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 Back in September India witnessed what was likely the largest general strike in human history. There's rumors floating around the internet of a general strike in the US to protest the present administration - February 17th is the most common date I've seen on the Tweet machine, but SEIU West is openly advocating a general strike for May Day - Facebook Event here.
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for people worried about losing their jobs, you may already qualify for sick leave that your employer hasn't told you about. This appears to be a little outdated but please see this map or do some googling about your local municipality https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/legal-and-compliance/state-and-local-updates/pages/paid-sick-leave-laws-by-state.aspx
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Feb 3, 2017 21:32
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I hope it's not May Day because I wanted to organize a big DSA barbecue that day 
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Feb 3, 2017 22:12
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unbutthurtable posted:I hope it's not May Day because I wanted to organize a big DSA barbecue that day sounds like a good thing for people to attend instead of...going to work
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Feb 3, 2017 22:13
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im definitely on strike on may day this year
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Feb 4, 2017 03:16
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Doesn't a General Strike have to last more than one day to be effective?GalacticAcid posted:sounds like a good thing for people to attend instead of...going to work 
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Feb 4, 2017 05:23
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i will bravely stay out of work on friday february 17th as i am not scheduled on fridays
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Feb 4, 2017 05:25
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I'm going to be a scab.
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Feb 4, 2017 13:13
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Harrower posted:I'm going to be a scab. I'm going to pick at the scabs
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Feb 4, 2017 23:43
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Dreddout posted:Doesn't a General Strike have to last more than one day to be effective? The facebook event is for three days and I've seen other organizers say that three days is pretty much the minimum if you want to have an actual economic impact although since its a friday who knows
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Feb 4, 2017 23:50
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General Strikes in the USA have a huge impact- Just go ahead and name the last one that happened, and how much you cared while it was going on.
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Feb 5, 2017 00:03
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what's your point
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Feb 5, 2017 00:09
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I'm unemployed thanks Obama
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Feb 5, 2017 00:24
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revdrkevind posted:General Strikes in the USA have a huge impact- general strikes used to be a big deal back when they lasted months rather than hours, and were able to shut down entire industries because they were coordinated by powerful unions in heavily unionized industries
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Feb 5, 2017 02:47
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I'm thinking this may end of more of a colonel strike, but hoping for the best
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Feb 5, 2017 03:26
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Al! posted:for people worried about losing their jobs, you may already qualify for sick leave that your employer hasn't told you about. This appears to be a little outdated but please see this map or do some googling about your local municipality  before legalizing marijuana for recreational use (  btw in case u didnt kno) the mandate for paid medical leave for all F/T employees was the best thing thats happened politically in this state in years (since we passed our own health insurance reform, first in the nation to do so  )what was i talkin about again? oh yes, if u get entitled to these such benefits u are a fool not to use them 100% each and every year (it's like double vacation time that way) - as the law prohibits any kind of disciplinary action due to medical absense   
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Feb 5, 2017 16:14
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revdrkevind posted:General Strikes in the USA have a huge impact- if we don't know when the last one happened why would we know how much we cared
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Feb 6, 2017 15:20
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Chokes McGee posted:if we don't know when the last one happened why would we know how much we cared Correct! The answer is nobody remembers, because nobody cares. Don't have a general strike, unless you like pointless gestures. It was Occupy Oakland in 2011. They shut down the port at Oakland, and the entire town, for a day. This was a big goddamn deal, and they probably could have gone longer, but absolutely nobody gave a poo poo. The More You Know.
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Feb 6, 2017 16:55
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yeah i am sure it would go over well if hospitals shut down
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Feb 6, 2017 17:09
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reagan posted:yeah i am sure it would go over well if hospitals shut down what's the worst that can happen it's not like the police would use excessive and unnecessary violhahahahahahaha nope can't do it
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Feb 6, 2017 17:18
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revdrkevind posted:Correct! The answer is nobody remembers, because nobody cares. Don't have a general strike, unless you like pointless gestures. this reflects more on the fact that nobody cares about oakland
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Feb 6, 2017 18:02
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I've been on strike since '06 get on my level, hillaryposters.
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Feb 6, 2017 18:04
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Peanut President posted:I've been on strike since 1776 get on my, level royalists. 
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Feb 6, 2017 18:23
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revdrkevind posted:Correct! The answer is nobody remembers, because nobody cares. Don't have a general strike, unless you like pointless gestures. a good general strike needs to shut down every port, not just one port. or at least every port on that coast. and ideally they would do it for weeks, not hours it's trivial to reroute traffic from a single port, especially when it's just a short-term shutdown that ends when everyone gets hungry and goes home to their mothers' basements also, the Occupy Oakland march was neither "general" nor a "strike". it was just protesters blocking the roads in and out of the port so traffic couldn't enter or leave. and it didn't last "an entire day" either - it started in the evening and lasted a few hours, with the main objective of disrupting the shift change and preventing evening-shift workers from entering the reason nobody gave a poo poo about the Occupy Oakland "strike" is because it wasn't a strike at all. the port workers didn't strike, and neither did any other industry's workers.
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Feb 6, 2017 18:38
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Feb 6, 2017 18:51
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Hell yeah!
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Feb 6, 2017 21:24
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It sounds like a bunch of professionals play-acting at labor militancy. Better get to work organizing working-class people and maybe we can have a real general strike in two or three years.
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Feb 6, 2017 21:31
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The clearest illustration of the fact that this "general strike" is a laughable charade put on by liberal opportunists who have never participated in any sort of labor action before is the fact that they've got Trump's tax returns on there as a demand but nothing about wages, working conditions, etc. The sentiment would be noble, if it weren't so obviously exploitative.
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Feb 6, 2017 21:56
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:The clearest illustration of the fact that this "general strike" is a laughable charade put on by liberal opportunists who have never participated in any sort of labor action before is the fact that they've got Trump's tax returns on there as a demand but nothing about wages, working conditions, etc. The sentiment would be noble, if it weren't so obviously exploitative. it's on a Friday you really stick to folks if you strike on a Tuesday or a Wednesday, those are the big shipping days 
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Feb 6, 2017 22:01
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Alex Gourevitch makes a number of the same points as DOCTOR ZIMBARDO does here (this was linked to in a brief Baffler write-up. Especially agree with this segment: quote:Or is the point just a generalized ‘No’? A massive expression of discontent? None of the significant costs of a general strike are worth it if it’s just a grand gesture of refusal.
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Feb 6, 2017 22:09
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btw has anyone attempted an effort thread about the state of the American labor movement? Threads come and go so fast on C-SPAM and I don't feel like looking back a few pages
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Feb 6, 2017 22:44
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GalacticAcid posted:btw has anyone attempted an effort thread about the state of the American labor movement? Threads come and go so fast on C-SPAM and I don't feel like looking back a few pages What's there to effort post about? Isn't it that the large union's members are mostly all pro-Trump now, and the leaders are staying quiet because they feel like they actually can't blame them?
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Feb 6, 2017 22:47
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Feb 6, 2017 22:54
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i mean poo poo the only reason Nevada stayed blue is the strength of the service industry unions there lol, basically only segments of the Trades and the cops + corrections officers swung to Trump there might have been a slight shift among the UAW due to TPP but i'm not certain of that - basically union membership is way down in Upper Midwest thanks to Rick Snyder and Scott Walker on top of the long term trends. regardless, major leadership of AFT, SEIU, AFL-CIO, Teamsters, UAW, etc area ll stridently anti-Trump
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Feb 6, 2017 23:00
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GalacticAcid posted:btw has anyone attempted an effort thread about the state of the American labor movement? Threads come and go so fast on C-SPAM and I don't feel like looking back a few pages we dont need to because  already exists
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Feb 6, 2017 23:16
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GalacticAcid posted:i mean poo poo the only reason Nevada stayed blue is the strength of the service industry unions there lol, basically only segments of the Trades and the cops + corrections officers swung to Trump Nah, the Mahoning Valley/Youngstown went red at the Presidential level for the first time since '72 - and we killed SB5 (Kasich's version of the Wisconsin bill). There was a "slight" shift due to TPP/NAFTA in the same way that the Clinton campaign was "slightly" inept...
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Feb 6, 2017 23:22
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breaklaw posted:What's there to effort post about? Isn't it that the large union's members are mostly all pro-Trump now, and the leaders are staying quiet because they feel like they actually can't blame them? This is not really true. Some unions - especially those that represent government employees involved in law enforcement -- endorsed Trump in a reflection of their membership. Other unions - like certain trades and maybe the Teamsters -- have also seen many of their (white) members going over to Trump. Some unions - perhaps most notably the NYC taxi union - have taken more militant steps against specific things of Trump's agenda. But the biggest labor federations all remain very much opposed to Trump since they've all done a lot to diversify their membership and economic composition over the last 20 years. The state of unions in the USA right now is abysmal and getting weaker. The national union offices are on the verge of cutting their spending by about one-third, reflecting their increasingly dire financial position. At some point in the next two years the Republican congress is likely to attempt national right-to-work legislation, which combined with the continued erosion of membership, will put unions on the weakest footing they've been since the turn of the twentieth century.
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Feb 6, 2017 23:40
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:This is not really true. Some unions - especially those that represent government employees involved in law enforcement -- endorsed Trump in a reflection of their membership. Other unions - like certain trades and maybe the Teamsters -- have also seen many of their (white) members going over to Trump. Some unions - perhaps most notably the NYC taxi union - have taken more militant steps against specific things of Trump's agenda. But the biggest labor federations all remain very much opposed to Trump since they've all done a lot to diversify their membership and economic composition over the last 20 years. https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/785?r=9 Red Dad Redemption has issued a correction as of 23:52 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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Feb 6, 2017 23:44
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I bet the strike is so successful they close the banks on Monday.
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