to be replaced with a single federal CCL with specific requirements to qualify for them. Sure this would upset out-of-touch people from here, but the trade-off would be more strict federal requirements on who can actually purchase and sell guns in the US with the eventual goal of stopping straw-purchases completely. If straw-purchases go away, the supply of illegal guns to these communities impacted by violence drops greatly. Violence decreases, and people who want a gun are still able to get one. Win/Win imo.
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 20:58 |
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99 CENTS AMIGO posted:Yeah, this is foolish accelerationism that anticipates gun control to follow, and there's no damned way that happens federally. More people will die waiting for a release valve that'll never be operated. Where are these deaths coming from and why aren't they here already? And how is that worse then the status quo?
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 23:00 |
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zakharov posted:Two people posted well-reasoned arguments on opposite sides of the issue without flaming anyone and you managed to be a dick for no reason, congrats to you It's gobbagool, there is reason he doesn't post in the food-chat thread. That said, I am not at all worried about an increased number of CCW's, and I still believe standardized federal law is a necessary first step for effective gun-control. Scrub-Niggurath posted:Shooting clays upstate is an under-appreciated pastime for new yorkers imho Agreed.
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# ¿ Mar 3, 2017 04:15 |
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DoctorWhat posted:Thompson isn't responsible for every loving bomb threat. Yea most bomb-threats are students trying to get out of tests, or trying to censor speakers they disagree with.
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2017 03:04 |
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financially racist posted:yes i'm sure students are making bomb threats against jewish temples to get out of tests Not sure where the "jewish" part of not "every loving bomb threat" came from but, agreed.
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2017 04:35 |
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financially racist posted:so you're just incapable of inferring things through context then? or did you just not read any of the preceeding posts at all Did you know that "bomb threats" are a thing that happens very often, and usually they are called in against non-denominational public schools. Or to put it another way, not every loving bomb threat has to do with Jews, in fact the vast majority of them do not.
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2017 20:16 |
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Grondoth posted:I wonder if Cuomo will gently caress us on this. Yes. But not by vetoing it, but by making sure the bill mysteriously dies in committee.
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# ¿ Mar 8, 2017 02:11 |
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Affordable Housing? Heh, have you considered guns, or drugs and how bad those things are, checkmate.
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# ¿ Mar 8, 2017 17:25 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I don't know if the governor's mansion is where I'd put a muckraker like that. You don't root out corruption by having a few good people at the top, you do it by pushing for better accountability systems and having good, no-bullshit people willing to investigate and prosecute wrongdoing. If a Democrat wins in 2020, AG or FBI Director Bharara sounds really, really nice. He could resurrect the ethics committee
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2017 23:37 |
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I use "nothingburger" as a way to mock the type of dem who thought emails and possibly being indicted didn't matter but russia does.
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2017 01:05 |
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2017 18:52 |
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Closing Rikers has been a thing talked about for a long time, my question is, why? Where are those folks going to go? They just going to be shipped upstate or something? I mean jails actually do serve a necessary purpose even in a perfectly just system.
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2017 16:42 |
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Hey New York City Dwellers. Vote on the participatory budget. Today is the last day, but you can do it online http://council.nyc.gov/pb/vote/
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2017 21:53 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Question is whether Uber will survive long enough to get up here. Uber will be fine. Protip: Taxi's in the city, uber/lyft outside of the city.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2017 04:28 |
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whatis posted:it's extremely funny, to me, that poverty levels in upstate new york are more than double the national average in most places. having a big laugh here that poorly thought-out and implemented economic development initiatives have failed miserably to address longstanding deficiencies in communities just a few hours away from new york city No see you are supposed to be disdainful of them and talk about how NYC should secede from the useless rednecks.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2017 18:12 |
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GalacticAcid posted:Is anyone ITT in favor of a constitutional convention? Absolutely. Also New King's Democrats are working with various other progressive clubs to have a Con Con.
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# ¿ May 2, 2017 03:08 |
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it won't gently caress over anyone unless you just sit back and let it be run like NYC politics. In fact it has great potential to fundamentally change the state for the better. but yea if no one gets involved then people like Hillary will write it and it will be poo poo for 99% of people. not unlike how it is now.
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# ¿ May 2, 2017 16:56 |
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So if we can't trust the government (being against the con con) then how will anything ever get better?get that OUT of my face posted:i got an email from my local DSA meeting group about the con con, taken from somebody's union retiree newsletter What are the actual reasons to be against a con con? Because I see people who are "concerned" but I see zero concerns. ate shit on live tv has issued a correction as of 01:44 on May 5, 2017 |
# ¿ May 5, 2017 01:42 |
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lovely incumbents are WAY harder to unseat then getting progressive convention representatives elected. The money part is true, but that's not really a new problem, and it will exist regardless. Right now things are getting worse for most people in the state. Doing nothing will ensure that things will continue getting worse. Plus every single progressive club in the city is also attempting to unseat lovely incumbents. Many are also working for a con con. They are hardly exclusive.
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# ¿ May 5, 2017 02:47 |
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imo if your plan to improve the subway doesn't include increasing both man hours and capital expenditures, it's nothing but a political wankfest.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2017 01:27 |
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Lol his free college for all plan was means tested to hell and back. I'm not sure who actually qualifies under the plan, but it's certainly not "all."
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2017 18:25 |
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MizPiz posted:@NYCAntifa is apparently doxxing local nazis. Kind of hesitant to post the actual tweets for rules reasons. What do you think would happen if someone that was doxxed by the, no doubt ethical and fact-checked, "antifa" account wasn't actually a nazi?
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2017 20:06 |
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GalacticAcid posted:https://twitter.com/erinmdurkin/status/885176580305190912 He's right, but it's like the "welfare queen" thing. Yes there probably exists a welfare/child support "queen" who doesn't really need either of those things, but it shouldn't be a policy concern because there are millions of others who do actually need welfare/child-support. Or in this case "pan-handlers" is just a way to avoid admitting there is a homeless problem in NYC.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2017 19:11 |
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Real hurthling! posted:nobody should have to beg in this city. seems like even the biggest homeless hating piece of poo poo has an interest in solving the problem as much as the folks that care about their fellow man. idgi. hoping it gets cold enough to get them off the street each winter isn't a workable homeless policy but its all de blasio seems to have. Homelessness isn't something that a city can solve by itself. It's a societal problem that stems from the fact that we don't want to provide permanent housing to those that cannot afford it. How would YOU "fix homelessness?"
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2017 03:14 |
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Real hurthling! posted:with houses and money taken from rich people at gunpoint But I don't think De Blasio has the ability to do that.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2017 03:27 |
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Real hurthling! posted:i'm sitting here watching that million dollar listing show where dudes are selling 10 million dollar apartments that take the whole floor of a building that used to house hundreds of people and i'm thinking like yes there's surely no resources to shelter the 3-4 thousand people in this city with no means. This number is at least an order-and-a-half magnitude too small.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2017 05:47 |
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Real hurthling! posted:the city estimates that there are only that many "rough sleepers" there are like 60k covered by the shelter system I was counting people in the homeless shelter system as homeless, by definition. Current shelter's aren't intended to be permanent housing, afaik.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2017 07:02 |
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Real hurthling! posted:i said Ah, my bad. You were talking about the people that weren't covered by the current shelter system. I was talking about the current total number of homeless people which includes the people in the shelter system.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2017 07:07 |
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get that OUT of my face posted:a few years ago (((they))) allowed women to study at secular colleges and
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2017 23:14 |
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get that OUT of my face posted:har har Oh I 100% agree with you, and I have read a lot about abusive NYC landlords over the years. The problem is, there is no way to criticize the overwhelmingly jewish landlords without being accused of antisemitism. Ultimately it's classism and no one is interesting in even addressing it. De Blasio campaigned on it, and promptly forgot it after his "tale of two cities" reference and his successful campaign.
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2017 05:08 |
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There are two types of vacant buildings. One type are like the hundreds of empty storefronts you see in gentrifying neighborhoods, where the landlord doesn't want to sign a 10 year lease until he can get 10x what the previous tenant was paying. The other is the residential building that is "worth" 10's of millions of dollars that is used as nothing but a tax shelter for foreign investors. Examples of these are all the empty apartments that overlook central park, and all the "luxury" high-rise apartments that are springing up. Different tax structures could address both of these problems, but no one who is interested in solving these problems as the power to enact those types of taxes, afaik.
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2017 19:08 |
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Whether it would ban roger waters or not, it's a lovely bill.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2017 16:43 |
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hotchanie69 posted:ugh
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2017 21:58 |
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MizPiz posted:I stopped by the protest yesterday for like 15 minutes, it was pretty heated and they roped in other gentrification issues that are affecting the community. I actually think I can hear them from my apartment. Did they mention landlords or real estate holding companies?
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2017 23:04 |
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Matt Zerella posted:if this is the measuring stick then there are large swathes of the city that have zero power. This is very accurate, as you should know.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2017 17:44 |
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gobbagool posted:I'd love that. I have a 40 gallon barrel of cider I made from ancient trees on my lot, it's probably about 15% abv and tastes like vanilla apple heaven. one of my buddies does pig roasts and my 200 yard range is open for business. This sounds amazing
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2017 03:01 |
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How are these "jobs" programs and business tax-breaks anything other then corruption?
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2017 00:09 |
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2024 15:54 |
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I put my vote in for the bern-man. I also saw him at Washington Square Park, which was awesome.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2017 19:53 |