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What was the lowest point of the Simpson
Homer Votes
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ProfessorMurder
Aug 27, 2003

I can wet the bed in the shape of Abraham Lincoln

All of Lisa's preachy bullshit made me stop watching.

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That Robot
Sep 16, 2004

ask me anything about robots

Buglord

the muscle marge do and the tennis ep

Mugsbaloney
Jul 11, 2012

We prefer your extinction to the loss of our job



I think I'm going to be sick; I knew it was bad since s10 or whatever but they're raping the bullet riddled horse carcass at this point

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU JOE BIDEN


I was going to say "that episode where Homer got raped" but that has actually happened in more than one episode.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

I'm not watching any of those goddamned clips and you can't make me

Dial-a-Dog
May 21, 2001

by Fluffdaddy


Helsing posted:

I was going to say "that episode where Homer got raped" but that has actually happened in more than one episode.

Has it really? Lol at "here they go, back to the 'Homer gets raped' well again " being a thing people can say about the Simpsons

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

If you see me posting tell me to log off and get back to work on my Teledji fanfiction!!!

#1 Teledji Adeledji fan - Monetarists Did Nothing Wrong


When did they repeat falling down the gorge but as a zany throwaway with none of the consequences that they originally made a big deal about?

About ten years before that.

Lumpy the Cook
Feb 4, 2011


Whenever someone talks about The Simpsons not getting good until season 3/4 I remind them of Bart the Daredevil.

WatermelonGun
May 7, 2009



I'm a weirdo who legit likes the monstrous first season of this show.

Lumpy the Cook
Feb 4, 2011


The first season wasn't too bad, just really mundane. The people writing it were just making a very straightforward family sitcom and hadn't yet realized that having it be animated basically gave them free reign to do whatever they want.

Duke Silver
Nov 6, 2011

Saxiest Man Alive


Came in to vote for Armin Tamzarian, but all of those videos make that look like a classic episode.

This was like catching up with a high school friend, only to find out that he's strung up on heroin now. So thanks for putting all of those videos into one terrible experience, I guess.

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017




Lumpy the Cook posted:

Whenever someone talks about The Simpsons not getting good until season 3/4 I remind them of Bart the Daredevil.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013

HAIL SATAN



Lowest point was finding out how much of the voice cast is infected with Scientology.

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!

Soiled Meat

Season 12 is when I stopped giving a gently caress about The Simpsons because some truly wretched episodes were happening. Like the panda rape episode that ended with Mr Burns tossing fish guts onto a parade crowd.

I just really don't care anymore; the show is going to make it to Season 30 and once a voice actor dies or finally quits for reals this time Fox will end it.

Mr.Tophat
Apr 7, 2007

You clearly don't understand joke development

The one where they hosed with Skinner's backstory.

And yes, I am one of those people who refuses to watch past a certain season.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




it didn't get bad as early as nerds say but man when it got bad it fell off a loving cliff.

forward pass posted:

The season after the Who Shot Mr. Burns? cliffhanger was when I tuned out.

see like this. that's only the eighth season lmao.

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Feb 4, 2017

forward pass
Dec 9, 2005

Y'all get back now.

The season after the Who Shot Mr. Burns? cliffhanger was when I tuned out. Every episode seemed to revolve around an unfunny celebrity guest and I just didn't care anymore. Phil Hartman dying didn't help, either.

That Robot
Sep 16, 2004

ask me anything about robots

Buglord

Justin Godscock posted:

I just really don't care anymore; the show is going to make it to Season 30 and once a voice actor dies or finally quits for reals this time Fox will end it.

considering that one of the times the voice actors tried to strike for a better contract fox openly cast for sound-alikes, I don't think just one death or even all of them decades from now would stop it

Dogmeat
Jun 20, 2003


Woof!



forward pass posted:

The season after the Who Shot Mr. Burns? cliffhanger was when I tuned out. Every episode seemed to revolve around an unfunny celebrity guest and I just didn't care anymore. Phil Hartman dying didn't help, either.

This. Armin Tamzarian and any Lisa episodes are bad, sure. But celebrity guests appearing as themselves are what turned the Simpsons into irredeemable garbage. Mel Gibson was the first I can remember.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




the mel gibson episode was very funny tho.

Sir Simon Milligan
Mar 27, 2003

Yes, I have walked along the path of evil many times, it's a twisting curving path, that actually leads to a charming block garden, but beyond that evil!



Why did Mr Smith kill everybody. Mel Gibson being himself was perfect in that episode.

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


Nonviolent J posted:

I was gonna post and say wow noone mentioned principal and the pauper but ding ding there it is

It isnt even a bad episode and if it actually annoyed you as a kid then youre a freak

Principal and the Pauper is a good piss take on long running sitcoms pulling stuff out of their asses in later seasons, but it does mark the point where Simpsons stopped being creative and began regressing.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




p. nice Wolf Parade ref posted:

Why did Mr Smith kill everybody.

lol that's one of the all time great quotes.

Wizard Master
Mar 25, 2008


The people who mentioned the Homer and Marge S&M episode missed the most important detail: Homer accidentally sits on a dildo and has to be rushed to the hospital

quote:

Homer goes to the local sex shop where he purchases an array of different sex devices. When he shows Marge all that he has bought she is confused and unimpressed. Homer sits down on one of the machines by mistake and is injured by it. He is taken to the hospital and while he is being treated they reconcile.

Dogmeat
Jun 20, 2003


Woof!



Groovelord Neato posted:

the mel gibson episode was very funny tho.

Compared to the Lady Gaga one I guess. There were probably a few decent writers still on staff, the Mel Gibson episode just always stood out to me as the glaring example of when the focus of the show shifted.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005


Fun Shoe

I stopped watching the simpsons so long ago that I could have raised a child from birth to adulthood in that time period.

Minimalist Program
Aug 13, 2010



These are all terrible

Minimalist Program
Aug 13, 2010


I just watched that Homer Votes clip after not having watched simpsons since like 2009 and jesus christ is that a real clip that they actually aired?

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




Dogmeat posted:

Compared to the Lady Gaga one I guess. There were probably a few decent writers still on staff, the Mel Gibson episode just always stood out to me as the glaring example of when the focus of the show shifted.

nah it's very funny. not just in comparison to gaga.

Dogmeat
Jun 20, 2003


Woof!



Groovelord Neato posted:

nah it's very funny. not just in comparison to gaga.

I'm not just comparing it to gaga, I'm also comparing it to the episode with Hank Scorpio. And Mel Gibson is no Hank Scorpio.

I might be extra hard on it, but I distinctly remember feeling after I watched it that the family had changed from the Simpsons into The Simpsonsô

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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armin tamzarian had "up yours children" in it

sweet geek swag
Mar 29, 2006

Adjust lasers to FUN!





The principal and the pauper isn't bad, much like Homer's enemy is a pretty good ep as well, but neither episode tries to actually wrap up in a satisfactory way, and they are early examples of the laziness that would soon become the norm for the Simpsons. Pauper is especially bad because the premise is so flat out dumb, but it still has a bunch of great jokes and one-liners so it doesn't feel like the bottom has fallen out yet.

Lumpy the Cook
Feb 4, 2011



I saw this for the first time around '99 or so. I think I was 9 and that was the hardest I'd ever laughed up until that point

Pakistani Brad Pitt
Nov 28, 2004

Not as taciturn, but still terribly powerful...



There have been some good celebrity cameos on the Simpsons, Aerosmith in the Flaming Moe's episode comes to mind.

I haven't watched more than a random episode here or there since 1999-2000ish, so pulling from that era only: Maybe the Twin Towers/NYC one? I remember that being pretty flat. Or the 'chew through the ball sack' one where they were trying to be edgy? That 3D gimmick episode? Though probably not the worst on account of Erotic Cakes

darth_pizza posted:

Simpsons Sing The Blues / Do The Bartman

ugh.


Yeah I had this on cassette right when it came out and I was the right age. Pretty much the whole album is cringeworthy but 3rd grade me thought it was cool.

Lumpy the Cook
Feb 4, 2011


Dogmeat posted:

This. Armin Tamzarian and any Lisa episodes are bad, sure. But celebrity guests appearing as themselves are what turned the Simpsons into irredeemable garbage. Mel Gibson was the first I can remember.

I think it started with that episode with Alec Baldwin and Ron Howard. They had celebrities playing themselves up until that point- James Woods, Aerosmith etc- but they were mostly relegated to C plots or quick cameos. That was the first time an episode actually focused on celebrities (unless you count the "Michael Jackson" episode, which is pretty dubious. I don't think he even got credited)

Serak
Jun 18, 2000

Approaching Midnight.

RE: Armin Tanzarian - I'm not sure I ever quite understood the out-and-out hate for that episode until I read this summary, which sorta spells out the downfall of the Simpsons entirely:
http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/simpsons-classic-principal-and-pauper-221473

AV Club posted:

That, in the end, is the true betrayal of ďThe Principal And The Pauper.Ē Itís not that itís a terrible episode of The Simpsons, or that it forces you to have this element of the character in your mind every time another Principal Skinner storyline comes up. No, what damns this episode in the history of The Simpsons is that itís where it became clear for the first time that the people making the show didnít hold Springfield and its citizens in the same light as so many of its fans. The message sent was that preserving its carefully constructed universe was secondary to the goal of producing an episode, and this world could be taken apart and put it back together as necessary. And the act of disassembly and reassembly, performed with ever more frequency from season nine on, is what spelled the end of The Simpsons Golden Age.

Sir Simon Milligan
Mar 27, 2003

Yes, I have walked along the path of evil many times, it's a twisting curving path, that actually leads to a charming block garden, but beyond that evil!



I think Jackson and Hoffman didn't want to be credited early on and after them they made a rule you had to be credited or something like that. Early cameos were great cause they had goofy ones, like Ernest Borgnine, or Adam West talking about the good ol days then the camera goes Dutch angle and he starts doing the Batusi.

Relin
Oct 6, 2002

You have been a most worthy adversary, but in every game, there are winners and there are losers. And as you know, in this game, losers get robotizicized!

i dont know the actual lowest point because i stopped watching it a long, long time ago.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!


It's simple; when the show started, people were writing original comedy and a parody of the American family that was actually really pushing the envelope at the time. Bart being a bad boy wasn't just some tongue-in-cheek thing, he was seen as a seriously horrible role model and people tried to get the show banned. Around 6-10 years later, new writers joined the team that literally grew up watching the show. They weren't writing original jokes any more, they were writing what they thought Simpsons jokes were.

It's the same thing as copying the voice of a cartoon character - you don't try to copy the voice directly. You find out what the original voice actor was imitating, then you also imitate that same thing.

Also, the real heart of the show is 100% Swartzwelder

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raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless


I'm gonna say the math episode with Fermat's last equation floating around over the YZ plane just to piss off the dorks and the nerds!!

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