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Terrorist Fistbump posted:Republicans are the cool kids with the fancy toys, but only politicians with a D next to their name are electable in parts of the state. It's a strange artifact of how 1. the national split between the parties doesn't really represent state and city issues very well and 2. election turnout is terrible in general, doubly so for state elections, and triply so for primaries. It's not even this necessarily. (Well, except Simcha Felder who is possibly the DINO-iest DINO to ever DINO. Liked even before the IDC was a thing he was caucusing republican I think.) A lot of the IDC dudes are actually to the left of a lot of loyalist Dems on many issues - most of them have signed on to do sponsor the going-nowhere-fast single payer healthcare bill that got reintroduced for the 25th time this week. What it's about is power, money, and (maintaining a lack of) ethics rules. There are substantial financial benefits to majority seniority in the New York State legislature. Being a committee chair is like getting a 40% raise in some cases. The IDC Dems have basically traded control of the chamber for their own personal gain. The main common ground they have with the republicans they caucus with is a commitment to totally shutting down any sort of ethics reform legislation that might stop their gravy train. Beyond that, the relationship is entirely transactional.
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Feb 2, 2017 22:30
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Mechafunkzilla posted:So, if the laws are ineffective and everyone still has their guns, why does anyone give a poo poo? Where's the strident cultural oppression you're going on about? How does NYC's supposed political hegemony (which is absurd, the state senate is dominated by upstate Republicans and has been for 50 years) affect the lives of upstate residents in a negative way? Let's be fair. The senate is dominated by suburban republicans who play Dems from the city and upstate republicans off against each other to maintain control.
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Feb 2, 2017 23:17
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get that OUT of my face posted:one of the many reasons why fracking would be awful for upstate NY and the rest of the state is that the delicious beer from breweries like Ithaca and Southern Tier would be ruined Come on now. You and I both know that the beer from Southern Tier would be fine because even the worst water isn't going to overpower that much goddamn sugar. Also, DSA and NKD are wholly unlike the WFP. Maybe in a year or two they'd rate being part of a rundown of "This Is Who Matters in NYS Politics" but they are far from there yet, whereas the WFP is a legitimate (albeit somewhat bloodied of late) powerbroker.
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Feb 3, 2017 05:19
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Preet Bharara can never run for president.
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Feb 4, 2017 14:56
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Aurubin posted:What's the impetus for the growth of the IDC? I can understand a few breakaways depending on district, but with all the NYC ones I would think that would leave them vulnerable to primary challenges, especially in this now heated political climate. Or am I wrongly equating local and national politics? The IDC isn't about ideology it's about power. (And money.) Don't think of the IDC as the Dems that are going to vote to break the filibuster on Gorsuch in a few weeks. Think of them as a group of Dems that are angry that the other Dems who they mostly agree with are in charge for reasons that have everything to do with politics and nothing to do with policy and so they have taken their ball and gone to sit in the middle.
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Feb 7, 2017 19:59
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unbutthurtable posted:Gianaris is my state senator, but I don't know a ton about him policy-wise. What's your take on him? As with most New York dems, it isn't about policy, really; if you can deal with all the other incentives swirling around, he'll generally vote the right way. But as the chair of the state democratic senate campaign committee, he hasn't been particularly effective, nor has he been very good in his role as a member of leadership on the floor. And there's also the fact that he and Klein are at each other's throats over various petty bullshit which has made bringing the IDC home more challenging than it needs to be.
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Feb 8, 2017 15:09
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I wasn't aware the attorney general had standing to introduce legislation.
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Feb 8, 2017 17:02
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:She voted against more of trumps cabinet picks than warren and Bernie LOL if you think this is a good metric. Like, if I were a senator, I'd probably vote for Carson because 1) he's getting through anyway, 2) I'd rather his benign seeming incompetence than whoever is going to be named instead of him if he fails. Picking battles is important. Yeah, they didn't manage to knock off DeVos, because the Dems are bad at this poo poo, but I guarantee that they wouldn't have peeled off murk and Collins if there weren't a substantial number of democrats who seemed willing to confirm more 'normal' nominees. (Basically meaning the defense/foreign policy folks, for the most part, in the case of this administration. I don't like any of them, but they're mostly normal republicans and a republican president deserves to have normal republicans in his cabinet.)
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Feb 9, 2017 18:10
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Simcha Felder is a special sort of scumbag though.
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Feb 10, 2017 00:07
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theflyingexecutive posted:because MA is an actual blue state and NY is blue in name only Reminder that Massachusetts elected Scott Brown before Warren and started us down this poo poo-tactic timeline. Grass is always greener and all that.
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Feb 10, 2017 14:28
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In other news, and I'm sorry if this happens to be a lot of people ITT... but lol at anyone that thinks turnover in the state legislature beyond flipping one or two seats is going to happen short of mass indictments. You know how congress is super gerrymandered and has an absurdly high incumbency rate? Well wait until you look up the incumbency rate for New York pols...
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Feb 15, 2017 04:53
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Tom Perez is fine. I wouldn't have voted for him, but the main knock on him is basically 1) Bernie didn't endorse him, 2) He was an Obama appointee, and 3) as an Obama appointee, he talked the administration line re: TPP. Fortunately, given that DNC chair is emphatically not a policy job and is about apportioning resources and coordinating strategy of various other campaigns... and given that what's Perez has had to say sounds an awful lot like what Keith Ellison has had to say, and having him be the chair as a full time job and letting Ellison stay in congress... Eh, it's fine. It's not good or exciting but loving lol if this is your line in the sand.
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Feb 25, 2017 22:40
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Perennial bill introductions are not news. Let me know when it actually gets out of a senate committee and I'll call it interesting.
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Feb 26, 2017 22:35
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financially racist posted:yes i'm sure students are making bomb threats against jewish temples to get out of tests I mean, I'm sure there's an idiot in Yeshiva somewhere, but let's not play this game.
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Mar 4, 2017 04:47
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Nope. He was born in India.
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Mar 11, 2017 01:04
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I don't know. There'd be too much pressure for him to stop them from investigating him, too. And on the other hand, I don't know that he has the experience to manage or get things through the Legislature. He was Chuck Schumer's #2 in the senate for several years. He knows from legislation.
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Mar 12, 2017 01:19
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Absurd Alhazred posted:This is what I'm getting from the wiki: That was one thing he did.
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Mar 12, 2017 01:35
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No charges for deblasio. Mayoral race gonna be boring now.
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Mar 16, 2017 15:54
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Can anyone summarize the DiBlasio thing for me? Is it just a big nothingburger? In 2014, BDB did a lot of fundraising for various upstate democrats - especially those running for senate. In addition, he has been linked at various times to a variety of donors who have relationships with the city and who have been investigated or even charged in various other unrelated shady campaign finance nonsense finally, during his first run for mayor, there was an outside PAC (the Campaign for One New York) that he was occasionally accused of working too closely with. He was investigated as a result of these activities, based largely on a referral from a member of the state board of elections (a Cuomo appointee, natch). In particular, the fundraising for upstate Dems was seen as problematic because donors he solicited were giving money to local democratic committees which was in turn routed to campaign funds - this has been SOP in both parties in NY for years and nobody has ever been sanctioned or prosecuted for it, but it's also always been questionably legal, and Bharara's office in particular has taken a fairly expansive reading of campaign finance laws (see Silver, Sheldon and Skelos, Dean and Adam). It wasn't out of the question that he might want to use BDB to establish another new precedent w/r/t this practice. (There was also speculation that deblasio himself might not be charged but the aide responsible for following up his fundraising calls to say "thanks for agreeing to contribute. Please make out the check to Monroe County Democrats Housekeeping Fund" might be. No indication of that though.) Today's announcement basically boils down to: "he dotted his i's crossed his t's, and consulted a lawyer every step of the way who told him how to 'follow the law' so there's nothing chargeable here. But the campaign finance laws suck and this should probably be illegal." Which... has kind of been the deblasio position all along with a corollary of "until the law is changed, we're not going to disadvantage ourselves over it." So, yeah, nothingburger.
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Mar 16, 2017 20:19
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theflyingexecutive posted:"Nothingburger" was a term Mook et al used to describe hillary's email scandal, usu shouted when plugging his ears I mean he wasn't wrong. But we're post-facts in national politics. Locally I have a bit more hope.
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Mar 16, 2017 20:25
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financially racist posted:the thing is mario cuomo was good and if andrew cuomo just aspired to be his father that'd be cool Seriously. Imagine a world where Mario Cuomo actually runs for president in 1992 and Clintonism doesn't destroy civilization.
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Mar 28, 2017 03:14
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Closing Rikers has been a thing talked about for a long time, my question is, why? Where are those folks going to go? They just going to be shipped upstate or something? I mean jails actually do serve a necessary purpose even in a perfectly just system. The idea is to have five (or more) smaller jails, at least one in each borough. A large part of the problem with Rokers comes from the sheer concentration of inmates.
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Apr 2, 2017 17:01
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I guess that makes more sense. Sorry, Upstate! The city has land. Next to the other costs involved, that's pretty marginal. A big part of the reason that there's so much wind in here sails right now is that Rikers is on the verge of a massive depopulation anyway. Remember, Rikers is a jail not a prison. Over 90% of the inmates are not convicts, but people awaiting trial. This means they can't be sent upstate (they need to be close to their attorneys and court dates). It also means that the various bail reforms and supervised release programs that are rapidly expanding (since most of the pop at Rikers is minor drug offenders who can't make bail and are the target of such programs) will thin out the population considerably. All told, I think they're expecting an eventual drop to fewer than 5,000 inmates. (Down from a peak of 15k). At that point, building some new facilities arguably makes more sense than a decaying, mostly empty penal island. quote:Do you think they'll sell Rikers Island cheaply to some real estate investor, who'll flip it around into a rich housing project/vacation spot? The current leading plan I've heard is to use Rikers to expand LaGuardia. Chevy Slyme has issued a correction as of 18:04 on Apr 2, 2017 |
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Apr 2, 2017 17:52
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Glad the IDC has found a spine on at least one actual democratic policy. Still real mad about how much policy is in the budget these days!
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Apr 2, 2017 22:14
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So it sounds like Cumo got his promised 'free tuition' in the budget but I can't find any description anywhere of how the mechanism will actually work, except that it seems to be structured as a grant to students tockver the cost (rather than just lowering the price tag) with an income threshold of 100k, to later be raised. But I can't find the rest of the strings if any. Curious if I can get any of that sweet sweet excelsior money to go back to school.
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Apr 8, 2017 21:32
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EugeneJ posted:Yeah if NY wants to fund me going back to get an MBA that's just peachy Nah it's definitely undergrad I know that much.
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Apr 8, 2017 23:38
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GalacticAcid posted:Is anyone ITT in favor of a constitutional convention? Nope. That  is more dangerous than any benefit it can provide.
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May 1, 2017 16:41
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etalian posted:I can't decide if Trenton or Albany is the bigger shithole of a state capital Do you mean the city or the governmental goings on? Because if you mean the former, Albany is less of a shithole by a mile. It's a pretty okay college town when you get down to it, while Trenton is just a post-industrial shithole. If you mean the latter, pretty sure the sheer number of convicts that have been booted out of our legislature in the past few years gives NY the current title, though it's far from safe, and Jersey had quite a championship run.
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May 3, 2017 00:11
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MizPiz posted:But who has more criminals that are still in the state legislator? Almost certainly New York. It's shockingly hard to remove a legislator from office!!!!!
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May 3, 2017 02:09
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Absurd Alhazred posted:As a city, I like living in Downtown Albany. It's fun to just walk around, weather permitting. Never been to Trenton, so I don't know. I gotta get back up there sometime soon. I kinda miss bombers of all things.
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May 3, 2017 02:54
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unbutthurtable posted:What exactly is the issue that is hoped to be brought up at the convention? That's the thing. The constitution has a trigger for an open ended convention in which any amendment can be fast tracked versus the usual process, which requires amendments to pass the legislature and then a statewide ballot referendum. It's a hell of a lot easier for folks with a lot of money to take over a convention than it is for them to win all of the poo poo they want at the ballot in November.
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May 4, 2017 21:27
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GalacticAcid posted:NKD's tenets are: Nearly everything on that list can be done with legislation without a con con.
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May 4, 2017 21:30
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:So if we can't trust the government (being against the con con) then how will anything ever get better? Because at the end of the day, a con con is going to be run by the same people that are running our state government right now, more or less, and subject to all of the same external pressures and incentives. Except unlike when the constitution is amended by those fuckers under normal circumstances, the poo poo they do won't have to come back to you for a vote to approve it. All of the things that groups like NKD seem to want to do via a convention can be done through ordinary legislation, and a lot of the Bad poo poo that Bad People With A Lot Of Money want to do can't be done without one, it seems like a fairly poor risk/reward trade. The main argument in favor basically seems to boil down to "we will get to elect convention representatives who are not incumbents and can therefore short circuit the legislature!!!" Well, guess who is going to have the resources to win those seats? Wanna short circuit the legislature? How about backing candidates to unseat the incumbents you so oppose instead. If you can't muster the resources to do that, what makes you think you'll win at a convention?
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May 5, 2017 01:58
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:lovely incumbents are WAY harder to unseat then getting progressive convention representatives elected. The money part is true, but that's not really a new problem, and it will exist regardless. Right now things are getting worse for most people in the state. Doing nothing will ensure that things will continue getting worse. Resources are finite. I have limited faith in their ability to make the latter successful given their poor work on the former. You can't unseat lovely incumbents when nobody is mounting serious challenges to them.
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May 5, 2017 02:55
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get that OUT of my face posted:when cuomo finds out who proposed cutting over $60 million from the MTA budget this year, he'll really have egg on his face! If he's president he won't be governor anymore. Checks out.
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May 19, 2017 23:33
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Also, the poll question is "run for president" not win. If he runs he's going to be spending 18 months in Iowa and New Hampshire and Wisconsin and Nevada and Ohio and all sorts of places that aren't New York even as he is still governor, and will be too busy to keep trying to poo poo on the mayor. (Regardless of what you think of Deblasio, Cuomos relentless urge to score points on the guy is bad for all of us.) I'm all in on the idea the more I think about it!
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May 20, 2017 01:57
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Privatizing mass transit infrastructure is always a wonderful idea!
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May 21, 2017 20:50
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Interestingly all state capitols.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Last time New York voted in a government attorney turned anti-corruption Governor, it didn't end so well. Bring back the steamroller.
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