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weak wrists big dick
Dec 18, 2012

good job. you are getting legitametly upset because I won't confrom to your secret internet cliques gross social standards. Sorry I don't like anime. Sorry I don't like being gross on the internet. Sorry that you are getting caremad.


your stupid shit internet argument is also only half true once I get probated, so checkmate anyways but nice try.

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Whatever happened to cheat codes? I remember flipping to the back of the Game Informer every month in case I (usually to my surprise) had a game listed.
However, it seems that after the seventh generation of consoles came out, everyone just stopped caring about them.
Games like Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas had replay ability mainly because of its cheats. Others allowed the game to become a sandbox game when it otherwise wasn't, or just helped you dick around.

What did them in?
Is it a shift in focus to online multiplayer, where fairness is supposedly king? Or was it something else?

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CubeTheory
Mar 26, 2010

Cube Reversal
DLC happened. Why put in cheat codes when they can sell you a coin doubler or an outfit that makes you invulnerable.

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

Also achievements, since you can't fairly gather all 1000 pig butts scattered throughout the city if you have a code enabling you to fly, or something

Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


DLC is big, but I think Achievements/Trophies is an even bigger offender.

Rare, valuable, bragging points-worthy achievements/trophies can't coexist with cheat codes that would make them trivial to obtain. Gamers loved the points/reward system though, so cheat codes were phased out. In the beginning there were some games that still had cheat codes, but playing with them on disabled the ability to earn achievements/trophies, so as far as I know almost nobody bothered with them. Eventually that, on top of DLC, made it all but pointless to continue including them. That's how I see it, anyway.

EDIT: Yeah, that.

Marogareh
Feb 23, 2011
drat shame that they're dead because I remember having tons of fun with flying cars in GTA.

The Missing Link
Aug 13, 2008

Should do fine against cats.
cheat codes? You mean console commands?

The ~ is your key to an express lane full of fun and fuckery. Killall :getin:

Vakal
May 11, 2008
Also, cheat codes were a big thing back in the era of video game magazines.

Magazines could pay for the rights to be the first ones to publish the codes which would draw in readers.


Once the internet and gamefaqs came around, that practice died off quickly along with the magazines.

Fanatic
Mar 9, 2006

:eyepop:
I don't think Achievements are necessarily to blame, when they can just be disabled while cheats/mods are active. e.g. Skyrim HD on XB1/PS4 would disable achievements/trophies whenever you wanted to play with mods on, same as Perfect Dark with cheats on.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Most recent thing I can think of with a legit cheat code was XCOM.

GirlBones
Jun 10, 2007
I am not very good at the internet
porntipsguzzardo

callcousinvinny

that's all i got.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


itisagooddaytodie

Antifa Spacemarine
Jan 11, 2011

Tzeentch can suck it.
coopa22cool

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Good hunter, free us from this waking nightmare

Vice of all places had an interesting article about this recently:

https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/how-cheat-codes-vanished-from-video-games

Didn't know the Game Genie folks used wave-signs and poo poo to build codes.

Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


Fanatic posted:

I don't think Achievements are necessarily to blame, when they can just be disabled while cheats/mods are active. e.g. Skyrim HD on XB1/PS4 would disable achievements/trophies whenever you wanted to play with mods on, same as Perfect Dark with cheats on.

Right, some games got around including codes by disabling achievements, but the draw of achievements was greater than the draw of cheat codes which I think contributed to their disappearance. Even in games I didn't give a poo poo about achievement hunting on I wouldn't activate them and deprive myself of the gratification of those little pop-ups. I am part of the problem.

weak wrists big dick
Dec 18, 2012

good job. you are getting legitametly upset because I won't confrom to your secret internet cliques gross social standards. Sorry I don't like anime. Sorry I don't like being gross on the internet. Sorry that you are getting caremad.


your stupid shit internet argument is also only half true once I get probated, so checkmate anyways but nice try.

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Capn Beeb posted:

Vice of all places had an interesting article about this recently:

https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/how-cheat-codes-vanished-from-video-games

Didn't know the Game Genie folks used wave-signs and poo poo to build codes.

I just finished this article, it is definitely worth a click and read, thanks for posting it

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


I can't think of a game I've played recently where I wanted cheats and it didn't have them. Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Skyrim, and Sims 3 aren't super recent games, but they're not that old. Do Mankind Divided and Sims 4 still have console cheats?

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Tiggum posted:

I can't think of a game I've played recently where I wanted cheats and it didn't have them. Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Skyrim, and Sims 3 aren't super recent games, but they're not that old. Do Mankind Divided and Sims 4 still have console cheats?

DE:HR and Skyrim do not have cheats on console.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


LORD OF BOOTY posted:

DE:HR and Skyrim do not have cheats on console.

OK, I was mis-remembering DE:HR - it was a mod - but Skyrim definitely has console commands.

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich
IBETYOUCANTPRINTCUNT

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect
You don't need codes when the lowest difficulty is so easy.

Konami code was the only hope we had to beat contra in the 4 day rental period.

Slayerjerman
Nov 27, 2005

by sebmojo
Are we talking about memory injection to change values (ala Game Genie) that can be done to any game?

or console commands/debugging features built in specific to certain game?

or something more like save game editing?

Or official, dev-supported cheats meant for end users?

On PC, you can hex edit to memory inject with like CheatEngine, or outright mod or use console commands. So cheat codes or secret cheats usually are moot thus why bother to dev/support something that will break the game.

Back in the day on consoles most had cheats merely for debugging during QA and often those became exposed to the end user unintentionally. Some games did launch with unlockable cheat menus for fun, I believe those are the kind you are referring to. Considering most games these days are debugged on or with PC or similar, the need for debug commands or cheat menus on console are irrelevant.

In other cases, supporting cheats costs shitloads of dev and QA, to much to warrant just 'leaving them accessible'...

These days cheaters use more complicated hacks like bots and the like that more or less play the game for them

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!
The biggest thing that killed cheat codes was widespread ability to save the game, which is a de-facto level select cheat.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax
Play on PC. Between mods, Cheat Engine, and trainers you can cheat whether the devs want you to or not.

Kly
Aug 8, 2003

The lego games have codes you can input to unlock characters and modifiers early

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Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


One thing about "just for fun" cheats like big head mode or whatever, they might have stopped making those cheats because they realised that if you're going to include that it's better to just make it a regular option so that people don't miss it. Instead of a small number of people getting a little bit extra fun from knowing about a "secret" thing, more people get to enjoy it.

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